aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
it would be +100 if he'd do it on the record 9/15/2009 7:45:33 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oops, well, so much for that, as Obama imposes a 35% tax on Chinese tires, requiring higher prices be paid by the majority of Americans." | Yeah, well tariffs worked in the Great Depres . . . no wait.
^ Nah, that is way below his paygrade. He learned his lesson with the Henry Louis Gates flap. (ZOMG, JCASHFAN IS RACIST, HE SAID A BLACK MAN LEARNED HIS LESSON!!!!!)9/15/2009 8:04:30 AM |
moron All American 34018 Posts user info edit post |
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/now-even-the-government-has-an-app-store/?hpw White House Eyes Cloud Computing With Apps.gov
Quote : | "The Obama administration has long touted cloud computing as an effective means to take advantage of technology for less money, and CIO Vivek Kundra on Monday announced the launch of apps.gov, an online storefront for federal agencies to browse and purchase cloud-based IT services. … In a speech at NASA’s Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, Mr. Kundra said that the cloud offerings could be cheaper and more energy-efficient and allow the federal government to benefit from the same technological advances that most consumers enjoy." |
9/15/2009 7:31:04 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22976 Posts user info edit post |
cloud computing is a fad. Some large service providers are already backing away from it. 9/15/2009 8:02:58 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-a-jackass/ (Audio file, pretty hilarious.) 9/15/2009 10:06:27 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
As much as I dislike Obama, I have to give him credit for calling West what he was. 9/15/2009 10:40:53 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
yea gg obama
im glad he did that 9/15/2009 10:48:41 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Reminds me of W's birdie...
9/15/2009 11:06:41 PM |
moron All American 34018 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "cloud computing is a fad. Some large service providers are already backing away from it. " |
That’s a pretty broad brush you have there.9/16/2009 12:03:55 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
haha that audio file was pretty good 9/16/2009 8:14:05 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that racial politics played a role in South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst during President Obama's speech to Congress last week and in some of the opposition the president has faced since taking office. Former President Carter tells NBC Nightly News that racism has surfaced in opposition to President Obama.
"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American," Carter told NBC News. "I live in the South, and I've seen the South come a long way, and I've seen the rest of the country that shares the South's attitude toward minority groups at that time, particularly African-Americans."" |
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/15/carter.obama/index.html
While I don't doubt that there are racists, both avowed and subtle, out there, I'm getting tired of this vacuous assertion. Right now, the Democratic push for Health Care runs on the following slogans, "ignore how badly government has run everything else", "profits are bad", "we'll take care of you, don't worry," "everyone else is racist."
While a solid case can be made for health care reform, practically no case can be made for the current legislation and this is what we wind up with.9/16/2009 8:38:23 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
The hilarious fact about this whole Wilson scandal is that Wilson was incorrect in his assumption anyway. 9/16/2009 9:21:32 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
^^ There's definitely an x factor to the 9/12/"you lie" stuff.
Obama isn't doing anything Bush didn't do-- he may be turning the dial a couple clicks, but that doesn't account for the explosion of anger we're seeing.
I doubt the factor is purely racism, though. I imagine it's more a case of him being so different from the average Glenn Beck viewer; race just being one of his differences. 9/16/2009 10:46:14 AM |
Yao Ming All American 866 Posts user info edit post |
i still feel that you have to be a little naive to not assume that maybe some amount of racial politics played into Wilson's outburst. consider the source, and consider the topic that made him so angry (illegal aliens)
i mean, most of us live in the south, right? would that really be so shocking? i see people being racist all the time around here 9/16/2009 10:58:03 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
If racism has anything to do with it, I think it would be racism/xenophobia directed towards illegal aliens... not anything to do with Obama, which is what everybody's saying it is. How does Obama being black have anything to do with what was said and what the remark was referencing? 9/16/2009 11:06:41 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
It's directed towards people who aren't White, Christian, and heterosexual. 9/16/2009 11:16:06 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
9/16/2009 11:18:11 AM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i mean, most of us live in the south, right? would that really be so shocking? i see people being racist all the time around here" |
Head to the north and you'll see a lot more racism. From the simple fact that the population of the south is so heavily mixed, the racism down here, while more open, is also more mild (which isn't really the word I'm looking for but it's the only one that comes to mind at the moment).
By comparison, there are so many communities in the north where its about as racially diverse as a KKK meeting.9/16/2009 1:29:28 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^Truth. I know a veteran Wake County public school teacher from up North who, up until a few months ago, was unaware that black people also live out in the country. She explained to me that where she is from white people live in the suburbs, and black people are just the folks they buy drugs from in the city. Purchasing drugs was the only instance in which she interacted with black people growing up. She moved to Raleigh not knowing our schools were integrated... 9/16/2009 2:07:02 PM |
moron All American 34018 Posts user info edit post |
^ that ignorance though means that they would be more open-minded towards a black person if they met them. They have less preconceived notions. NOtice that her prejudices were also of southerners there too.
Compared to southerners who racist views might have become more galvanized, as exemplified in that poll that showed widespread belief in the south that Obama was not born in the US (or was it that he was a muslim?). Statistics in general don't fare well for the south, when it comes to racism. 9/16/2009 2:12:16 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
I really think you should define "the north" as well. Rural Indiana != New York. 9/16/2009 2:17:03 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that ignorance though means that they would be more open-minded towards a black person if they met them. " |
FACT9/16/2009 2:18:26 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not sure they are more open-minded. I think they have more money and more education so they can present their views more tactfully.
For example, newcomers (largley from up North) make very eloquent arguments against Wake County's integrated schools...but what they really mean to say is: I was promised good schools when I moved here, and I paid three hundred grand for this house, and I'll be goddamned if my kid is gonna go to school with some poor, black kids. 9/16/2009 2:35:27 PM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
Northern black folk don't fit racist stereotypes as closely as southern blacks. This is why Northerners are less racist. 9/16/2009 3:11:21 PM |
Gzusfrk All American 2988 Posts user info edit post |
Very happy to see this response on the whole racism thing:
Quote : | "WASHINGTON – The White House says President Barack Obama doesn't believe he's being criticized because of his race.
Spokesman Robert Gibbs said Wednesday that Obama — the nation's first black president — doesn't think that criticism of his policies is "based on the color of his skin."
Gibbs was asked about the topic following comments on Tuesday by former President Jimmy Carter.
Carter said that Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst during Obama's speech to Congress last week was "based on racism." Carter also said "There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president."
Gibbs says some people have disagreements with some of Obama's decisions but that those concerns were not because of his race." |
9/16/2009 3:43:09 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
How would it look if he complained that his political detractors were racially motivated? 9/16/2009 3:46:08 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18946 Posts user info edit post |
^ 9/16/2009 4:09:24 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/09/flip_and_pop_my_collar_like_the_fonz.php
Quote : | "But Barack Obama, bourgeois in every way that bourgeois is right and just, will not dance.He tells kids to study--and they seethe. He accepts an apology for an immature act of rudeness--and they go hysterical. He takes his wife out for a date--and their veins bulge. His humanity, his ordinary blackness, is killing them. Dig the audio of his response to Kanye West--the way he says, "He's a jackass." He sounds like one of my brothers. And that's the point, because that's what he is. Barack Obama refuses to be their nigger. And it's driving them crazy." |
It's funny because it's true.9/16/2009 4:16:51 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I knew the race card would come into play during Obama's presidency at some point. But it's still amusing to see how early it came out and how often it's used. 9/16/2009 4:30:17 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, you're right.
This was in July:
Quote : | "The group was discussing the recent Gates controversy, and Beck exclaimed that Obama has "over and over again" exposed himself as "a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture. I don't know what it is..."
When Fox's Brian Kilmeadeon pointed out that many people in Obama's administration are white, so "you can't say he doesn't like white people," Beck pressed on. "I'm not saying he doesn't like white people, I'm saying he has a problem," Beck said. "This guy is, I believe, a racist."" |
Oh, and let's not forget Rush, in May:
Quote : | "So here you have a racist. You might want to soften that, and you might want to say a reverse racist. And the libs, of course, say that minorities cannot be racists because they don't have the power to implement their racism. Well, those days are gone, because reverse racists certainly do have the power to implement their power. Obama is the greatest living example of a reverse racist, and now he's appointed one." |
Those sentiments have been repeated by just about every right wing blog and media source in country. So basically, what I'm saying is, they started it.
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rjrumfel All American 22976 Posts user info edit post |
Jimmy Carter, one of the most spineless, gutless, unimportant, irrelevant presidents of the 20th century, needs to keep his mouth shut. No one died and made him an authority on race relations in this country, and he certainly does not have a place commenting on how he thinks race is playing a role in the opposition to our supreme potentate Obama.
During the election I was commenting on how I was worried that Obama's policies would be extremely liberal, and as such, I was not going to vote for him, and my coworker's response was something to the tune of "ah yea, still tryin ta keep a brother down."
I just cant wait to get the next 7.25 years over with, so we can go back to being able to discuss how we dont like the president without having to be called racist. 9/16/2009 6:05:34 PM |
kdawg(c) Suspended 10008 Posts user info edit post |
Of course, PBO will "denounce" what President Carter said. It doesn't matter, it's been said, and the MSM is going to pick up on it because it was Carter who said it. He's the spokesman for all of the things that liberals/democrats really want to say and are afraid to say on air (Israel, Bush, Racism, etc.). They can dismiss him as much as they want, because the established MSM is going to take what he said and run with it as gospel. 9/16/2009 6:20:50 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
jimmy carter is senile 9/16/2009 6:32:15 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He's the spokesman for all of the things that liberals/democrats really want to say and are afraid to say on air (Israel, Bush, Racism, etc.). They can dismiss him as much as they want, because the established MSM is going to take what he said and run with it as gospel." |
you're a certified moron9/16/2009 6:55:21 PM |
moron All American 34018 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I knew the race card would come into play during Obama's presidency at some point. But it's still amusing to see how early it came out and how often it's used. " |
Why is this amusing or surprising? The right-wing commentators that have been the face of the Republican party the past couple of months has been doing everything the can since Obama took office to point out Obama’s race in round-about ways.9/16/2009 7:45:07 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
^ No more so than the morons claiming that Rush, or Beck or whoever the boogeyman of the week is, speaks for conservatives. 9/16/2009 7:45:29 PM |
moron All American 34018 Posts user info edit post |
^ Beck was the driving force of the 9/12 protest. If they are conservatives, he definitely represents them. In fact, his statement a few weeks ago that Obama directly said “judge me by who I surround myself with” was a blatant fabrication that was reposted on practically every conservative blog and website, including here, and parroted by conservatives around the Internet.
He may not represent actual conservative values, but he’s the one who is speaking for so-called conservatives. How this came to be, I can’t say (probably has to do with Fox News promoting him), but this is how it is.
We haven’t heard from Carter in months, and he can’t in any way be characterized as a media personality the way Beck, Hannity, Malkin, etc. have portrayed themselves recently. It’s ludicrous to suggest he could be. Even if Obama agreed with Carter (and I bet he probably does), he can’t ever say this publicly, and he knows it. Obama’s been pretty good about not talking about race until he’s forced to, which has only happened so far with the Jeremiah Wright thing (which preceded his biggest drop in support at the time). 9/16/2009 7:59:24 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
^conservatives rarely if ever stand up to them so why wouldn't we assume that they speak for conservatives 9/16/2009 7:59:31 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
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Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
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God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148125 Posts user info edit post |
Mad disrespect of BHO's mom ITT 9/17/2009 1:28:02 PM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
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welp...
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moron All American 34018 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/suspects-computer-show-sports-stadiums-fashion-sites/Story?id=8618732&page=1 Obama foils terrorist plot 9/19/2009 12:01:25 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Please get the fuck out of State politics
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp 9/20/2009 3:34:54 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
9/20/2009 4:06:19 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Beck was the driving force of the 9/12 protest." |
I disagree. The 9/12 protest was a rallying place for everyone that disagrees with current Democrat policy. The libertarians, the gun nuts, the religious nuts, the conservatives, the racists, the Republicans, the neocons, the moderate democrats, the anarchists, the Rushes, and the Beckites, all were there because it was a free rally to show up and voice your condemnation for the Democrat Despots.
And this is not unique: when protests were held under Bush, it was the same way; the protests were not partisan, because a lot of the people showing up did not like Democrats. The libertarians, the anarchists, the atheist nuts, the peace-nicks, the Democrats, the anti-globalizers, and the Unions, all were there because it was a free rally to show up and condemn the Republican Despots.9/20/2009 6:22:50 PM |
moron All American 34018 Posts user info edit post |
^ the 9/12 protests were definitely Beck’s baby.
You could argue the Town Hall protests are what you said, but not the 9/12 protests. 9/20/2009 6:37:41 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
^ Reason Magazine was pumping up the 9/12 protests before they happened and their staff was in attendance. Best I can figure, they do not identify themselves with Beck, as he is not nearly Libertarian enough. Also, Club for Growth invited their members out, and they are pretty darn Republican, more-so than Beck. Those are the only two organizations whose communications I monitor, but I suspect the other organizations I mentioned also rallied their members.
I find it hard to believe any one TV personality could rally so many people for one day, especially when there is evidence to the contrary. 9/20/2009 7:34:31 PM |
moron All American 34018 Posts user info edit post |
^ http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/
That states that Beck was the one who launched the 9/12 project in March, and he had mentioned the concept prior to then.
And 9/12 wasn’t originally billed, and still isn’t, as anti-democrat. Obviously since Fox News was the main supporter this is how it turned out, but it was suppose to be more general, bi partisan, angst. 9/20/2009 7:57:46 PM |