^ educated guess. yes

12/2/2008 5:44:13 PM

^^^also makes sense

12/2/2008 5:45:25 PM

rivals doesn't list ASU as a possibility for Renardo Sidney, but scout has ASU as his #1 team


hmmm...

12/2/2008 5:45:44 PM

^he won't end up at ASU. who gives a shit about ASU anyway ASUTKE?

12/2/2008 5:46:26 PM

I don't think he will either. just found it interesting that they weren't listed on his rivals page


Herb hasn't coached a thug since Marcus Melvin

12/2/2008 5:48:39 PM

^scout/rivals lists != the definite source on who a kid likes/doesn't like, and if they were at some point accurate, its usually where someone might have stood months ago

12/2/2008 5:57:09 PM

Quote :

"He verbally commited to UAB but never actually signed anything because their coach will likely be fired by the time he gets there."

Why would Mike Davis already be fired when he just started there????

12/2/2008 6:11:13 PM

So you guys are telling me Sidney could pull off another JJ Hickson this year?

That would be

I'm assuming if this mystery guy commits, we back off Favors and go all out on Wall?

12/2/2008 6:11:13 PM

^^ I don't know exactly. i read all this yesterday and never did understand why Mike Davis wont be there. but UAB fans seem to think he wont be http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=330280

maybe "fired" was the wrong word. maybe Mike Davis would leave UAB for a better job. altho he's not done anything special at UAB to make me think he would be able to pull that off

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 6:21 PM. Reason : a]

12/2/2008 6:16:23 PM

Quote :

"I'm assuming if this mystery guy commits, we back off Favors and go all out on Wall?"

But where would we get the additional scholarship?

Sorry, had to.

12/2/2008 6:20:03 PM

^^Well it is kinda obvious that he got a raw deal at Indiana now.....and he did it the right way.

12/2/2008 6:22:27 PM

Quote :

"Sidney is terribly out of shape and doesn’t seem to be doing anything about it, and it’s pretty shocking at this point that he is still as highly ranked by the recruiting services considering how unlikely it is that he actually pans out if history is any indication"

12/2/2008 6:46:40 PM

I just made a comment in my head and then an immediate carl face. My thought was:

Maybe Wall can convince Cousins to come play at State with him.

Then of course I came to my senses (the ::carl face:. Come on idiot, Wall hasn't committed anywhere and you want him recruiting for State already?

Oh well, a guy can be optimistic.

12/2/2008 6:53:53 PM

i wouldn't be surprised if wall was pushing for favors to go to state with him when favors visited.

12/2/2008 6:55:18 PM

this was posted by gravis on the free boards at scout.com:

Quote :

"It is widely believed JW is down to NCSU & Memphis, also that DF is down to GaT & NC State. Different people get different tidbits all the time. Truth is the coaches do not know where either will sign, but feel really good about our chances with each. To the best of my knowledge JW "wants" to go to Memphis, but I think in the end the local ties, his family, and a growing relationship with Sid will cause him to sign with us. Conversely , the local ties work in GaT's favor for DF....there we need to hope his visit here and the hard work of the staff pay off (they will be down there for DF's game against LB Sat. night). IMO, we need DF to make a business, not an emotional decision. DF is obviously torn, or he would've signed with someone early."

12/2/2008 7:01:19 PM

I believe that the mystery recruit is Cousins.

12/2/2008 7:42:53 PM

Not to piss on the Cousins (or Sidney, or Riley) chatter, but ... N&O giving the pack a little respect:

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/1306262.html

(from last week, my bad bigEgo, didn't see it.)

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM. Reason : ]

12/2/2008 8:38:44 PM

[old]

12/2/2008 8:48:28 PM

This would have been useful

Quote :

" Published: Nov 23, 2008 12:30 AM Modified: Nov 23, 2008 02:30 AM "

12/2/2008 9:24:09 PM

Quote :

"This would have been useful"

^yeah, that's why i said it was old initially. good one though.

12/2/2008 9:30:02 PM

i dont know y they tell us about a new C prospect, and then dont give the name... it makes little sense, just keep shit to yourself until you can tell it damn

12/3/2008 9:44:00 AM

They have to make it seem like there is a reason to pay for the Premium when news is slow. Plus, I'm pretty sure all of the ad revenue is per impression and when mods throw out tidbits on recruits like that, the users sit there and pot/refresh pages more.

12/3/2008 9:49:19 AM

to be fair, gravis doesn't work for pp. at least not publicly.

12/3/2008 10:35:18 AM

What does gravis do?

12/3/2008 10:35:54 AM

post rumors.

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 10:39 AM. Reason : that and get his dick sucked by 40 year old men on PP.]

12/3/2008 10:38:58 AM

Quote :

"that and get his dick sucked by 40 year old men on PP."

haha this is true... i love it when they are like, come on gravis, give us a smiley face...supergay

12/3/2008 10:43:02 AM

All I know about Gravis is that he supposedly plays golf with some of the bigshots in the Wolfpack club... According to most that personally know him, they mean really really bigshots.

Other than that, no idea about him. He's usually dead on, though.

Haven't followed this thread, but gravis did bet like $500 in like August we'd get 2-out-of-3 of Wall, Favors, and Brown (Obviously, this was before Brown had committed). According to him, this extra Center we're going to take (If we land him) is independent of Wall or Favors status (I'm sure someone has already said this)


[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 11:29 AM. Reason : ]

12/3/2008 11:26:54 AM

From all my reading, I think Gravis is a pretty legit poster over there. They do hang on his every post but he really does provide the most breaking news when it comes to basketball and is usually spot-on so his info must be legit. He is basically the basketball mod over there since he brings in the biggest news like this whole mystery center thing.

I've seen him be right enough to know that we're about to be the talk of the ton with 3 top recruits having us in contention. Not saying we'll get any or all of them, but I think if it does break that we're in it with Cousins, it'll get our name out there even more. Especially if we managed to get all 3 of the recruits here for a visit together.

12/3/2008 12:01:08 PM

Man I need to go into hibernation until signing day. The wait for these guys to commit is getting so long. And I thought the wait for Brown to commit was long.

12/3/2008 12:12:37 PM

gravis is definitely legit, it's just annoying how every third post over there is "gravis???".

12/3/2008 12:30:02 PM

i'm pretty sure gravis is on the basketball staff. he has an incredible amount of knowledge on the inner workings of the athletic program. his information is ALWAYS spot on.

12/3/2008 12:51:13 PM

it seems like gravis is the outlet for the info the bball team wants to release.

12/3/2008 12:57:20 PM

^, ^^

I think both of those are pretty close.

12/3/2008 1:03:11 PM

Yeah it seems like Sid really wants to get the fans excited about recruiting(perhaps to take focus off the current team?) so they drop tidbits here and there to get the boards really active.

Like the people over there are chomping at the bit to find out who this mystery recruit is and are making speculations and such.

12/3/2008 1:06:31 PM

Don't think he's on Sid's staff.

Gravis has been there since the Herb days...not sure how many trainers or whatnot were carried over, but I doubt he's one of them.

12/3/2008 1:33:36 PM

Quote :

"their coach will likely be fired by the time he gets there."

Davis isnt getting fired but from what i have heard they have given him permission to speak to Tuscalossa or the other way around.

12/3/2008 1:52:56 PM

i am excited about us going after the big dogs, but at the same time...it seems a little sketchy

12/3/2008 1:54:05 PM

Quote :

"it seems a little sketchy"

no, it doesnt.

to be a big time program you have to go after big time recruits

12/3/2008 1:54:52 PM

well maybe i've seen blue chips one too many times.

We havent been on the national radar for a significant amount of time in years and all of a sudden, blue chips are throwing us in the same class as memphis, duke, carolina. Dont get me wrong, i'd love it if we were to get any of the guys we are still pursuing but in the back of my mind, i worry about some shit going on



[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 2:23 PM. Reason : . cant type]

12/3/2008 1:58:43 PM

this is the also the first time we have a coach with legit ties to the NBA

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM. Reason : in my lifetime at least]

12/3/2008 2:17:22 PM

^ Yep... that's the kicker

^^ Larry Harris can sell ice to an eskimo.

Lowe will recruit well at State, especially if he keeps Harris on staff. He's an ex-NBA coach, long time assistant, and is a graduate of the school he's coaching so you know he's not leaving.

I just hope he coaches kids up in the future and translate it into wins

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 2:54 PM. Reason : ]

12/3/2008 2:53:08 PM

^and he's got a championship ring in college and the NBA with the pistons

12/3/2008 2:59:56 PM

^^He didn't actually graduate from State, he ended up getting his degree from some other school (st. john's or something?)

12/3/2008 3:09:04 PM

Quote :

"^and he's got a championship ring in college and the NBA with the pistons"

Lowe wasn't on the Pistons' staff when they won the title.

He came with Flip a couple of years later.

12/3/2008 3:26:22 PM

^ right, Sid was with the Timberwolves in 03-04

12/3/2008 3:28:41 PM

^^St. Paul's, and he did it online.

12/3/2008 3:28:46 PM

they really should've just waived that sham 'degree required' clause for the coaching job. no reason to have him get an online degree.

12/3/2008 3:30:59 PM

^it was kind of silly, but i suppose it could be problematic from a PR and recruiting stand point if your head coach doesn't have a degree

12/3/2008 3:57:18 PM

Quote :

"Lowe wasn't on the Pistons' staff when they won the title. He came with Flip a couple of years later."

ahh shit

thanks for correcting me, my bad

12/3/2008 6:06:40 PM

Damn, I just had to take a cigarette break after reading this page of the thread. I'm actually starting to believe. Believe that Sidney is trying to polish a turd with our current roster while he goes out and gets NBA quality talent that he doesn't have to teach the fundamentals.

I like his vision of this program right now, and the way he is recruiting is fucking amazing. It is awesome to have a coach that has NBA ties, and JJ Hickson going #19 in the NBA draft, regardless of our piss poor season last year, could be the best thing to ever happen to us.

At the same time, as a State fan, I know where optimism leads.

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 6:33 PM. Reason : oh that grammar is tough]

12/3/2008 6:32:35 PM