djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
4 9/4/2013 7:23:31 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
I've paid zero attention to this whole ordeal (I blame Jon Stewart for taking a break from the Daily Show)
So what's their deal? They doing some ethnic cleansing or collecting nukes or is their current dictator not as good as the one we want to rule them?
Give me the cliff notes of this nonsense
[Edited on September 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM. Reason : /] 9/5/2013 8:59:20 PM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
someone who relies on the comedy channel for their world view isn't informed
please donate 9/5/2013 10:36:07 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42550 Posts user info edit post |
They are doing ethnic washing They are collecting nukular material And their current dictator is a puppet of Russia
So yeah, all of it.
9/5/2013 11:41:35 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
So now Obama says we don't needing authorization because they're twiddling their thumbs. Are we fucking ourselves over hEre? Wtf 9/6/2013 10:25:18 AM |
Elwood All American 4088 Posts user info edit post |
how about we sit this out ok. or are we trying to hit for the cycle in bombing middle eastern countries? 9/6/2013 10:39:54 AM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
I guess looking for an excuse to bomb Iran? I am not jealous of the president right now. He's getting republicans and democrats to hate him. 9/6/2013 12:08:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148589 Posts user info edit post |
Obama gon' bomb Surrria 9/10/2013 9:08:03 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35776 Posts user info edit post |
UN
SHAKEABLE
SHUPPORT 9/10/2013 9:12:05 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a pacifist, but I say bomb that motherfucker 9/10/2013 9:12:22 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm a pacifist, but I say bomb that motherfucker" |
what9/10/2013 9:13:52 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148589 Posts user info edit post |
lol at UN inspectors finding anything 9/10/2013 9:14:40 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
there's no other choice 9/10/2013 9:14:40 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
fucksyria.com 9/10/2013 9:15:55 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89807 Posts user info edit post |
shit's syrious,, my bros. 9/10/2013 9:19:11 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42550 Posts user info edit post |
9/13/2013 8:00:47 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89807 Posts user info edit post |
Those alleged torture photos showing the Syrian regimes horrendous acts are pretty brutal, G 1/20/2014 2:38:08 PM |
Bullet All American 28476 Posts user info edit post |
Pro-Assad forces kill 175 rebels in ambush: Syrian state media
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/26/us-syria-crisis-ambush-idUSBREA1P0TP20140226
Quote : | "Forces loyal to Syria's president killed at least 175 Islamist rebel fighters, most of them foreigners, in an ambush in insurgent-held eastern outskirts of Damascus, state media said on Wednesday.
The attack was led by the Lebanese Shi'ite militant group Hezbollah, which has joined the government in a increasingly sectarian conflict that is pulling in fighters from across the region and destabilizing Syria's neighbors, said activists." |
2/26/2014 3:49:52 PM |
Bullet All American 28476 Posts user info edit post |
In keeping with transferring chit-chat to soap box, i figured i'd post this here and bump this thread.
OEP posted this in the Soap Box, a very informative comic on the origins of the Syrian Civil War
http://yearsoflivingdangerously.tumblr.com/post/86898140738/this-comic-was-produced-in-partnership-by-years-of 9/11/2015 11:41:40 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
holy shit, OEP posted something worthwhile 9/11/2015 1:32:51 PM |
Bullet All American 28476 Posts user info edit post |
Russia's setting up a base there, B.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/15/middleeast/syria-russia-military-buildup/index.html 9/15/2015 3:08:18 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42550 Posts user info edit post |
Russia launches airstrikes using its fighter jets in Syria
Ends up killing 34 civilians 9/30/2015 5:54:16 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
And bombing a majority of other rebel groups that are fighting ISIS. 10/1/2015 7:51:07 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28071 Posts user info edit post |
so basically we're fighting a war with russia in syria, right? only it's just syrians dying. 10/1/2015 9:52:42 AM |
Bullet All American 28476 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/russia-pouring-gasoline-on-the-fire-in-syria-as-airstrikes-hit-cia-backed-rebels-us-officials-2015-10-01 10/1/2015 11:20:33 AM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so basically we're fighting a [proxy] war with russia in syria" |
but i don't know how much we're helped the rebels, and if we still are/will continue to do so.10/1/2015 11:30:44 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89807 Posts user info edit post |
I dont think Russia's mitary is capable of having the impact on ISIS they think they will.
I also dont think, politically, the US can afford to be upstaged by Putin in this arena. They simply will not let that happen. They also will not allow Putin to prop up Assad when this is all said and done.
I think Russia will fail to dislodge ISIS without putting boots on the ground, and they will be unwilling to do so while fighting a shadow battle in the Ukraine. Meanwhile, after the 2016 election is over, the US might go into Syria with more support with the understanding that Assad cannot remain. 10/1/2015 11:48:01 AM |
Bullet All American 28476 Posts user info edit post |
Another narrative of how this whole thing got started
Quote : | "It all starts with graffiti" |
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/middleeast/syria-war-how-we-got-here/10/9/2015 1:15:13 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89807 Posts user info edit post |
So has the proxy war officially begun, my Gs?
Is it generally accepted that Russia is propping up Assad, and targeting Rebels as well as ISIL?
WWIII, my bros. WWIII 10/13/2015 12:28:59 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89807 Posts user info edit post |
WW3 11/13/2015 11:22:51 PM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone think there is a chance that the world (including the west, middle east, Russia) will unite to take on isis?
There would have to be some plan for Syria after isis is gone to fill that vacuum. That is when the real proxy war will begin. 11/14/2015 9:20:50 AM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
maybe theyll give it to all of the displaced muslims of the world 11/14/2015 9:47:42 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28071 Posts user info edit post |
couldn't they just give syria to the jews? 11/14/2015 11:12:49 AM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
seems to always work out well 11/14/2015 11:24:09 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
isis won't go away until the politics of the region are solved. you'll prolly just have to give "isis" a sunni state between iraq and syria. 11/14/2015 1:41:44 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
The region won't be solved until there's a side that finances the fighting or provides the troops that are expended and can't or won't fight no more and do unconditional surrender.
So get back to us in 5 years.
Meanwhile, neutrals have to put up with the bullshit. Be they in Damascus or Paris.
[Edited on November 14, 2015 at 2:24 PM. Reason : /] 11/14/2015 2:23:12 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
So does ISIS have anYou're set on any allies that our actual countries? 11/14/2015 2:53:25 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
huh? 11/14/2015 3:13:49 PM |
Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
11/14/2015 3:24:44 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23045 Posts user info edit post |
Even if we were somehow able to kill every single member of ISIS, without exacting a huge number of civilian casualties as they use occupied populations as human shields, there would just be another group pop up in a few years doing the same thing.
If countries were to go to actual war to try an end ISIS, an agreement will have to be made about much collateral damage can and will be done. 11/14/2015 3:32:56 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
our best bet would be to try to stop their money, but that would piss off our "allies" who fund them 11/14/2015 3:35:32 PM |
moron All American 34198 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that's the big problem... DoD has released at least 1 study, possibly more, that conventional military action draws more people into the fight, not less-- it creates more terrorism because the Internet allows Isis to package the graphic images to forment anti-Western rage.
In my fantasy world, we can wash our hands of any involvement, tell the regional players (Iran, Iraq, Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Europe, even Russia) it's their problem to solve... we forfeit our political and economic interests in the region and just be done with it. We've sunk up to $4 trillion dollars into this, that's $4 trillion that could have been used for addressing the housing crisis, or student loan debt crisis, healthcare reform, research, could have used towards addressing inequality, or growing child poverty, could have gone to building nuclear power plants or solar arrays, could have been used towards a Mars mission, now lost because of a completely optional, preemptive war that is the direct predecessor to the creation of Isis. 11/14/2015 5:59:38 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
It also ruined a bunch of people's lives. 11/14/2015 6:23:41 PM |
budlight2256 º_0 598 Posts user info edit post |
So, much shit is going on ... 11/14/2015 6:46:16 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89807 Posts user info edit post |
^ exactly, my G. So much going on, in that entire region. And other nations are getting pulled in.
Start of WW3 11/14/2015 7:08:19 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42550 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "our best bet would be to try to stop their money, but that would piss off our "allies" who fund them" |
Names?11/14/2015 9:19:32 PM |
Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
neutron bombs. 11/14/2015 9:31:01 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
turkey saudi arabia 11/14/2015 9:37:20 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148589 Posts user info edit post |
Crazy how backwards, uncivilized and uneducated societies often are in that part of the world. How can we hand-hold them into the 20th century so we can eventually lead them into the present? 11/14/2015 9:38:31 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
could you confirm thats sarcasm. i've had a few drinks already 11/14/2015 9:40:17 PM |