natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
If we beat ECU will the hype meter go through the roof around here??? 5/28/2022 9:50:03 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Ehh. I think the hype meter is already fairly high. Beating a team that we’re double digits favorites against probably wouldn’t change a whole lot. If we win like 38-0 then that might change things. 5/28/2022 10:06:55 AM |
bellrabbit All American 2605 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think it's fucked up they're making us play UNC 3 separate times on the same day!! And with overlapping times?! are we supposed to play the 1pm with backups?? Typical ACC." |
LOL
[Edited on May 28, 2022 at 11:29 AM. Reason : .]5/28/2022 11:28:50 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Only took me 7518 days to have a successful joke on here 5/28/2022 2:54:50 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "* Can you fix Clemson's offense internally? * Can you fix Wake's D? (Or Cuse's O?) * Is this NC State's year? (History has a consistent answer for that.) * Who breaks through: Louisville or FSU? * Where does BC stand out?
2022 ACC ATLANTIC PREVIEW IS UP. https://t.co/P1gXqQ5Sfi" |
Save you a click, answer to 3rd question is "yes of course, you moron, don't ask stupid fucking questions"6/7/2022 1:28:00 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How does NC State live up to hype? Dave Doeren's Wolfpack have become a preseason darling. Mark Schlabach ranked them eighth in his updated Way-Too-Early top 25 (Clemson is 12th), and it's not hard to see why. They fielded a top-15 defense in 2021 -- even while it got hit hard by injury -- and incumbent quarterback Devin Leary threw for 3,433 yards and an eye-popping 35 touchdowns to five interceptions. There's turnover in the skill corps, but the defense both returns 13 of the 15 players with 250-plus snaps last year and brings back three potential starters from injury. NC State has somehow never finished in the AP top 10; it's quite conceivable that 2022 is the year.
If it's not the year, however, it probably will be the offense's fault. For all of Leary's hype, he still ranked only 30th in Total QBR -- good but not elite -- and the Wolfpack's nibbling offense ranked only 80th in passing success rate. The Pack found themselves in too many third-and-longs, and while they bailed themselves out with big plays and strong red zone execution, they still ranked only 39th in offensive SP+. The run game was inefficient with All-American tackle Ikem Ekwonu and backs Zonovan Knight and Ricky Person Jr., and all three of them are gone, as is the biggest receiving threat, Emeka Emezie. Leary still has receivers Thayer Thomas and Devin Carter at his disposal, but the Pack could again be one-dimensional, and only Carter has proven explosiveness.
The Pack's defense constantly pushed teams backward in 2021 and boasted some of the surest tackling in the country despite a season-long injury for star linebacker Payton Wilson. NC State forced opponents behind schedule, then dominated with consistent pressure (eighth in pressure rate) and an elite secondary that returns intact and returns Cecil Powell, a starting cornerback in 2020. This is a huge opportunity for State in 2022. Let's see if the offense can hold up its end of the bargain." |
6/7/2022 1:57:10 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
6/28/2022 11:36:57 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
I'm ok with all of this EXCEPT losing the Wake Forest game. Literally tied for 2nd-longest active streak in college football history, has survived 2 world wars, 2 global pandemics, and lord knows what else just for it to end to some dumb conference realignment hype with the hopes of getting a better team to the CFP. Yeah right. 6/28/2022 12:00:20 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. I don't give half a shit about playing Duke. I'm sure we've played some OOC teams more since ACC expansion than we've played Duke (4 times.) Would much, much, much prefer to play Wake. ACC killed the duke rivalry in 2004 and now they're trying to kill the longest played rivalry in children's history. 6/28/2022 12:11:30 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I like our pod fine. Fuck Wake is my opinion, honestly. 6/28/2022 12:15:37 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Sorry that i care about history.
And don't care about playing Duke. At all. 6/28/2022 12:36:43 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Apology accepted.
Not 6/28/2022 1:08:33 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
I would be madder if I was Wake. that pod suckssssss 6/28/2022 1:08:48 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Clemson must be PISSED. No divisions and STILL they have to play is every year??
Poor fellas 6/28/2022 1:50:04 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I realize this is a #selfown as a State fan. And also comes across as typical State fan conspiracy theorist. But UNC seems to have the easiest pod for sure. 6/28/2022 1:50:51 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Bw them and Pitt probably
Am I allowed to post this here? Next 4 years in this thread. Still play wake next 2 years.
[Edited on June 28, 2022 at 1:56 PM. Reason : E]6/28/2022 1:55:40 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Dumb 6/28/2022 2:21:50 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe we can schedule wake ooc so Justin's feelings don't get hurt 6/28/2022 2:50:10 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
NC giving $15 mil to the ACC
(not sure where else to post this) 6/28/2022 8:53:41 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I mean is Duke now our basketball rival instead of Wake? 6/28/2022 9:07:58 PM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
Not just Justin, I'm mad about this too. Most State fans I've seen online are ambivalent or happy, but personally, I've kind of accepted that an ACC team has a realistic shot to make the CFP maybe every 2-3 years, and NC State is just not gonna be nationally relevant for any extended period of time. Things may be different for this year, and who knows -- maybe we can turn that into something. But personally, I think most of the ACC right now is just fringe CFP talent at best. Given that, personally, I would rather enjoy what little history and tradition we do have rather than eschewing it for something that's a pipedream anyways. 6/29/2022 7:40:17 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
I suppose that ND just remains a "name brand" non-conference game that is legally required to play a certain amount of ACC games? 6/29/2022 8:06:45 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
For now, yes, but the current revision is only through 2026. So seems like that's the target date to get them by. Their deal to play 1 ACC team a year is through 2036 6/29/2022 8:51:29 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
There’s been an ACC team in every single CFP except for this past season. I don’t think there’s any real reason to believe that the ACC (specifically Clemson) will no longer be a perennial CFP factor. Especially considering the CFP is likely to expand soon. 6/29/2022 11:52:11 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, but I don't like the way things are trending. Clemson is down, and the SEC and Big10 seem to be dominating recruiting more than ever. Miami may bounce back with NIL, but I can't say I'm very optimistic for the future of the ACC compared to the others 6/29/2022 12:46:13 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Clemson is only down because they DJ Uiagalelei isn't good. As soon as they find somebody who is better they will be good again.
[Edited on June 29, 2022 at 1:00 PM. Reason : Well that combined with Dabo's outdated views of the transfer portal and commits taking visits ] 6/29/2022 12:59:09 PM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, mostly talking about his view on transfers/promotions etc. He's begrudgingly moving forward, but not much
Also forgot to mention, if they're expanding the CFP anyways, then there's no real need to change to a format which facilitates getting an ACC team in, imo 6/29/2022 1:31:23 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck Wake Forest. Havent been this happy since Maryland left the conference
6/29/2022 6:51:01 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
RIP Vaughn Towers 7/6/2022 3:11:32 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Clemson picked to win Atlantic again. 7/26/2022 3:52:14 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Not by me!! 7/26/2022 4:58:17 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Complete disrespect of the Pack. Shameful effort by the media. It will only fuel us to the greatest season ever. 7/26/2022 6:22:40 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
Good news is our season will be over by 10/2 7/26/2022 6:32:21 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
It would be unprecedented to name us national champions that early, but I guess it's possible?? 7/26/2022 6:42:44 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
To be serious for a moment. Even with an L at Clemson (which, while incredibly unlikely I will admit that it is possible) the season would hardly be over. 7-1 could definitely be good enough to win the division this year. Clemson will be really good. But I don’t think they’ll be nearly as dominant as they were prior to 2021. 7/26/2022 7:56:21 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
A division title at 7-1 with a loss to Clemson prob means they finish 6-2. Which is unlikely if they beat us. Clemson is a must win. We’d be better off at 7-1 with a loss to Louisville or GT.
[Edited on July 27, 2022 at 7:11 AM. Reason : Re: tiebreakers ] 7/27/2022 7:10:46 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
You are right, beating Clemson is extremely important as far as tiebreakers go. I just don’t think Clemson going 6-2 is out of the question. But. This is all silly. We’ll be 15-0 when it’s all said and done.
I do think the ACC, particularly the Atlantic, will be better this year. BC, UL, FSU all should be improved. Cuse still sucks. Wake is good but I kinda expect them to take a step back with other conference opponents improving (ie, more chances for losses for them) but maybe I’m underestimating them.
[Edited on July 27, 2022 at 7:45 AM. Reason : A] 7/27/2022 7:40:29 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Traveling to bumfuck Syracuse immediately following Clemson and FSU reeks of shutting the bed but every game will feel like they until it doesn’t. 7/27/2022 7:49:17 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
Syracuse has been a weirdly close game the last few years for some reason. Other than 2021:
2020 - @ SYR W, 36 - 29 2019 - vs SYR W, 16 - 10 2018 - @ SYR L, 41 - 51 2017 - vs SYR W, 33 - 25
It hasn't been since 2015-16 that we beat the Orange 2x in a row by > 1 score, which to me is a surprisingly long time to go against a team that's had a winning season exactly once (2018) in that timeframe. 7/27/2022 8:00:09 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
2019 we sucked. 2018 they were pretty good (went 10-3). So that definitely explains some of it. 7/27/2022 8:44:16 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Clemson is good, but they still have DJ Uiagalelei at QB. Until they replace him, Clemson is beatable. 7/27/2022 10:21:05 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Cade Klubnik is a true freshman QB for Clemson. One of the best QBs in his class. But Dabo has seemed more loyal to the upper class men QBs in the past (Cole Stoudt playing over Deshaun Watson in 2014, Kelly Bryant over Trevor Lawrence in 2018). But yeah DJU was broken last year. Their offense was broken. I think Shipley is really good but without a legit passing threat Clemson will be beatable. Their defense should still be dominant. And they’re pretty loaded with talent across the board. But with new coordinators and major questions at QB, they aren’t nearly as scary as they were a couple years ago 7/27/2022 11:02:56 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Preseason Player of the Year 1. Devin Leary, QB, NC State (40) 2. Sam Hartman, QB, Wake Forest (30) 3. Tyler Van Dyke, QB, Miami (21) 4. Bryan Breese, DT, Clemson (14) 4-t. Brennan Armstrong, QB, Virginia (14) 6-t. Malik Cunningham, QB, Louisville (12) 6-t. Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina (12) 8. Sean Tucker, RB, Syracuse (11) 9. Myles Murphy, DT, Clemson (5) 10. Trenton Simpson, LB, Clemson (3) 11. Jammie Robinson, S, Florida State (2) " |
[Edited on July 27, 2022 at 3:04 PM. Reason : MVP]7/27/2022 3:04:34 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
2022 Preseason All-ACC Football Team (Total votes in parenthesis) QB Devin Leary, NC State (56) RB Sean Tucker, Syracuse (125) RB Will Shipley, Clemson (112) WR Josh Downs, North Carolina (128) WR A.T. Perry, Wake Forest (111) WR Zay Flowers, Boston College (104) TE Will Mallory, Miami (69) AP Keytaon Thompson, Virginia (70) OT Jordan McFadden, Clemson (127) OT Zion Nelson, Miami (82) OG Caleb Chandler, Louisville (104) OG Christian Mahogany, Boston College (67) C Grant Gibson, NC State (90) DE Myles Murphy, Clemson (120) DE Habakkuk Baldonado, Pitt (54) DT Bryan Bresee, Clemson (116) DT Calijah Kancey, Pitt (62) LB Drake Thomas, NC State (92) LB Trenton Simpson, Clemson (82) LB Payton Wilson, NC State (60) CB Kei'Trel Clark, Louisville (70) CB Josh DeBerry, Boston College (65) S Jammie Robinson, Florida State (93) S Tanner Ingle, NC State (63) PK B.T. Potter, Clemson (99) P Lou Hedley, Miami (101) SP Josh Downs, North Carolina (57) 7/27/2022 3:07:05 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
SMH our best LB didn't even make it 7/27/2022 3:22:12 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Wake fans are super salty about Leary over Hartman. Fuck em. Leary is better. 7/27/2022 6:05:08 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Big Journalism always favors NC State. 7/28/2022 8:09:14 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
It’s true. We’re media darlings. Always. 7/28/2022 8:57:09 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
I;ll echo the point about clemson not having a great offense and not likely being able to put up enough points in a game against us.
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also, why all the love for shipley at RB? he didnt show much last year to me. Just think there are others in the league that deserve a look. 7/28/2022 12:03:27 PM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
Since Clemson's passing game left so little to be respected, it allowed defenses to key in on him 7/28/2022 1:16:03 PM |