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"I would go so far as to say that this patch is the first step in my turning on this game. "

u mean off

2/14/2006 7:37:47 PM

aww, what's the matter? can't exploit the C4 and throw it 30 yards now? poor baby

2/14/2006 7:41:28 PM

as soon as the mg, anti-tank and sniper guys get their rocks off enough to the new guns things will settle back down some....

overall improvements to the game.... you had to be pretty good to stay airborne in DC

2/14/2006 9:21:14 PM

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"I would go so far as to say that this patch is the first step in my turning on this game."

he forgot the dramatic pause, read it again...

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"I would go so far as to say that this patch is the first step in my turning.... on this game."

2/14/2006 9:25:46 PM

downloading it now

will have to learn all new techniques of laying slaughter on noobs now.

Although I've spent a lot less time plane whoring because I've found that it's the best way to get yourself TK'd on your own runway.

2/14/2006 9:31:08 PM

I just bought the game this weekend. Not the expansion pack yet. Am I good with just the basic game right now?

I will be getting on and might wanna play with some of ya'll in a week or two once NewEgg gets my RMA'd mobo and sends the new one so I can actually play. My 1.5 Athlon is just too damn slow to run it with my shitty Radeon 8500. But I'm pretty sure my Athlon 64 3700+ with a gig or 2 of RAM and a Geforce 6800 HS OC'd to 470 mhz core speed and 1.6 ghz for the memory oughta run it pretty nicely.

[Edited on February 14, 2006 at 9:54 PM. Reason : ]

2/14/2006 9:53:38 PM

yeah, to get the exp-pac weapons just use a computer with it installed and you will get the unlocks....

definatly

72.36.157.154 for a server that I admin at

2/14/2006 9:56:52 PM

^ I think I'm banned there

2/14/2006 9:58:48 PM

hmmmm try it again, i think i unbanned you.... the server is down or somthing atm though

2/14/2006 10:01:21 PM

i kept getting banned this past week for solo heli owning planes and helis with tv missiles

it was hilarious


now it's harder to get planes due to only 400m range instead of 650
and can't stay hidden and pwn

[Edited on February 14, 2006 at 10:11 PM. Reason : ]

2/14/2006 10:10:37 PM

too much h4x

2/14/2006 11:18:44 PM

ok patch thoughts, I'm gonna try and limit the bitching as much as possible.

Pilots are going to have to rethink the way they go about flying. There's definitely a "no-mans-land" altitude when generally flying around that WILL get you nuked. If you're trying to get somewhere, fly either nape-of-the-earth or above the haze beyond lock distance.

The new Ground AA is good, the new AA missiles are simply unspeakably powerful. No longer are the days of slowly out fighting another good pilot with guns, you can hit them while they are on a perpendicular vector while afterburning with these new fuckers. The missiles will sense where you are going, and basically lead the target; its really stunningly easy to shoot down another plane. I was shot down while executing some pretty random/bizzare maneuvers that in reality (or in the old version) wouldn't have a chance of tracking. I also shot down some bloke that had flown off my screen but my missile had already fired. In short, they work better from medium to longer-ranges than they do from close-up. This is a definite change.

What does this mean as far as I'm concerned? I certainly have less opportunity to simply roam around and kill ground targets indiscriminately. I'll have to keep more of an eye out for the other fighter. You wont catch me in a fighter bomber anymore if theres an enemy figher available, they are litterally sitting ducks. What I tried to do on Daqing Oilfields was fly wing for the F15 and make sure the other fighter wasn't bothering him, and I racked up about 25 kills (between just the plane kills, the helo kills, and some random "flag just turned grey lets carpet bomb the fucker" kills) and a handful of deaths, probably 5. I'm a bit rusty and getting used to all the buttons on my x52 joystick so we can't chalk them totally up to the patch.

Did they cow-tow to the whiners? Yes, undoubtedly. They made it infinitely easier to kill jets. (It still wont keep the good pilots from killing scores of ground pounders though)

Did they do it the right way? Sort of. The best way to take out a plane is with another plane, and thats stayed the same. Avoiding ground AA is still simple, either fly behind a hill or go really high (I wish they'd extend the cieling, or give you a warning when you're getting too high). However, what they didn't get right is that now its a crap shoot between a noob and an experienced pilot as to who gets who. I basically boils down to who gets the first jump. Before you could wait to take evasive action if the tone locked up, now you have to start when you get the initial warning.


BITCH MODE: THE FUCKING MISSILES STILL -

1) DON'T TRACK HELOS WORTH SHIT. REALLY, HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT FOR A MISSLE (THAT MIND YOU CAN WALK DOWN AN AFTERBURNING JET PULLING 9G'S) TO HIT A GODDAMNED HOVERING FUCKING HELO?!?!?

2) WILL COMPLETELY IGNORE THE TARGET YOU'RE LOCKED ON TO AND GO STRAIGHT FOR YOUR WINGMAN THATS FURTHER AWAY FROM THE FUCKING ENEMY.

FUCK!

[Edited on February 14, 2006 at 11:24 PM. Reason : .]

2/14/2006 11:23:38 PM

^ yeah that part still sucks ass

2/14/2006 11:39:20 PM

i have had an easier time killing heli's w/ planes now

i'm not that GREAT of a plane pilot either

2/15/2006 7:02:47 AM

From a pavement-pounding ground/vehicle troop's pesepctive, all i can do is LAUGH AT ALL OF YOU PILOTS. Long gone are the days that you can sweep carpet/spray/nuke grounders. The AA gun needed serious revamp, b/c it really couldnt hit shit before. Now you finally have to feel dying/respawn a couple of times a game now. imagine that.

cya later, no more spam at will, and thanks for all the good memories.

2/15/2006 11:03:47 AM

i'm a pilot and i'm GLAD this happened. air was too overpowered.

2/15/2006 12:12:41 PM

^ isn't it also overpowered in real life too tho? he who controls the air controls the fight...assuming we're talking about one army fighting another army, not guerrilla warfare


i do have a n00b bf2 question tho, i've been playing the single player missions for now, and how do i get to an aircraft? on missions i see planes and choppers flying around but can't find one anywhere to hop into. i can find the tanks just fine but not the planes. where are they?

2/15/2006 12:57:07 PM

^ not always

2/15/2006 1:54:22 PM

wait, the game has single player?

2/15/2006 2:03:41 PM

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"^ isn't it also overpowered in real life too tho? he who controls the air controls the fight...assuming we're talking about one army fighting another army, not guerrilla warfare"

way more players than pilots, hence the people that cry like babies.

they need a map in a patch that has like 8 planes and helicopters

that'd be insanely fun

2/15/2006 2:30:43 PM

Hahaha yeah that would be fun to have a squadron vs. squadron dogfight.

To answer synapse's question, you can't find any of the planes/helicopters in single player because they are already taken. Most likely a bot player spawned closer to the plane and took it. If you are able to get to the vehicle around the same time as them, it will let you fly and kick them out. The biggest problem though is that single player missions are only 16 player so there aren't many planes or choppers on the levels. If you are looking to learn to fly without looking like a complete n00b in a regular server, just create a 64-man local server.

2/15/2006 4:06:18 PM

i wish i had more than just the demo

i love being a sniper



does anybody want to sell their copy?

[Edited on February 15, 2006 at 4:13 PM. Reason : .]

2/15/2006 4:12:16 PM

Say, who was it who was asking if I was from here yesterday? Someone recognized me, but I wasn't sure who it was.

2/15/2006 4:20:37 PM

ha, it was me. Dr Alan Watkins in game.

Yeah, you pwnt me once, and I knew I recognized that name. are you "gettin paid to play bf2" too!?

2/15/2006 5:09:52 PM

what servers do you guys normally play on?

2/15/2006 5:11:18 PM

now i play on any 50-64 man servers that are listed at http://www.getpaid2playbf2.com

i donno, could be a scam, but not really, b/c all it requires is i play bf2 on their servers. theyre ranked so its all fine by me.

2/15/2006 5:13:42 PM

I don't usually play on the specific servers. Pretty much what ever server has the best ping and is populated.

2/15/2006 8:42:08 PM

I don't think someone took the time to read my post.

Planes will still kill more than be killed.

Its just easier for noobs to shoot people down now.

I never had a problem shooting down planes with the old version. You just had to pick the right time to fire... (aka NOT AS SOON AS YOU GOT LOCK) also, when the AA is reloading, don't be a dumbass and sit in it.

2/15/2006 10:21:54 PM

i fucking LOVE ppl that stay in AA. how stupid can you be. those are the people that have never flown planes and don't realize the bomber view most likely.

and i even love more the ppl that go from AA to tank, just as dumb.

i go from AA to fucking WATER if it's near me, otherwise behind a damn fence

2/15/2006 11:54:19 PM

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"ha, it was me. Dr Alan Watkins in game. Yeah, you pwnt me once, and I knew I recognized that name. are you "gettin paid to play bf2" too!?"

Ah, gotcha. Nice to know who's who around here. I can't even recall which server that was, actually, since I jump around to random ones in the afternoon. I normally play on the ICUS server later in the evenings, but there's no one on before 5:00.

2/16/2006 10:50:28 AM

One thing which really pisses me off is that we got those two unlocks, and I pissed them away on two other weapons before I knew about the P90 and the L96A1.

The Linebacker and Chinese AA have become two of my favorite vehicles in the game now. I enjoyed them before, but now they are just lethal against helicopters. I still hate the Tunguska, though, because it has crap for visibility. I still see people saying that helicopters are too hard to shoot down, but I haven't seen any of the problems which I used to have before.

The MP7 is absolutely vicious now! They apparently upped the maazine capacity to 40 rounds, and it feels like they upped the cyclic rate on it since you can SMEAR somebody at close range with it. Before the patch, I wouldn't have wasted my time on it since it didn't feel like it was causing any damage. This weapon is definitely worth a second look if you play Engineer as much as I do. I'm dying to see if the P90 is as effective.

2/16/2006 11:02:22 AM

NERD ALERT

2/16/2006 12:25:03 PM

no that would be the WOW thread all day long. That thread has more nerds per square azeroth mile than any other.

2/16/2006 1:26:09 PM

i've enjoyed my limited use of the P90 so far. It's spread is a bit much at anything outside of close quarters, but that's why they have a sight and single shot. I used to get so pissed at the MP5, this is much better in my opinion.

I'm just looking forward to TWL matches now that C4 chuckers, bunny hoppers, and dolphin divers are dead. That's the only reason why we lost matches in the past...our team never resorted to such crap and should now do much better.

2/16/2006 1:28:27 PM

i dont know what the deal is, i never got these two unlocks after installing the patch

nevermind, i got confused.

but that's funny, i never knew people hated c4 chuckers, like they do vehicle rammers, tkers, dolphin divers, and bunny hoppers. b/c i definitely chucked that c4. i thought it was a normal part of the gameplay.

[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : ]

2/16/2006 2:01:31 PM

so when are were suppose to get the 2 free unlocks? when we get special forces or just the patch. I dont have special forces and havent seen and free unlocks yets.

2/16/2006 3:06:47 PM

u get two free ones with special forces, and then i think when u rank up from now on you get two instead of just one. i think.

2/16/2006 4:03:39 PM

don't know about that one...

2/16/2006 4:32:27 PM

shit the only way to C4 a moving tank without "getting run over" is to chuck it.

2/16/2006 5:27:12 PM

exactly, its near impossible to c4 tanks now without gettin run over or blowin yourself up

^^enlighten us

[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 6:35 PM. Reason : ]

2/16/2006 6:34:42 PM

New points whore machine will be the mobile AA.

You heard it here first folks.

2/16/2006 8:38:55 PM

2/16/2006 8:52:44 PM

boonedocks:

Why don't you log onto that server that Arab13 mentioned, and I'll let you see just how well your little missiles work

2/16/2006 9:26:10 PM

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"New points whore machine will be the mobile AA."

vs Infantry oh HEEEELLLL yes... the thing obliterates them... well the Linebacker does....

2/16/2006 9:26:13 PM

^^ No broadband atm. Sowwy

^ Have you played Reality Mod? The AA's insane.

2/17/2006 12:04:01 AM

Where can I download this 1.2 patch without having to register with some site? The official link from the EA website is broken.

[Edited on February 17, 2006 at 11:59 AM. Reason : ]

2/17/2006 11:52:23 AM

register you jew

2/17/2006 3:06:25 PM

all these changes make me wonder if its worth playing again once I get my computer upgraded...

I mean I will have to buy special forces and/or the euro pack.. are they really worth it? I'm sure it will be nice to spend my seemingly unlimited gun unlocks that I didn't even earn when I was playing.

[Edited on February 17, 2006 at 3:56 PM. Reason : -s]

2/17/2006 3:54:54 PM

try this for the incremental patch...just go with the free side

http://rapidshare.de/files/13228674/BF2_Incremental_Patch_1.12_-_1.2.exe

2/17/2006 4:48:17 PM

man i love the AK101, its so much fun.

2/17/2006 6:40:27 PM