nah, she can afford to not eat at taco bell

2/14/2017 2:20:11 PM

You guys think Pence will pardon Trump his first few days?

2/14/2017 2:21:01 PM

Seems like the optics of pardoning someone guilty of treason would be too much for an administration struggling with credibility anyways.

2/14/2017 2:24:31 PM

US Citizen =/= US Resident

*Leftist head explodes*

2/14/2017 2:24:38 PM

Fine. Let me explicitly state an implied agreement with your inane argument in a manner even your grammar school reading comprehension can understand.

You're right, they're not US Citizens, however:

Quote :

"They're legal US Residents. And should still not have been detained."

2/14/2017 2:37:13 PM

How does that negate the fact that this is incorrect:

Quote :

"He should have been impeached for prohibiting green card holders from entering the country. These are US citizens,"

2/14/2017 2:38:40 PM

if it's not obvious to some of you that this guy is a weird lunatic that gets off on trolling, this inane argument should seal the deal. don't bother with him.

2/14/2017 2:43:32 PM

It doesn't, that was incorrect. What's your point?

Is this one of those Trump style moves where you point out an error in one article and use it to say the whole network or website is fake?

2/14/2017 2:44:01 PM

Because citizens and legal residents are afforded the same protections under the law, one of which is protection from unlawful detention.

Regardless: In before the masturbatory 'look at me shutting down a bunch of leftist SJW hacks' comments.

2/14/2017 2:50:23 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/14/white-house-posts-wrong-versions-trumps-orders-its-website/97845888/

Quote :

"A USA TODAY review of presidential documents found at least five cases where the version posted on the White House website doesn't match the official version sent to the Federal Register. The differences include minor grammatical changes, missing words and paragraph renumbering — but also two cases where the original text referred to inaccurate or non-existent provisions of law."

2/14/2017 3:18:41 PM

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"Exclusive: Sources tell NBC News that @vp was only told of DOJ warning about Flynn late on Feb. 9th, 11 days after White House, Trump knew"

This is unheard of incompetence. They seriously have no clue.

Or it's Pence's people leaking to try and cover his ass.

2/14/2017 5:41:50 PM

probably been discussed before, but what's up with his bully-like grip-and-pull handshakes? looks fucking stupid childish.

Abe fell victim and so did Gorsuch (embarrassing to watch; see [funnified] video below), but Trudeau succeeded in neutralizing him; great to watch:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/02/watch-justin-trudeau-scores-a-stunning-draw-in-han.html

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"Which brings us to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who visited the White House today. As he approached, Trump was ready with a wolfish grin and an outstretched hand, and Trudeau looked small and vulnerable—like prey. Then, the Canadian shocked the world: He started off brilliantly by closing the distance between himself and Trump, meaning that if the president tried to pull him forward, the two would collide—mutually assured destruction. Immediately, he took away his opponent’s greatest strength. Then he engaged Trump in a shoulder grab—a total power move that Trump countered with a shoulder/neck grab of his own. As the two men grimaced at each other, Trump created some distance and went back to old faithful: The grip-and-yank. If you look closely at the 4-5 second mark, Trump tries to tug Trudeau’s arm toward him, but for the first time since he took office, his opponent was ready: Trudeau held firm, resisted the yank, and held his ground beautifully. Finally, Trump tried to squeeze the hell out of his hand and go over the top for leverage, but Trudeau wouldn’t budge. The president gave it one more try, to no avail, and at the 7-second mark he ran out of gas. After exchanging a meaningful look with Trudeau, as if to recognize a worthy adversary, he dropped the Canadian’s hand and beckoned toward the cameras. In my official ruling, this is a draw, but it’s a stunning, impressive result for Trudeau nonetheless. Just as in European championship soccer, getting a draw on the road is almost like winning, and for Trudeau to perform so admirably on enemy turf is a triumph for all of Canada. Unfortunately, this probably means Ottawa is getting nuked. But it was worth it to see the first small crack in the armor of the Ivan Drago of handshakes."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-handshakes-20170210-story.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/11/world/awkward-handshakes-world-figures/index.html
https://mic.com/articles/168322/donald-trump-s-weird-handshake-explained-by-body-language-experts

2/14/2017 6:01:36 PM

^^ sheer incompetence...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn-idUSKBN15T226

2/14/2017 6:02:36 PM

In regards to Trump, he knew, and didn't do anything. This shouldn't be surprising to anyone, honestly. It shouldn't be a surprise because Donald Trump has lived his life in an unethical and unlawful way, ran a campaign in an unethical way and allegedly illegal way, and has started his presidency in an unethical way, pushing potentially unlawful policies.
He just didn't care about Flynn's dealings with Russia. He only started caring once this information was leaked.

In regards to Pence, I'm not sure if he knew. If he didn't know, then that means he's was intentionally kept in the dark by Trump, and a host of other White House regulars. This is pretty disturbing, especially considering it's widely accepted that Pence is the one taking on many presidential roles behind the scenes.
If he did know, he told bold face lies to the public. Disturbing.

In regards to Flynn, lol, how are you going to get fired from your job in like twenty three days, my dude?!

2/14/2017 6:06:07 PM

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/831626499124035584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
JUST IN: Sources tell NBC News that VP Pence was informed of DOJ warning about Flynn 11 days after White House and Pres. Trump knew

2/14/2017 6:16:16 PM

Hahahahahaha, he found out by reading the Washington Post article.

Trump and Bannon have zero respect for him obviously. That's gotta be a kick in the nuts. I'm sure Pence is shocked straight.

2/14/2017 7:35:33 PM

I kinda feel bad for Pence here.

2/14/2017 7:51:13 PM

I don't. Lay down with dogs, deal with the devil, etc.

2/14/2017 8:00:14 PM

Is my understanding of how this broke correct:

Basically our own intelligence agencies had access to the conversations Flynn had with Kislyak and hinted at the content of those conversations to the Post?

2/14/2017 8:06:16 PM

I would add that intelligence services explicitly told the White House counsel several weeks ago.

2/14/2017 9:08:06 PM

And someone within the intel agencies had similar info before the elections

2/14/2017 9:51:42 PM

Quote :

" I'm sure Pence is shocked straight."

I see what you did there.

2/14/2017 10:20:06 PM

if he doesn't step down, or get impeached this seems like it affirms a message to other world leaders that Trumps temperament and inexperience makes him prone to manipulation.

I'm also worried what trump might do rashly to change this perception.

2/14/2017 10:26:39 PM

I can't help but think this is a bit of a witch hunt at this point. It was highly inappropriate for any trump people to have dialogue with Russian intelligence (this is more or less fact at this point) but everything I've seen as hedged by saying they have uncovered no PROOF of collusion. If there was it will likely come out but until then no sense in making that leap.

This is preventing any real policy being implemented though; which is a good thing if you're a progressive I suppose.

[Edited on February 15, 2017 at 8:45 AM. Reason : Moby knew]

2/15/2017 8:43:38 AM

I'm kind of on the fence too, though I wonder how much of it is a 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome. We're all so tired of the Russia/Trump story and nothing coming of it that we're too jaded to see that this could be the real deal.

2/15/2017 8:51:01 AM

I feel like I picked a great time to binge watch House of Cards makes me wonder sometimes if Trump also watched that show before becoming President to get a few pointers lol

2/15/2017 8:52:04 AM

If there is anything we learned from the Republicans vs Hillary Clinton, it's the more you cry wolf the more people suspect that there actually are wolves, even if they can't actually see any right now.

2/15/2017 9:02:25 AM

It's fascinating following Greenwald and Schindler on twitter. Couldn't be two more divergent worldviews.

2/15/2017 9:13:26 AM

Based on what we know thus far, I'm actually sympathetic to Pence as well. It's clear as a "Washington Insider" Trump and his cabal want nothing to do with him.

Quote :

"We're all so tired of the Russia/Trump story and nothing coming of it"

That's why patience is so important. The headlines fly out quickly and are pushed on us every day but it really does take a long time to investigate and substantiate things like this. Really have to try and push through on it because as you said, it very well could be the real deal and would be pretty serious if so. There's every reason to believe it could lead to war depending on the results.

[Edited on February 15, 2017 at 10:27 AM. Reason : a]

2/15/2017 10:25:39 AM

Quote :

"I can't help but think this is a bit of a witch hunt at this point."

7 Benghazi investigations, 33 congressional hearings, 4 public hearings, and 200 FBI agents investigating emails for a year that all resulted in squat. That's a witch hunt. This is just sharpening the spears.

2/15/2017 12:23:23 PM

Quote :

"everything I've seen as hedged by saying they have uncovered no PROOF of collusion. "

Actually, what's been said is that they have not seen any proof THUS FAR of anything but that the investigation is still ongoing. If at the end of the investigation they say there is no proof I think it probably has to be dropped (although you'll continue hearing about it from Congressmen until the mid-terms for sure).

2/15/2017 12:34:12 PM

^^

Talk to me when Trump acid washes evidence that is under a congressional subpoena, you hack.

2/15/2017 1:02:37 PM

lol, hack accusing a hack of being a hack.

2/15/2017 1:11:24 PM

Haha, he is having a rally on Saturday. Seriously.

"Everything is fine. Praise me. Praise me. Praise me."

Guess his ego has taken a beating last few weeks.

2/15/2017 2:25:45 PM

Either he'll be run off/drowned out by protesters or we'll be reading/seeing/hearing shit tons of stories about dissidents being forcibly removed by authorities. Either way this is a bad look.

2/15/2017 2:34:18 PM

Restless, vocal and potentially violent protestors are exactly what Trump is looking for.

2/15/2017 3:12:44 PM

This is great

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/831974600934318151

Many of the replies are hilarious, as are the handful ones by Trump supporters

2/15/2017 9:17:42 PM

What needs to happen is a "demonstrator" (rioter) try and do something with a cop around and get Goldberg-slammed. We know you lefties hate cops anyway.

2/15/2017 10:06:18 PM

Ask Trump about anti-semitism and he brags about his election win:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Het7ySEViro

2/15/2017 10:17:48 PM

Is it possible to be more naïve, childish, and dumb???

2/15/2017 10:39:47 PM

2/15/2017 11:15:22 PM

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-stephen-feinberg.html?referer=

Trump sending in his billionaire personal friend to shake up intel agencies.

2/15/2017 11:54:11 PM

WSJ article disturbs me (not going to post because it's behind a paywall). I do get it a bit since he has done nothing but call into question the legitimacy of them and doesn't even take the daily briefing but intelligence agencies need to do their jobs and supply him with information just as they would anyone else. Period. He is the president.

Also, I see Chaffetz is investigating the leaks. Wonder what changed from the FBI leaks about Clinton after Comey's letter? This must be more serious.

2/16/2017 8:08:12 AM

if the intelligence agencies have a reason to believe that he is not to be trusted and could easily be compromised, why should they give him a full PDB?

2/16/2017 9:59:23 AM

if the intelligence agencies have a reason to believe that he is not to be trusted and could easily be compromised, why should they give him a full PDB?

2/16/2017 10:09:58 AM

What does the US do when you have a President who is unfit to serve? Just from a management, diplomacy, competency on issues, knowledge, and so much more? Not even this Russian unreal mess.

Suffer through 4 years of policy degradation?

If you cant catch him in a bold face lie for impeachment, is there any procedural course of action?


[Edited on February 16, 2017 at 10:12 AM. Reason : kl]

2/16/2017 10:11:40 AM

yeah, but it requires most of his his cabinet and congress to agree which is a bigger hurdle than impeachment

2/16/2017 10:15:29 AM

"Fit to serve" is relative and not a required qualification to be president.

Can we stop making shit up and focus on reality

2/16/2017 11:16:21 AM

^^^Because the intelligence agencies have been politicized, just like about every government entity under Obama, they are putting partisan politics above their duty.

2/16/2017 11:17:40 AM

Section 4 of the 25th amendment is reality

its just not reality that there is remotely close to real support to invoke it

2/16/2017 11:19:26 AM