How do I get to see that view?

[Edited on November 5, 2007 at 4:11 PM. Reason : ]

11/5/2007 3:47:58 PM

It's always been there for me -- bottom right corner of finance.google.com

11/5/2007 9:32:29 PM

Is it based on your portfolio, or the market, in general?

11/5/2007 10:52:39 PM

Based on the market.
I sure as heck hope my finance sector holdings haven't dropped 14-trillion percent.

11/5/2007 11:28:19 PM

aight guys I got $1000 to start playing around with in the market, yall seem to know yalls shit, give me something good to start out with today. I got my ameritrade account set up and ready to make some money

11/6/2007 8:00:06 AM

If you only have $1000 to invest, I would highly suggest you move that money into a mutual fund until you've saved up significantly more. Mutual funds allow you to buy fractional shares, and they don't charge commission to put money in.

Ameritrade charges about $10 commission, or $20 to get into and out of a position. That's 2% of your money. In other words, whatever you invest in will have to rise by 2% before you break even. If you invest in multiple stocks (which you should generally do), that percentage is going to go up.

[Edited on November 6, 2007 at 8:15 AM. Reason : ]

11/6/2007 8:14:54 AM

with my company I have about 3K in mutual funds.......dodge and cox T. Rowe price and a few international stocks. I figured it would be a good idea to get a 1000 out of my money market and play with it. Do you still suggest more mutual funds since I am already investing through 401K?

11/6/2007 8:41:25 AM

I would just contribute more to your 401K assuming you haven't maxed it out or need the money soon.

11/6/2007 9:04:47 AM

^

11/6/2007 9:28:39 AM

^^ and if you've maxed it out, open a Roth IRA and start funding that with index funds



oh, and to modify my own quote from a day or two ago:

Quote :

"what the fuck, GRMN CTSH?"

[Edited on November 6, 2007 at 10:01 AM. Reason : asfasd]

11/6/2007 10:00:31 AM

ok 401k gurus

a new option is opening for self management for mine

for an annual fee of ~$150, you can self manage, and no longer be restricted to the predetermined set of preferred funds, time aimed funds, or internally managed "index" funds (funds where the provider tries to match or outperform speficic area indices).

however, trades between these preferred funds is commission free, to the user who does not select the self management.

so the question comes down to:

If given the capacity to select any open market fund, while paying commissions and other managerial fees, the annual fee, etc... could you outperform the "preferred fund" selections?

I've been kinda irritated at the options available with the preferred funds up to this point, and would like to be able to branch out more (for example, there's only two possible international funds available). Granted, there are like 30 options, so it's a lot better than most are, and there are ~another 30 comming... I just feel like it could be more mobile and responsive if given the option to trade any free market fund (also includes legit index funds, and not the crappy internally managed ones that barely keep close historically)

what say you

11/6/2007 10:10:36 AM

Interesting you brought that up. My company offers that same thing. I decided because of the fees at the time it wouldn't be worth it given my low account balance. If your account has $1500 then $150 is 10% so you would have to outperform the other fund selections by 10%, which seems pretty difficult. However if your account has $150000 then you'd only have have to outperform the other fund selections by .1% which seems doable.

11/6/2007 10:14:57 AM

exactly.

It becomes available at the turn of the year.

I'm thinking of passing the first year, then hopping in the second, when the $150 is a much lower % of balance (1%->~0.5%)

11/6/2007 10:22:17 AM

"there are 4 of us!"?

11/6/2007 10:33:25 AM

pm sent

11/6/2007 10:42:59 AM

Quote :

"with my company I have about 3K in mutual funds.......dodge and cox T. Rowe price and a few international stocks. I figured it would be a good idea to get a 1000 out of my money market and play with it. Do you still suggest more mutual funds since I am already investing through 401K?"

As others have mentioned, you can max out your other options or open an IRA.

The point I was trying to make is be careful that commissions don't eat too much of your stock gains. This is very easy to do if you're only investing a small amount of money in individual stocks.

11/6/2007 1:27:39 PM

Wow, somehow I just realized that IAU is up almost 20% since I bought in last April. Good job BobbyDigital.

[Edited on November 6, 2007 at 2:10 PM. Reason : .]

11/6/2007 2:06:32 PM

well, glad you bought that and not TRID.

11/6/2007 3:04:46 PM

<winces from JAVA>

11/6/2007 4:12:04 PM

i got in before the stem of the pennant formed ($17) so i've got less to lose, but i'm reloading a bit on this and hoping to get out around $50

http://tinyurl.com/ywf76s

11/7/2007 9:55:08 AM

cisco earnings report at 1:30pm

11/7/2007 10:28:12 AM

Eh I sold JRJC for a slight loss so I could free up some money to put into VMW.

edit: Looks like that was a mistake

[Edited on November 7, 2007 at 10:49 AM. Reason : ]

11/7/2007 10:40:44 AM

^^ i'm all in (zero cash on sideline for now) because of it. i think bulls start running once Chambers starts talking.

11/7/2007 11:07:03 AM

Eh, remind me to wait longer to buy into things. I am down 8% after getting into VMW.

11/7/2007 12:36:17 PM

^^ i took some off the table yesterday

a whopping 75 shares!

11/7/2007 12:44:32 PM

Just grabbed 4 more shares of GOOG.
Impulse buy. Hope it doesn't fuck me over.

11/7/2007 12:46:49 PM

^^ cost average in lower. i just picked some up. could it go lower? sure, but at no time am i putting my entire bet in on one swing. at $7/trade, making 2-3 trades a week and taking multiple swings at a position is reasonable.



[Edited on November 7, 2007 at 12:51 PM. Reason : eat one less $7 per week sandwich if you have to]

11/7/2007 12:49:56 PM

Ouch, the sky is falling again.
This seems to be a going trend...

11/7/2007 2:03:07 PM

how does one go about figuring out taxes on all this stuff?

[Edited on November 7, 2007 at 2:10 PM. Reason : n00b]

11/7/2007 2:10:05 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gain

11/7/2007 2:13:37 PM

so at the end of the year, you get a statement from your broker, and you have to figure out the taxes?

11/7/2007 2:16:48 PM

Any thoughts on MA?

11/7/2007 2:24:10 PM

^^ ya, its arithmetic. some brokers like etrade and schwab have applications that help you out with it, but i just take all my data from scottrade and put it in a spreadsheet.

[Edited on November 7, 2007 at 2:25 PM. Reason : ]

11/7/2007 2:25:01 PM

thanks.

11/7/2007 2:29:37 PM

Morgan Stanley (MS) is KILLING me. GAH.

11/7/2007 3:35:56 PM

Beat not Enough
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/newsanalysis/technetworking/10388951.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA


Wall street is not reasonable. Nortel jumped ~20% yesterday just for becoming profitable again. We increase profits 37% YoY, and drop.

go figure.

11/7/2007 4:35:44 PM

^^ That ton of buyers at the end of last Friday sure got some wrong information didn't they?

11/7/2007 4:39:25 PM

i would buy right now if i could
people are retarded

11/7/2007 5:10:42 PM

i wouldn't. if forced to buy a financial, buy GS

CSCO unfairly being beaten after hours

FSLR keeping me in the black

and

Quote :

"Any thoughts on MA?"

will go atleast 10% higher



[Edited on November 7, 2007 at 5:40 PM. Reason : dgfndjsgn]

11/7/2007 5:36:51 PM

Buy Cisco ... Man if you can catch it tomorrow at 30, thats a steal. For goodness sakes ... profit up 37%, delivering on expectations essentially, and still hammered... I mean, its not like the PE ratio is as high as google or apple ... shhheeeeshhh

11/7/2007 7:05:44 PM

^^i was referring to csco

11/7/2007 8:10:47 PM

Damn I bought those 4 extra shares of GOOG at $743.00. Guess I should have waited.
I think it's safe to say that the markets took a dump today.

11/7/2007 9:11:31 PM

man, i am getting destroyed by GRMN and CTSH.

my YTD gains have gone from >25% to <13% in just a couple of weeks.

11/8/2007 4:18:09 AM

^ got to take gains

11/8/2007 10:10:49 AM

dxd? anyone?

11/8/2007 10:31:22 AM

Sweet, my first stock purchase in 5 years

GOOG BOUGHT 4 CASH $706.34 $2,832.36

11/8/2007 10:41:35 AM

Damn I got 4 shares yesterday at $743 and now it's <$700.
What The Fuck.
I'm already down 15% on the VMW I got the other day, too.

<jumps out the window>

11/8/2007 11:01:59 AM

Damn I'm being DESTROYED today.

11/8/2007 1:07:24 PM

wowee

NASDAQ 2663.37 -85.39 3.11%
DJIA 13099.73 -200.29 1.51%
S&P 500 1453.45 -22.17 1.50%

11/8/2007 1:09:12 PM

buy low, secure that 20% gain, monetize early, let the house money carry the risk...taking early profits at the least, creates less anxiety.

11/8/2007 1:51:16 PM