bitch, quit bringing up Ben Wallace.

He is an nothing like any other Big Man in this league and is the only active player I can think of who has no offensive game what so ever, but owns the glass and has awesome defense.

Wallace = Rodman

and that is all.

4/17/2006 10:49:01 AM

And Ced is a better post player than Swift....goodness.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE 7-FOOT TO PLAY IN THE POST IN THE NBA...ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR LENGTH AND ATHLETIC ABILITY PUTS YOU AT 7-FEET.

Ced could get drafted mid-first round. I'd say he has better than "a shot" at being an NBA player. If he improves the things that you mention...then he has "a shot" at being a really good NBA player.

4/17/2006 10:50:10 AM

is it true that we could hear as early as wednesday?

or is this all speculation again?

4/17/2006 10:50:24 AM

Quote :

"Amare Stoudamire is 6'10"....A WHOLE INCH BIGGER THAN CED WHOLY GEEZ!!!!! "

Amare at this point is also about 3 times as wide as Ced, but is still very athletic.

4/17/2006 10:51:59 AM

Rodman = 6'8

4/17/2006 10:52:21 AM

Bitch...Ced has more offensive game than Ben. Nobody in the NBA is identical. But I'm just proving the point that you don't have to be a certain height to play a certain position.

Nobody in the NBA is perfect all around at their position (except for maybe Kobe). Ced can defend any center in the NBA with an added 20 pounds (with the exception of Shaq). And he's serviceable offensively right now.

4/17/2006 10:52:25 AM

Amare has about 15-20 pounds on Ced.

Ced could gain that pretty easy over a year or two. Amare is much better with the ball...but he's also an all-star.

4/17/2006 10:53:49 AM

Quote :

"Ced could gain that pretty easy over a year or two. "

So why not stay in school, gain the weight, get your degree, improve your offensive abilities and get national recognition, and become a lottery pick??????????????????????????




And if everyone is so fucking concerned about him getting money for his family....what does he have to lose by getting his degree????????????

NOTHING. Its a win win situation, because he's going to be drafted higher no matter what if he stays....remember...we have a new coach coming hopefully....plus, if he fucks up and turns out to not be as good as we thought, then the NBA wont do shit for him and he's right back to square one, no degree, and it will cost out the ass to come back to school to graduate. It pisses me off to see people go when they're not guaranteed lottery picks just because of money.

[Edited on April 17, 2006 at 11:03 AM. Reason : ]

4/17/2006 11:00:18 AM

Malik Rose=6'7'', Carlos Boozer=6'9'', Lonny Baxter=6'8'', Jason Maxiell=6'7''. Eric Hicks is only 6'6'' and is getting looked at as a potential NBA power foward. Ced is plenty tall enough, quit hating. NBA Draft.net knows a lot more about potential NBA players than you or me and has Ced going as a lottery pick. He may never be an all star, but he is going to make it.

4/17/2006 11:01:09 AM

^ all of thos are PF's

He is big enough to be a PF in the NBA, he just needs a decent jump shot (not just a fucking free throw).

And ALL of those people you named have just that.

4/17/2006 11:08:57 AM

There are guards in the NBA that don't have jump shots. Ced has improved his shooting, and will continue to improve, and yes, I listed power forwards becuase that is the position he is most likely to play.

4/17/2006 11:22:22 AM

ok stop talking about this all we're saying is that he's not ready for the NBA yet but he could be a star in the future SO HE NEEDS ANOTHER YEAR IN SCHOOL UNDER A REAL COACH



kkthx any news on the coach?

4/17/2006 11:25:38 AM

Isn't there a thread dedicated to Ced leaning towards the NBA?

I can't remember

4/17/2006 11:28:52 AM

Lon Kruger

-went to the Final Four at Florida
-won the Big 10 (twice, i think) at Illinois
-coached the Hawks for 3 seasons in the NBA, so he can use that as a selling point w/ recruits

either him or PJ

-2 Big East titles
-One appearence in NC game (went to OT)
-has been in the NBA since 1994, so he can use that as a selling point for recruits

if we dont get either of them, i'll be dissapointed

4/17/2006 11:34:42 AM

herb's last 5 years of coaching in college are more impressive than kruger's

kruger hasn't done anything since 93

[Edited on April 17, 2006 at 11:42 AM. Reason : ]

4/17/2006 11:42:15 AM

^yeah really...lon krueger would not be a step up from herb...he's hasn't done anything lately...we might as well go after his cousin...FREDDIE KRUEGER

4/17/2006 11:46:35 AM

Quote :

"Isn't there a thread dedicated to Ced leaning towards the NBA?"

Seriously...let's keep that shit outta here.

4/17/2006 11:50:49 AM

he won the big 10 in '98, i believe. thats more than we can say for herb.

rather get him and make the ncaas than risk it on whittenburg and maybe make the NIT in 3 years.

4/17/2006 12:41:14 PM

Quote :

"So why not stay in school, gain the weight, get your degree, improve your offensive abilities and get national recognition, and become a lottery pick?????????????????????????? And if everyone is so fucking concerned about him getting money for his family....what does he have to lose by getting his degree??"

Last comment on the Ced situation.

First...he's not going to get his degree anyways. We'll be lucky if he stays for next year...NO WAY, he stays another year to get his degree. So arguing about him not going to the NBA to get his degree is dumb. And how would getting his degree improve his family's financial situation?? He's never going to have a desk job anyways. He'll make more money in the long run if he's a lottery pick...but the amount is not the problem, its that they need any kind of money...NOW. And he'll eventually make the big bucks in three years when his first contract is up...so I don't think that's big deal.

And he can gain weight and improve his offensive abilities a lot more going up against NBA players every day in practice, having NBA coaches coach him, and training with the best trainers in the world than he can with one more year in college. And he doesn't need national recognition (unless he has a big ego...which from my view, he doesn't), he has NBA recognition and that's all he needs right now.

Either way...I hope he stays. He's not ready...but most kids aren't. He'll be perfectly fine if he leaves early. Josh Powell is getting PT right now and he didn't get drafted at all. Ced is looking to go mid-first round. Big difference.

4/17/2006 1:08:26 PM

^

Quote :

"And how would getting his degree improve his family's financial situation??"

please see Julius Hodge's situation a few weeks ago.

He takes 3 bullets to the legs, if any of them go a few inches on way or the other, his NBA and basketball career are over. Good thing he would at least still have that degree to fall back on.

always err on the side of caution. Its always in your best interest to get the degree versus not.

4/17/2006 1:38:19 PM

a guy claiming to be dennis horner is posting over on the packpride premium boards.

normally i'm very skeptical of this stuff, but i think this i for real. his username and registration date lead me to believe that.

4/17/2006 1:39:16 PM

explain again who that is please.

4/17/2006 1:40:46 PM

^^^And what is the probability of an NBA player getting shot??

How many NBA players in the last 10 years have had their careers cut short because of getting shot?? Even if he gets injured during a game there are insurance policies.

Dumb argument.

4/17/2006 1:43:56 PM

Dennis Horner is one of our recruits for next year. Keep up.

4/17/2006 1:45:26 PM

too slow



[Edited on April 17, 2006 at 1:46 PM. Reason : slow]

4/17/2006 1:45:55 PM

so is he saying anything of any interest?

4/17/2006 1:46:09 PM

the self-proclaimed sports God needs to read up on his own school

4/17/2006 1:46:20 PM

hey look, your ncsu fan dick is bigger than panthro's. congratulations.

4/17/2006 1:46:55 PM

way to miss the point

good for you

4/17/2006 1:47:29 PM

He's one of three incoming recruits. You don't have to know a lot of about NCSU basketball to know that.

4/17/2006 1:48:00 PM

LOL.

Fucking dickbags.

4/17/2006 1:48:31 PM

JESUS. did this guy actually say anything of interest???!?!

or was he just like "hey guys. i'm a recruit. yup."

4/17/2006 1:51:31 PM

he said he hasn't been contacted by fowler and this whole ordeal is a pain.

he gave his thoughts on some of the potential coaching candidates as well

4/17/2006 1:51:44 PM

thank you.

4/17/2006 1:52:12 PM

Quote :

"a guy claiming to be dennis horner is posting over on the packpride premium boards. "

From the way he's typing, he seems to formulate sentences like basketball player

4/17/2006 1:52:18 PM

yeah i agree

4/17/2006 1:53:35 PM

ima go see this shit fo my self

PackPride here I come.

4/17/2006 2:01:45 PM

i havent seen anything about it on the free boards, but he's posting in the fowler in touch with recruits thread on premie.

4/17/2006 2:05:57 PM

Quote :

" From the way he's typing, he seems to formulate sentences like basketball player"

And...*gasp*....he's white.

4/17/2006 2:06:20 PM

^yup.

there isnt anything on the free boards.

those free boards are WORTHLESS, by the way.

4/17/2006 2:06:59 PM

^Tru. I haven't gone on the free boards since the basketball season began. It's a mess.

4/17/2006 2:14:16 PM

anything new?

lol

4/17/2006 8:34:51 PM

[Edited on April 17, 2006 at 8:42 PM. Reason : nm]

4/17/2006 8:41:41 PM

whats "horner's username over there, i'm not seeing the threads yall are talking about.

4/17/2006 9:09:31 PM

(This is a premium thread)

http://mb17.scout.com/fnorthcarolinastatefrm17.showMessage?topicID=15288.topic


Username: sjsball

4/17/2006 9:23:03 PM

yeah, found it right before you posted that.

4/17/2006 10:04:45 PM

Coaching news please?

There is a thread already to bitch about Ced leaving.

4/17/2006 10:17:37 PM

supposedly this site is reporting that we are going to hire kruger:

http://prephoopsonline.com/fan-access/breaking-news-north-carolina-state-to-hire

i don't have an account there so i can't post the article.


if you search "lon kruger" in the search bar, you can find the following quote from the entry:

Quote :

"Current UNLV coach Lon Kruger should be named as the Wolfpack head coach soon. "

[Edited on April 18, 2006 at 1:16 AM. Reason : ]

4/18/2006 1:13:43 AM

O noes

4/18/2006 1:20:17 AM

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STILL COACHLESSS

4/18/2006 1:25:51 AM