amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
405 stars per class 11/12/2012 8:48:32 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I feel like Cat isn't getting the hype he would normally get around here. I dunno if that's because he signed early, or we are hungover from last years class, but he's a baller. He's lightning quick" |
I wonder how Gottfried manages the minutes of Barber and Lewis. Lewis looked real good out there on offense against Miami(OH). 6 assists in 15 minutes. Can Barber also play off the ball?11/12/2012 9:54:56 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I love me some Tyler, but I would hope Cat can beat him out. Still not buying Lewis as a starter on a premier college team. (yes I know about Oak Hill) He can CERTAINLY contribute, though. 11/12/2012 9:57:35 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck that. I want Tyler on the court as much as possible. That guy gets the ball to the right people, in the right places, at the right time.
I'm not saying he needs to be playing 40 minutes a game...but unless he has a junior Lo Brown in front of him...he's not a back-up point guard. We can run a three guard lineup. And we can also split 120 minutes between Cat, Lewis, and Purvis.
I've seen video of Cat...and he's really good...but it's not like he's a Kyrie Irving that should get the nod from day one. He has deficiencies and he's hardly dominating. He's going to have to be bad-ass to put Lewis on the bench. 11/12/2012 10:01:20 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
You failed to mention defense in that hyper-reactive post. That's my main concern with Tyler. But, we'll see. Once again, I'm a big fan of the kid. 11/12/2012 10:04:21 PM |
Bullet All American 28422 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like to think that Tyler is a team-player, and he'd be ok playing 15mpg as a sophomore. With that said, I'd bet TL starts over Cat, at least for the first several games, maybe more (if brown doesn't jump, of course) 11/12/2012 10:04:33 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Agreed. 11/12/2012 10:05:48 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You failed to mention defense in that hyper-reactive post. That's my main concern with Tyler. But, we'll see. Once again, I'm a big fan of the kid.
" |
Sometimes you gotta sacrifice. Kendall Marshall was a shittay defender, but he had Henson and Zeller to back him up when he got beat. As long as we have long and athletic defenders surrounding Lewis, then we'll be okay. Getting Anya is a big deal...that guy is an eraser. Washington is long, Purvis is a big, athletic guard. Warren has good size.
If Lewis can take care of the ball, get 7/8 assists a game, and keep our offensive machine running...then I think he'll be out there for at least 25+ minutes next year. I'm really excited about Cat...but I still don't think he's a dominate point guard...yet. He's got some work to do.11/12/2012 10:35:41 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
We haven't seen Lewis challenged defensively, yet. If against major teams he comes in and gives up 8-10 points, then he becomes a real liability.
He seems to be ahead offensively, but that can easily be negated by what he does on the other end of the court. Keep in mind that getting beat on defense is far more costly than making an assist on offense (Assists to post players help team FG% a little. Assists to 3 point shots don't help at all).
I'd rather have purvis defend the 1 and have everyone slide over if defense at the 1 becomes a problem.
[Edited on November 12, 2012 at 10:39 PM. Reason : ^And marshall could hit 3 pointers. That's the main reason he was playable.] 11/12/2012 10:37:13 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^^ All good points. If we can surround him with great defensive players, we can possibly make it work if he's lacking. ] 11/12/2012 10:38:02 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And marshall could hit 3 pointers. That's the main reason he was playable" |
Marshall didn't start hitting those wide open threes until the 2nd half of last year.
He went a full 1.5 years being a scoring and defensive liability. But he was so good at distributing the ball that it wasn't even a question for him to be on the court.
Lewis can knock down wide open threes.11/12/2012 10:44:38 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^ And Marshall played with group of talent we will most likely never match. Ever. 11/12/2012 10:53:05 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
There is really no evidence than Lewis can hit 3s. That's a premature conclusion.
Getting to the FT line, limiting turnovers, 3 point shooting, offensive rebounding, and 2 point efficiency are the important offensive stats. If Lewis is good at any combination of those, that makes up for defensive deficiencies. Assists are second tier offensive stat, at best. 11/12/2012 10:55:11 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Before this turns into a shit show of an argument...
Are we still considered a virtual lock for Anya? It's been too quiet. 11/12/2012 10:56:46 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
marshall is 6'4 and had a 7 footer and henson guarding the basket
lewis is like 5'8 11/12/2012 11:41:11 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd rather have purvis defend the 1 and have everyone slide over if defense at the 1 becomes a problem." |
No shit...we did this with Archie and Atsur whenever we went against above average point guards.
There's no question that Lewis will get the lesser defensive assignment if its available.
Quote : | "Assists are second tier offensive stat" |
Quote : | "Are we still considered a virtual lock for Anya? It's been too quiet.
" |
Pretty much. It will definitely be a "wtf" moment if he decides to go elsewhere.
[Edited on November 12, 2012 at 11:51 PM. Reason : .]11/12/2012 11:50:24 PM |
Bullet All American 28422 Posts user info edit post |
Supposedly, the Twitters are saying that Randle will be in Raleigh for ESPN's College Game Day against the Holes, supposedly (January 26th) 11/13/2012 11:08:04 AM |
Bullet All American 28422 Posts user info edit post |
Apparently 2014 SG Grayson Allen from Florida visited State, Duke and Carolina this weekend.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Grayson-Allen-142769 11/13/2012 12:16:03 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
fire gottfried, hire jbrick. dude knows his shit. look at him laying down the law on tww. 11/13/2012 12:34:39 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
So are Barber, Washington, and presumably Anya signing early? The fall signing period starts tomorrow and run through next Wednesday. 11/13/2012 12:45:59 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
^^good, we need some outside shooters (I'm assuming this kid is a good 3-point shooter because he's a white SG).
Julius Randle is gonna be at the PNC for the UNC game on January 26th. 11/13/2012 12:51:56 PM |
Bullet All American 28422 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Julius Randle is gonna be at the PNC for the UNC game on January 26" |
yeah, I just mentioned that a few posts up
Quote : | "good, we need some outside shooters (I'm assuming this kid is a good 3-point shooter because he's a white SG)." |
From ESPN's Scouting Report: Strengths: The first thing you notice is his confidence behind the 3-point line. He's a natural perimeter player who is a high percentage 3-point shooter. See's the floor very well and can transition from scorer to passer easily. He's got an innate feel for the game and is in constant motion ...11/13/2012 12:56:59 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
Fall Signing Period starts today 11/14/2012 8:22:27 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/1239693.html
Packpride says both Washington and Barber are supposed to be faxing in their LOIs today. It'll be great to have them wrapped up.
Anya will announce and sign Friday; hopefully with us.] 11/14/2012 8:29:39 AM |
Bullet All American 28422 Posts user info edit post |
Mark's got that Street Cred:
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/11/13/2481679/basketball-recruiting-nc-state.html 11/14/2012 9:17:57 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Not involving us directly, but Meeks is suppose to announce tomorrow. Really really really hope he picks Georgetown. Fuck UNC. 11/14/2012 9:19:44 AM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
its inevitable that he will become sean mays part 2
(besides the weight) he even looks like him 11/14/2012 9:33:04 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
That N&O piece took an unexpected turn to Boner Town at the end 11/14/2012 9:44:28 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder if giglio knows anya is going to commit...he dropped his name in there like he was 11/14/2012 9:53:40 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/news/_/id/124523/cliff-alexander
Quote : | "Cliff Alexander @humblekid11 I got an offer from north carolina state last night #BLESSED" |
Though I must wonder how humble a guy with the tag @humblekid11 is 11/14/2012 12:52:21 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
Just saw on twitter that w offerd Cliff Alxander #2 center class of 2014 http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=5400152 11/14/2012 12:55:11 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I saw it on TWW 11/14/2012 12:59:02 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
Per twitter, we offered cliff alexander. 11/14/2012 1:01:15 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
along with every program 11/14/2012 1:09:42 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
11/14/2012 1:12:11 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
that boy's got a lot of offers, jesus. 11/14/2012 1:14:26 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Have these guys signed yet? 11/14/2012 2:33:17 PM |
Bullet All American 28422 Posts user info edit post |
Supposedly, according to Washington's HC, he has signed. And supposedly, Barber will be signing today around 5 or 5:30 today. 11/14/2012 2:39:13 PM |
Bullet All American 28422 Posts user info edit post |
Conference Breakdown: No. 3 -- ACC
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/1239074.html
Quote : | " Top ACC Prospects Top Prospect: Anthony Barber, North Carolina State Best Scorer: Xavier Rathan-Mayes, Florida State Best Passer: Anthony Barber, North Carolina State Best Shot Blocker: Damonte Dodd, Maryland Best Floor General: Anthony Barber, North Carolina State Best Post Player: Kyle Washington, North Carolina State Best Shooter: Matt Jones, Duke Best Athlete: Semi Ojeleye, Duke" |
11/14/2012 3:26:47 PM |
Bullet All American 28422 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.usatodayhss.com/news/article/julius-randle-blog-signing-day-oklahoma-recruiting
Quote : | "Right now, that’s the next visit I have scheduled on January 26 when they play North Carolina. I can’t wait for that. I know it’s gonna be live down there. I’ll tell you right now, I’ve got N.C. State winning that all day. The Wolfpack looks tough this season.
I talk to my boy Rodney (Purvis) all the time and he talks to me about State, but mostly we just trip out. As far as players on the teams recruiting me, I talk to Rod and Prince the most, I’d say." |
11/14/2012 5:25:32 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I talk to Rod and Prince the most, I’d say" |
OH WORD?!11/14/2012 5:45:26 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
GAME..BLOUSES 11/14/2012 6:15:04 PM |
Bullet All American 28422 Posts user info edit post |
[Old] Kyle Washington @ The NBA Top 100 Camp HIghlIghtS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S8aHRP_6_w 11/14/2012 10:46:34 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
I don't ever want to lose this boner. 11/15/2012 7:03:46 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I really really like Washington's game. Perfect compliment to a banger like Anya. Love the way our frontcourt is shaping up for the future. Perfect trio if Randle commits...but already well above average with those two. Fuck...we are getting some ridiculous talent in this program.
Monster basketball boner right now. 11/15/2012 7:34:32 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I think what's more important, is that we're landing talented players, but I also have faith in our staff to TEACH these players and IMPROVE their game. Lowe landed talent, but I never had any faith he'd be able to maximize their potential. 11/15/2012 7:46:20 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
^^Yeah he's got a great inside-out game. He'll fit in nicely into the high post offense. Plus he's got good back-to-the-basket moves as well, and is a lefty (which always looks cooler, I think). That baby hook is just silky. 11/15/2012 8:35:18 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " but mostly we just trip out." |
someone catch me up on today's urban yout language....11/15/2012 8:37:16 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
^ He's saying they frequently get together and smoke PCP-laced blunts. 11/15/2012 8:42:41 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
I'm thirty something years old and remember using the term "tripping" when I was a kid. 11/15/2012 8:44:12 AM |