80% on free throws made a huge difference as well. That's not the usual NC State way. Beverly 7 for 9, Al Freeman 10 for 12.

11/23/2017 3:55:11 AM

This is a monster win. If AZ balls out this year, and we perform,it's bubble material. We came in with 0 expectations and created magic. Middle of the conference is a big win this year and tonight proved that we are capable of that. Legit mindblowing

11/23/2017 4:14:15 AM

We have some depth and the front court of Freeman/Abu/Yurt will play better under Keats offense.

It’s early but that was the most organized we’ve looked on both ends of the court in a long time. And I loved how we never had that 6-8 minute stretch where the offense went stale. We were able to execute and get good looks all game. Defense I thought played well most shots were contested and there was a lot of effort on that end.

Arizona will win a lot of games this year and we will lose a bunch but hopefully it’s a sign of Keats potential to actually coach. A win like that is huge for the buy-in factor too.

11/23/2017 7:44:37 AM

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"doesn’t mean that we won’t have a low chance of beating teams who are better"

Northern Iowa/SMU are better than us?

11/23/2017 10:23:05 AM

nobody said anything about Northern Iowa being better than us, and SMU has been better than us for a few seasons in a row

11/23/2017 10:36:41 AM

So how low would our chances be of beating this year's SMU team?

[Edited on November 23, 2017 at 11:19 AM. Reason : Ya know, if Northern Iowa didn't just beat them ]

11/23/2017 11:17:38 AM

Today is the real test: can Keatts keep his team focused on going for the throat after a huge Marquee win the day before

11/23/2017 11:20:35 AM

where the fuck is the game thread

We’re 3.5 point favorites

11/23/2017 11:26:56 AM

^^^ I mean, they’d be favored

[Edited on November 23, 2017 at 11:30 AM. Reason : .]

11/23/2017 11:27:17 AM

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"meaning that our chances to beat them wouldn’t be high "

That doesn't mean our chances would be low.

[Edited on November 23, 2017 at 11:30 AM. Reason : I'd like to think our chances would be decent, but clearly you think otherwise.]

11/23/2017 11:29:48 AM

I'm away for Thanksgiving I can't make the thread

11/23/2017 11:33:35 AM

it’d probably be somewhere around 65/35

[Edited on November 23, 2017 at 11:35 AM. Reason : if not closer to 70/30. don’t think you realized how good SMU is/has been recently when you scoffed]

11/23/2017 11:34:39 AM

I dunno man, 35% isn't all that low.

[Edited on November 23, 2017 at 11:42 AM. Reason : 15% shy from being a tossup and we just beat a much more talented team]

11/23/2017 11:35:51 AM

christ you’re a pest

you’d also have to factor in the possibility of a letdown after a big win

it’s ok to admit that you knew absolutely nothing about SMU when you made that post

[Edited on November 23, 2017 at 11:46 AM. Reason : .]

11/23/2017 11:40:46 AM

Well there is that, but before we were speaking on the basis of them just being a better team than us.

To me, a low chance would be something in the neighborhood of like 10%, to me.

[Edited on November 23, 2017 at 11:47 AM. Reason : ^ and it's also ok for you to admit our chances to beat SMU would not be "low"]

11/23/2017 11:47:04 AM

yes, a let down against a better team, meaning the chances for a loss would be greater

anything outside of 55/45 is low, and believe it or not, you can even throw in a “very” before the low for certain mismatches

[Edited on November 23, 2017 at 11:52 AM. Reason : .]

11/23/2017 11:50:06 AM

Quote :

"anything outside of 55/45 is low"

lol if you say so pal

11/23/2017 12:01:05 PM

UNI lost to UNC to open the season, might be a good measure today of how well we'll stack up against our conference (except in that game the teams hadn't just played another the night before, so grain of salt)

11/23/2017 12:15:37 PM

no one knows how good we are with a sample size so small. we have all the pieces and a high ceiling. i dint think we are bad. bad teams dont even consistently beat cupcakes (wake).

based on what ive seen. i think we will be middle of road acc team (5th-8th) that can beat anyone. we have 8 acc level starters which equates to an amazing bench

11/23/2017 12:40:13 PM

i also think SMU was a bad match up for us beyond just the overall quality dimension

doesnt matter now

11/23/2017 12:46:48 PM

Since this is the de facto Battle for Atlantis thread, Tennessee has a huge chance to make a splash early playing #18 and #5 in back-to-back days. Looking pretty good so far today. Tomorrow we might be looking at a loser's bracket with a higher marquee matchup (Arizona/Purdue) than the winner's bracket.

Also, ESPN line has us as a 3.5 point underdog but the matchup predicter has our win probability at 70%. I'm very confused.

Also, that is a terrible logo for this tournament. A basketball on top of a trident would get punctured and deflate. It would make more sense if they were playing in Barbados, since the national flag does have a trident on it. Bahamas does not. I think they're trying to make the trident look like the ball is going into a net, but it's still dumb.

11/23/2017 1:11:53 PM

it’s a typo. we’re giving 3 1/2.

11/23/2017 1:14:08 PM

They did the same thing yesterday calling us 12.5 point favorites. But they have the right listing for UNC and Duke's games. Why do they seem to only get it wrong with us?

11/23/2017 1:19:51 PM

we almost covered 12.5 sobmaybe they are just hot line bling

11/23/2017 2:15:46 PM

Their mistake was dead on again

11/23/2017 8:22:17 PM

Wow!

I just watched the ESPN game recap and you would have thought Arizona was dominating us...clip after clip showed Ayton doing his magic (while every clip showed NC State getting and staying ahead)...it wasn't until the last two seconds of the montage that you realize NC State won.

Go ahead and pull the clip up and just listen to it.

Either bias or just bad reporting.

11/23/2017 10:29:54 PM

trier missed a ft lastnight and they said "a rare miss from this guy" and the graphic showed he was a 68% shooter. they were high on him all night

11/23/2017 11:27:07 PM

THE FIX WAS IN

here’s the clip that the insane person is complaining about:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=400986081

[Edited on November 24, 2017 at 1:48 AM. Reason : .]

11/24/2017 1:40:45 AM

Arizona lost to SMU

11/24/2017 9:34:02 AM

11/24/2017 10:20:33 AM

Arizona versus Purdue in the Battle 4 7th place game, as expected.

11/24/2017 10:36:07 AM

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"I don't see how you can say they are overrated. "

Quote :

"they look like a very very good team to me"

Tell us more

11/25/2017 5:56:21 PM

[Edited on November 25, 2017 at 5:59 PM. Reason : Wrong]

11/25/2017 5:59:03 PM

Wrong thread

[Edited on November 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2017 6:00:19 PM