Seeing some legit papers (like the telegraph) throwing some Spurs set to surpass Arsenal articles out there again with the stadium news. Their stadium looks pretty nice and I agree with Ribs about the NFL deal being fantastic. But we've all seen this before. My personal favorite:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/football-opinion/tottenham-column-spurs-now-bigger-3308711

7/9/2015 11:05:48 AM

Spurs fans don't think that. Gotta finish above them at least a couple times before anybody can even mention it.

[Edited on July 9, 2015 at 11:15 AM. Reason : maybe the delusional ones but that's it]

7/9/2015 11:14:37 AM

As long as Wenger is at Arsenal spurs will always be in their shadow.

7/9/2015 11:21:38 AM

^^ it's clickbait of course. Standard of sports journalism over there is shockingly low.

7/9/2015 11:29:44 AM

Good on Michael Owen and RvP to leave their dead end clubs and earn titles with United.

7/9/2015 11:54:01 AM

Are you trolling Newcastle fans?

7/9/2015 12:33:46 PM

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"Thanks for number 20 RVP, he is a legend in my books. "

not mine. he hung around for like 3 seasons and got injured a lot, and never consistently approached his best days at Arsenal.

if he's a legend, what do you call Paul Scholes/David Beckham? super-legends? Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole have left far larger footprints at Man U, and they ain't legends.

7/9/2015 12:51:42 PM

not legend in the sense of a club legend. Legend in the sense that I really like him and wish him the best. Like one of the cool kids you knew in college and every time he/she was over it would be a great night/weekend.

Always loved him at Arsenal and thought as an out an out striker he was the best in the premier league. I still maintain had RVP and Eduardo stayed fit that year, Arsenal really would have won the title over United in 08 or 09. Forget what year now. Arsenal were in it all the way up till March/April and then Eduardo got that nasty injury and they collapsed without a striker.

PS: I def consider Yorke and Cole club legends (especially Cole, he had over 200 apps I believe). That 99 season is something else. Every match towards the end was a nail biter. Some insanely ridiculous come backs against the likes of Bayern, Arsenal, Juve (with Zidane & Nedved), and Barcelona.

[Edited on July 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on July 9, 2015 at 1:57 PM. Reason : a]

7/9/2015 1:53:24 PM

Quote :

"Are you trolling Newcastle fans?"

No, Real Madrid fans.

7/9/2015 2:00:06 PM

yeah the bit about Cole and Yorke was slightly questionable, I suppose. still, again, if we call them "legends," then what do we call Giggs/Scholes/Beckham? I just feel like certain strong words ("legend," "genius," etc.) get thrown around too often.

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" Like one of the cool kids you knew in college and every time he/she was over it would be a great night/weekend. "

okay I can kinda see "legend" being used in this sense. but I still think it's misleading to apply the word to RVP's career at Man U in any real sense.

Steven Gerrard is a legend at Liverpool. that's the proper use of the term.

7/9/2015 2:02:39 PM

And I am a legend of TWW Soccer Threads

7/9/2015 2:05:06 PM

From the last page

7/9/2015 2:10:06 PM

I mean if Cantona is a legend then Yorke and Cole most def. are.

Beckham, Scholes, Neville, Giggs, Best, Charlton, Law, Irwin, Robson, Ronaldo, Rooney, Keane, Pallister, Rio, Scholes, and Sparky are the definition of club legends but I don't think that takes away from Cole, Sheringham, Solsjkaer, Vidic, Yorke, Cantona, Bruce, Ruud and Stam in anyway.

Shit I would put Sparky at the lowest of lows on the club legend list because of how much of a twat he is as a manager.

Ruud is by far my personal favorite though. Without Ruud I probably wouldn't have been a United fan.

[Edited on July 9, 2015 at 2:14 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on July 9, 2015 at 2:15 PM. Reason : a]

7/9/2015 2:13:57 PM

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"I mean if Cantona is a legend then Yorke and Cole most def. are. "

[NO]

7/9/2015 2:45:23 PM

Cantona is a PL legend

7/9/2015 3:01:48 PM

of course Cantona is a legend. But I think it's absurd to argue that Yorke and Cole are somehow in his class, and therefore also legends.

7/9/2015 3:11:35 PM

lol. Cole has had more appearances and goals to his name. In fact Cole was the reason United won a title when Cantona got hurt at the back end of the season. Cantona gets the spoils because he was a charasmatic character and could turn the game on its head. Cole and Yorke formed one of the most deadliest partnerships in Europe and England and have a treble to show for it. I would say if anyone considers Cantona a legend then Cole and Yorke most def have to be in that list.

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[Edited on July 10, 2015 at 9:40 AM. Reason : .]

7/10/2015 9:38:22 AM

I'd say (Cole + Yorke) combined are legends.

7/10/2015 9:44:11 AM

I'm okay with listing "Cole and Yorke" among the legends, as long as they appear as a unit.

^^ But c'mon, wazza, there's no individual comparison between Cole and Cantona. Eric Cantona was the hub and catalyst of Manchester United's return to greatness. They hadn't won the league in 30 years, and then Cantona joins the team and they win the league 80% of the years when he's there. He was the captain, he always produced the goods when they were needed, and as you say, he could turn a game on its head.

I find the Cole/Sheringham feud really interesting. It must have been odd to form a profitable strike-partnership with somebody and still hate their guts.

7/10/2015 12:24:55 PM

I am just playing devils advocate. Enough of looking back at history though, that is for liverpool fans.

7/10/2015 1:59:06 PM

meh

even Sergio Ramos is too cool for you.

7/10/2015 2:07:10 PM

lol I would love Ramos, not going to happen though. LVG at the PC made it seem like James Wilson is going to play a big role next year. Really really hope we go in with Rooney, Wilson, and Januzaj at Striker. Also seems like LVG expects Depay to play there too. Wouldn't mind this at all.

Hope Wilson can take his chances next year.

7/10/2015 2:11:28 PM

lol I would love Ramos, not going to happen though. LVG at the PC made it seem like James Wilson is going to play a big role next year. Really really hope we go in with Rooney, Wilson, and Januzaj at Striker. Also seems like LVG expects Depay to play there too. Wouldn't mind this at all.

Hope Wilson can take his chances next year.

7/10/2015 2:12:36 PM

lol I would love Ramos, not going to happen though. LVG at the PC made it seem like James Wilson is going to play a big role next year. Really really hope we go in with Rooney, Wilson, and Januzaj at Striker. Also seems like LVG expects Depay to play there too. Wouldn't mind this at all.

Hope Wilson can take his chances next year.

7/10/2015 2:31:51 PM

Bastian motherfucking Schweinsteiger. Get fucked premeir league, man united may have a midfield again next year!

7/10/2015 5:28:32 PM

Declining from his peak but obviously really good for a year...

Still gonna throw around money like a drunken sailor for a striker too. Real, Barca and United.... and everyone else.

7/10/2015 8:14:59 PM

I don't understand why he would want to take that step down.

Bayern is definitely going to be right there for another Champion's League title and they've got a much better manager in Munich. I guess he just needed a change after all those years.

7/11/2015 9:10:23 AM

Rumors are he didn't get on with Pep. Also can't play at same time as Xabi Alonso, who Pep preferred. United is in CL and is one of few who can offer increased wages. It makes them better but he is pushing 31 and has already shown signs of decline. Interested to see how he fares in a more grueling league. He makes them much more dangerous in Europe though.

United fans, one in particular, are completely delusional if they don't think they are going to spunk an absolute shit ton on a striker. Can't play an unproven kid with what they have invested in.

With what they have spent the last two seasons and will continue to do this summer its gotta be title or sacking for LVG. No excuses now.

7/11/2015 10:10:58 AM

Bastian motherfucking Schweinsteiger!!!!!!

You know who else thought united and its fans were delusional? Alan Hensen and his famous you will win nothing with kids."

I hope to god we don't sign a striker. It's time for the academy grads to get a chance.

7/11/2015 10:15:56 AM

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"completely delusional"

^

7/11/2015 1:19:22 PM

^^ football hasn't changed at all since 1995. That's why teams like Blackburn can still win titles and compete with the super clubs.

7/11/2015 3:40:37 PM

Sterling to City. £44m up front and £5m in add ons.

7/12/2015 2:03:35 PM

Reports that Schneiderlin to United done as well. Thats what, £140m in the midfield last two summers?

£40m striker and £25m CB and they should compete for title next year..

[Edited on July 12, 2015 at 5:44 PM. Reason : X]

7/12/2015 5:43:29 PM

Scheinerdlin, Schweinsteiger, and Darmian = £51.4 million.

Sterling = £49 million.



Amazing weekend. Extremely happy with the people we have signed. Get us a CB like Otamendi and we are done. 4 signings and I believe United still have about £44 million to spend before evening out the amount of money Adidas will give them for the new kit deal this season. Lets get a center half Ed Woodward!

A complete midfield reshuffle:

-------------- Valdes --------------
Darmian - Rojo - Smalling - Shaw
----------- Schneiderlin -----------
----- Schweinsteiger - Herrera ----
-- Mata ------------------ Depay --
------------- Rooney --------------

Bench:
GK
Carrick
Di Maria/Januzaj/Young
Valencia/Blind
Jones
Fellaini
Wilson

Periera, McNair, Blackett, and Lingard to rotate.




[Edited on July 12, 2015 at 11:09 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on July 12, 2015 at 11:14 PM. Reason : Forgot the pivotal Ashley Young. Jesus United has some depth now]

7/12/2015 10:58:21 PM

* Fellaini as #9

7/13/2015 9:40:08 AM

Can't wait to see him in the black Adidas kit. Def. getting the basti jersey next season.

7/13/2015 11:03:59 AM

^Make sure to put some plastic wrap over your tv

7/13/2015 2:32:25 PM

Jelly Arse fan

7/13/2015 4:19:49 PM

Cavani? Kane? Who will United buy? They have £75m to spend so obviously a striker and if De Gea moves on mYbe Lloris?

7/13/2015 6:59:28 PM

Wazza is a clown most of the time, but these are some bitchy ass posts re: United's moves.

7/13/2015 9:07:39 PM

They have obviously made good signings and will compete for the trophy if the new players get on together. And have moved into the class of Bayern, Barca and Real in terms of financial clout. I'm not even mad since its self sustainable. They've earned it.

Still think it's funny that he can't admit that for some reason though.

7/13/2015 9:21:34 PM

You'd be surprised how many fanboys of those other three behemoths you mentioned are in a similar denial. It's not exclusive to United.

7/13/2015 9:28:58 PM

and if they post in this thread i'm sure they'll get made fun of

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"Can't wait to see him in the black Adidas kit."

i mean

[Edited on July 13, 2015 at 9:56 PM. Reason : a]

7/13/2015 9:55:26 PM

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"I'm not even mad since its self sustainable."

they'd better the hell start sustaining it pretty soon in some emphatic way, or I feel like it's going to start drying up

it just seems like you can only ride your previous reputation for so long.

also, I haven't looked at the numbers, but it's not clear to me that Man U have more financial clout than City or Chelsea, say. and they're certainly not in Madrid, Barca or Bayern's class in terms of ability/reputation these days.

7/13/2015 10:43:45 PM

Are you kidding me? Look at the revenue we generate? Even after paying for the debt those Glazers got in. Of course we are self sustainable. We were always a big spending club, even in the 80s. To augment our youth policy of course

[Edited on July 14, 2015 at 10:07 AM. Reason : ]

7/14/2015 10:02:44 AM

if you suck dick for a long period of time, you'll cease generating so much revenue

(here, "suck dick" means "fail to win the league" and "fail to perform well in the Champions League")

the bandwagon fans will begin to abandon you, and take their dollars elsewhere. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but if you begin to establish a consistent record of mediocrity, your finances will start to reflect that, methinks.

7/14/2015 6:33:12 PM

It takes A LOT of sucking. Liverpool still has higher commercial revenue than Arsenal still..

7/15/2015 9:12:12 PM

Di Marzio reporting Vidal to Bayern

Got to think Javi Martinez is available now

7/16/2015 7:10:13 AM

Superb player in a position of need for Arsenal to challenge Coquelin. Which means no chance in hell Arsenal are interested.

7/16/2015 10:14:17 AM

He's awesome when he's healthy for sure. But the problem is he's never healthy.

7/16/2015 11:10:03 AM