I don't think Owen Spencer has any problem with his hands. I think he often doesn't maintain focus and look the ball in. That is correctable, and he will put up monster stats if he can address it in the offseason.

1/24/2009 10:01:41 AM

^that's usually implied when people say someone has terrible hands.

1/24/2009 10:46:59 AM

Quote :

"I find it intresting that we are 10 days from NSD and a NC State recruiting thread has turned into a discussion of the passing efficiency of a UNC QB."

thats cause we keep letting ourselves get trolled by the same douchenozzle

1/24/2009 10:53:56 AM

Updates
Rolandan Finch commits to BC

2009 Football Scholarship Offers:
Bold = Commit

QB
*** Everett Proctor (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-2/200

RB
*** James Washington (Boone HS) Orlando, FL 6-0/180/4.40 Enrolled Spring Semester
*** Morgan Alexander (Cartersville HS) Cartersville, GA 5-10.5/160/4.47
*** Greg Pratt (Naples HS) Naples, FL 5-9/165/4.40
*** Travis Small (Cheraw HS) Cheraw, SC 5-10.5/184/4.50
** William Pratcher (Cedar Grove HS) Ellenwood, GA 5-10/180
*** Rolandan Finch (St. Xavier HS) Louisville, KY 5-10/200/4.50 BC

FB
No offers

WR
*** Quintin Payton (T L Hanna HS) Anderson, SC 6-4/190
*** Bryan Underwood (Cleveland Heights HS) University Hts, OH 5-8.5/162/4.62
**** Justin Brown (Concord HS) Wilmington, DE 6-3.5/210/4.48
**** Larry Raper (Shelby HS) Shelby, NC 5-10/153/4.24
*** Kinsman Thomas (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-3/210/4.59
*** Carvin Powell (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-2.5/198/4.50

TE
**** Asa Watson (Rock Hill HS) Rock Hill, SC 6-4/200
** Anthony Talbert (Winton Woods HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-4/225

OT
*** Duran Christophe (Woodstock HS) Woodstock, GA 6-5.5/257/5.59
***** Marcus Hall (Glenville HS) Cleveland, OH 6-5/293/5.35
*** Andrew Tiller (Nassau) Garden City, NY 6-6/320/5.00

OG
**** Denzelle Good (Gaffney Senior HS) Gaffney, SC 6-4/295
**** Quinton Washington (Timberland HS) Saint Stephen, SC 6-4/322

C
*** Camden Wentz (Lassiter HS) Marietta, GA 6-3.5/280/5.35

DT
*** Brian Slay (Stone Bridge HS) Ashburn, VA 6-3/275
*** Tyson Chandler (North Plainfield HS) North Plainfield, NJ 6-6/315
*** Nathan Mageo (New Mexico Military) Roswell, NM 6-4/280/4.96 Enrolled Spring Semester
*** Deion Roberson (Tucker HS) Tucker, GA 6-2/275
*** Raynard Randolph (Gwynn Park HS) Brandywine, MD 6-3/295
*** Akeem Spence (Ft. Walton Beach HS) Fort Walton Beach, FL 6-1/290

DE
*** Ricky Dowdy (High Point Central HS) High Point, NC 6-3/225
*** Sylvester Crawford (Victory Christian Center Sch.) Charlotte, NC 6-5/215
** Darryl Cato-Bishop (Lawrence Academy) Groton, MA 6-4/230
** A.J. Ferguson (South Brunswick HS) Southport, NC 6-3/250/4.80
*** Clinton Simpkins (Chancellor HS) Fredericksburg, VA 6-3/215/4.60
** Brian Jordan (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-4/207
** Josh Jackson (Gainesville HS) Gainesville, GA 6-1/242/5.00

MLB
*** Ryan Cheek (Lancaster HS) Lancaster, OH 6-0.5/232/4.51

SLB
No Offers

WLB
*** Robert Nelson (Stone Mountain HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-0/205

S
*** Hans Rice (Eufaula HS) Eufaula, AL 6-3/195/4.5
*** Brandan Bishop (Boca Raton HS) Boca Raton, FL 6-1/197/4.66 thanks bro
** Donald Coleman (The Hun School) Princeton, NJ 6-0/207/4.46 Enrolled Spring Semester
** Boogie McCray (Lake Taylor HS) Norfolk, VA 6-2/210

CB
**** Jarvis Byrd (Pahokee HS) Pahokee, FL 5-10/170/4.65
*** Dean Haynes (Northwest Whitfield County HS) Tunnel Hill, GA 6-0/200
** Rashard Smith (Dublin HS) Dublin, GA 5-10/175
*** Dale Peterman (Ursuline HS) Youngstown, OH 5-11/176/4.67
** Keith Reaser (Miami Killian HS) Miami, FL 5-10/-/4.44

K,P
** Chris Ward (Starrs Mill HS) Fayetteville, GA 6-1/170


------------------------------------------STATISTICS------------------------------------------


Scholarships Count
16 Available for 2009
-27 2009 Commits
-2 Rejoining Team (Sam Jones and John Ware if he requalifies)
+3 Class of 2008 who didn't qualify (Palmer, Everett, Mangram)
+6 Transfer or Left Team (Jaradat, Locust, Golder, Burke, T. Barnes, Linney)
-------------------------------------
-4 Scholarships Remaining

Recruiting Breakdown
OFFENSE
QB - 1
Backfield - 2
Receivers - 4
Linemen - 3
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Total Offense - 10

DEFENSE
Linemen - 9
Linebackers - 1
Secondary - 6
------------------
Total Defense - 16

SPECIAL TEAMS
Kickers - 1

Geographical Diversity
Alabama - 1
Florida - 3
Georgia - 7
Maryland - 1
Massachusetts - 1
New Jersey - 2
New Mexico - 1
North Carolina - 4
South Carolina - 3
Ohio - 3
Virginia - 1

Star Count (highest of the two sites)
5* - 0
4* - 3
3* - 18
2* - 6
1* - 0
--------------------
Average Stars - 2.89

1/24/2009 4:53:28 PM

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=903930

This week's question: Which team left out of our early preseason top 25 do you think has the best chance to finish the season in the top 25?

Tom Dienhart's answer:
I think N.C. State has a chance to be a top-25 team and is a sleeper to win the ACC. The 2009 season will be the third for Wolfpack coach Tom O'Brien, who is one of the nation's best. Count on this being his best squad yet in Raleigh. He finally is getting players to buy into his brand of smart, disciplined, hard-nosed football. The biggest key to big-time success will be quarterback Russell Wilson. The knee injury he suffered in the Papajohns.com Bowl didn't require surgery, so he'll be good to go. He's a special talent and the quintessential difference-maker who can help the Pack overcome shortcomings. The key: Wilson must stay healthy.

[Edited on January 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM. Reason : sdf]

1/26/2009 10:46:42 AM

Quote :

"The key: Wilson must stay healthy."

No freakin' kidding

1/26/2009 12:39:30 PM

While I know that injuries are the key to our season, I don't think I'll be as worried and ready to throw in the towel if Wilson gets injured during a game. I am pretty confident in Glennon being able to come in, play well, and not hand the game over to the other team on a silver platter filled with interceptions in the red zone and pick 6s.

[Edited on January 26, 2009 at 4:01 PM. Reason : ]

1/26/2009 4:01:02 PM

^Agreed. Glennon looked very impressive in the open practice.

1/26/2009 4:05:06 PM

i had a nightmare about Harrison Beck last night

1/26/2009 4:05:10 PM

i hear we might not be renewing his scholly

1/26/2009 4:10:57 PM

gunzz you can't post that kind of positive propaganda. I'm at a happy place in my life where I am neither excited or dreading the upcoming season. you post that stuff, next Gavin Grant is going to tell us all Wilson is a lock for the Heisman, I'll get excited and then comes the slap to the face.

1/26/2009 4:15:06 PM

signing day is a week from wednesday. are we expecting any drama?

1/26/2009 10:32:48 PM

Quandon Christian maybe the only drama that we see. I expect him to sign with Clemson but we won't really know until signing day.

1/26/2009 10:35:41 PM

While I'm optimistic about Glennon developing into a solid QB I don't he'd be effective coming in for Wilson if he got injured next season. Dana Bible has modified our offense to work with Wilson and I don't think you could substitute in Glennon and get the same results. I do think think that Bible would later be able to modify the offense to suit Glennon when it becomes his time, however.

1/26/2009 11:49:40 PM

^why do you think that?

Wilson ran a lot more pro style stuff towards the end of the season...especially getting under center and rolling out. Plus, Glennon has been said to be more athletic than we think, so why wouldn't he be able to run the same offense?


And what makes you think that they don't have the guys learning both playbooks? I highly doubt the plays are THAT different. I'd assume we run a pro-set with some spread principles instead of the other way around. I just don't think its that big of a switch for the QB. I'd be more worried about the O-line remembering who their blocking for. With wilson they can let the pocket break down if they are creating space. Won't be able to do that with glennon.

Plus, that read-option really went away later in the seaon. If Wilson pulled down, he generally pulled down with the intention of throwing, and his big runs came on plays where it looked like he scrambled rather than running on purpose.

1/26/2009 11:57:22 PM

Wilson has played in the Bible pro-style offense that he has run for years. As far as the rollouts are concerned, Glennon scored a TD on a rollout in the Under Armor All-American game last year and that was without a collegiate training regimen.

The great thing about going into next season is that we know we have at least one solid QB with Glennon looking good too, but we'll have to see how he performs in game situations.

1/27/2009 7:11:46 AM

Call me a pessimist. I'm not used to having this sort of depth in the post-Rivers era.

1/27/2009 7:50:54 AM

Well, technically we don't have depth at the QB position because no one has seen Glennon perform, but QB depth is hard to gauge on any team. I do like our potential for depth on both sides of the ball.

Either way, you have to be pessimistic. If you aren't, you haven't been a State fan long enough.

1/27/2009 9:21:39 AM

Even if Glennon is mediocre, I would stake my left nut on him being better than Evans, Stone, Beck, and Davis combined.

1/27/2009 12:14:23 PM

Boogie McCray is looking elsewhere (Marshall, Louisville)

http://hamptonroads.com/2009/01/lake-taylors-mccray-wont-attend-nc-state

1/27/2009 2:46:01 PM

Pratt, Pratcher, Peterman, and Reaser committed elsewhere. Again, no big deal, just want to wrap up the board.

1/27/2009 3:03:12 PM

2010 prospect Creecy getting plenty of attention

Class of 2010 ESPNU150 watch list receiver Tony Creecy (Durham, N.C./Southern Durham) is claiming multiple scholarship offers, plenty of interest and an early favorite.

The 5-foot-11, 193-pounder caught 48 passes for 853 yards and eight touchdowns as a junior and currently claims offers from North Carolina, Duke, North Carolina State, Stanford, Wake Forest, Ole Miss, Virginia and Florida State.

Creecy and his family were Tar Heels fans growing up, but another in-state school currently has the early lead for his services.

"Ever since I started being recruited, North Carolina State has been recruiting me hard," he said. "They are now the top choice."

Creecy will make the short drive over to Raleigh this weekend for the Wolfpack's Junior Day event. Last weekend, he attended Duke's Junior Day.

"I want to go to a school that has plenty of returning players," he said. "I want a program that has a good quarterback, good receivers and a good coaching staff. Also, I want to go somewhere I can get a good education in case I don't go to the NFL I need something to fall back on."

In addition to the programs that he claims offers from, Creecy likes Florida, Oklahoma and Oregon.

Creecy also runs the 4x100 and 4x400-meter relay in track and plays basketball.

1/28/2009 11:49:40 PM

looks like Quandon Christian firmed up his commitment to Clemson

looks like they got Tajh Boyd too. that's the third school he's committed to; the others being WVU and Tennessee. is he this year's dwayne allen?

[Edited on January 29, 2009 at 7:23 AM. Reason : .]

1/29/2009 7:19:29 AM

akeem spence to illinois

1/29/2009 6:15:26 PM

Quote :

"Boogie McCray is looking elsewhere (Marshall, Louisville)"

I don't ever think he had a real committable offer

1/29/2009 6:21:09 PM

well, whether he did or didn't, there were media releases reporting he had committed. it's still noteworthy. similar to rashad green's deal a couple of years ago.

1/29/2009 6:28:46 PM

Leon Mackey switches from Clemson to South Carolina.

Jarius Jones to MSU.

2/1/2009 7:05:21 PM

are we still after that Lemon kid?

2/2/2009 1:00:41 PM

yes.

he wants to come here, we just have to wait and see how the academics and, more importantly, his legal situation shake out. it looks good, though.

2/2/2009 1:04:45 PM

Does Hakeem Vinson have an offer?

2/2/2009 4:49:03 PM

http://www.accsports.com/articles/200901304654/the-state-of-recruiting-in-maryland.php

Quote :

"5) DT Raynard Randolph (6-3/300, 5.2, Brandywine Gwynn Park) Randolph is a true space-eater who earned a dozen offers from a mixture of ACC, Big East, Big Ten and SEC programs. He wanted to stay relatively close to home in order to be near his ailing father and chose N.C. State in mid January over Penn State, Michigan State, Illinois and Louisville. “Keith Willis was my recruiter and he stuck by me from day one. It was obvious N.C. State really wanted me and that meant a lot,” he said. Randolph solidified status as a top prospect with a superb senior season, recording 70 total tackles, 18 tackles for loss and 10 sacks as a nose guard. He is a pure run stuffer who can take on double-teams and still make plays. Randolph also registered 24 pancake blocks as an offensive guard and was recruited for that position by many schools. “Raynard is probably the best lineman I’ve ever coached,” said Gwynn Park’s Danny Hayes, who has produced a slew of Division I prospects during his tenure at the Prince George’s County school. Great strength is manifested in 325 pound bench press and 450 pound squat lift."

2/2/2009 5:47:53 PM

^^yes, as long as he gets his academics in order. More than likely a sign and place kid though (Either hargrave or juco)

2/2/2009 5:52:02 PM

Robert Crisp was at the UNC game. There were some other juniors there, but I don't know who they are right now.

2/2/2009 7:35:39 PM

Marcus Hall to, where else, OSU.

2/2/2009 10:33:07 PM

signing day eve

while I love TOB and he def. has us going in the right direction.......I will always miss some of Chuck's exciting signing days. I think my favorite was when Willie and DeMario committed to us on signing day. (Although we also missed on Brent Schaffer that day which I guess really isn't a bad thing)

2/3/2009 8:58:42 AM

I remember when DeMario signed...I got home and was checking online and saw we got him and was like "HOLY SHIIIIIT!"

2/3/2009 9:08:09 AM

where is the best place to keep track of all the happenings for the day?

2/3/2009 9:26:03 AM

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/story/512663.html
UNC focused on quality, not quantity, of recruits really, quality not quantity when you sign 12312312 players in one class

Expected group includes 12 of top 35 players in the state, but question remains: Is there room on the roster?

With one of the nation's top recruiting classes, UNC football coach Butch Davis says questions about fitting everyone on the roster don't worry him.

CHAPEL HILL North Carolina is expected to sign one of the top 10 football recruiting classes in the country Wednesday. It will include 12 of the top 35 players in the state, seven of whom are rated four-star or higher by rivals.com.

The question now is: How will the Tar Heels make room for them all?

The NCAA allows teams to sign 25 players each year. North Carolina has 29 commitments, which isn't unusual, considering N.C. State and Duke both have 27. The bigger concern for North Carolina, considering its small outgoing senior class, is the limit of 85 scholarships per year.

Under NCAA rules, coaches are not allowed to talk about prospects until they are signed, so coach Butch Davis could not comment specifically on how North Carolina would whittle under the limit.

But Davis said Friday he's not worried about reaching the limit.

“There was never any doubt – never any doubt at all,” he said.

The Tar Heels, who used all 85 scholarships last season, lose 13 seniors, including Jabir Jones, a walk-on who was put on scholarship.

Junior receiver Hakeem Nicks left early for the NFL draft, opening up a 14th slot.

Quarterback Cameron Sexton, a redshirt junior, will graduate in May and transfer to a Division II school. In addition, redshirt juniors Richie Rich and Kenton Thornton andsophomore B.J. Phillips have decided to graduate and not return to the team.Graduate in 2 years??? really now???

Darius Powell and Tavorris Jolly were dismissed from the team this season for violating team rules. Kennedy Tinsley was suspended, and it's unclear if he will return.

Reserve offensive linemen Zack Handerson and Morgan Randall will go on a medical hardship scholarships next season because of reported shoulder injuries. That means they won't count toward the 85 limit.

That leaves 22 scholarship openings – and perhaps 23, depending on whether Tinsley returns.

If any of the current commitments “grayshirt” – which means they would not enroll until the second semester in January 2010 – they will be counted with the 2010-11 class. (A current grayshirt example is Kevin Reddick, who signed last February and originally failed to qualify before enrolling last month. He will count toward the team's 25/85 limit for this coming season.)

In addition, it's unclear if any other players might qualify for medical hardship scholarships, which recruits might fail to qualify, or who, if any, will choose to go elsewhere.

“You never know how many available scholarships you're going to have,” Davis said. “… You don't know who's going to get hurt and have career-ending injuries; you don't know who is going to graduate, and feel very comfortable and feel like, ‘I had a great four-year career; I'm not going to the NFL, but I had a great career, I'm going to get my degree, I'm going to move on with my life.'”

So how does Davis tell a recruit, “Come to my school, I have a scholarship for you?” when he doesn't know how many are available?

“Thirty-five years of experience,” Davis said, adding that he factors in the potential for early graduates and injuries in the equation.

In the future, Davis said, he hopes to build the program to a point where senior classes number between 17 and 20 players per year. That will make for more consistent recruiting numbers, and perhaps a few more victories.

“I watched the Orange Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, the Rose Bowl, the national championship game, (and) Florida was the only team that had less than 15 to 18 seniors,” he said. “Most all of them had 18, 19, 20.”

In the meantime, he's working on signing the best classes as possible, no matter the number.

Davis, who just completed his second season at North Carolina, said getting the best recruits in-state is his first priority.

A year after the Tar Heels took in a less-heralded haul of in-state recruits, analysts said Davis has rebounded with a strong class.

“Tennessee, South Carolina, Virginia and Virginia Tech have consistently recruited well in North Carolina, but UNC dominated in-state,” said Jamie Newberg, a national analyst for rivals.com.

Newberg calls the class “exceptional,” but Davis thinks it can only get better.

“It's not the culmination, but it's climbing the mountain,” Davis said.

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 10:12 AM. Reason : i love how NCSU wasnt mentioned at the end conisdering we did damn good in state last year]

2/3/2009 10:10:19 AM

They messed up. BJ Phillips is gong on medical hardship for some sort of hip injury.

2/3/2009 10:22:22 AM

butch loves a cluster fuck

2/3/2009 11:16:37 AM

butch = violations in the future. They do have a good class coming in though. Of course, so do we.

2/3/2009 11:33:45 AM

Article on the effect the internet has had on recruiting.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/9172486/Internet-has-taken-recruiting-to-a-new-level

This was at the bottom of the article. I don't remember this. Would have been during the MOC era. Just thought it was interesting.

Quote :

"A dozen years ago, I wrote a story on a high school receiver who thought he had a scholarship offer to North Carolina State, only to discover, as Signing Day approached, that the scholarship hadn't really been offered. Word filtered out on a recruiting website, which was news to him."

Did the kid not have an offer letter? Sounds a little like the guy that staged the press conference when he actually had no offers.

2/3/2009 3:09:12 PM

Yeah recruits usually get a formal letter offering the scholarship. The letter details all the expenses their scholarship will cover, as well as conditions that they must meet in order to keep it.

2/3/2009 3:35:35 PM

Rashard Smith Highlights - PrepTicket.com - - From "Sports Stars of Tomorrow with Pat Summerall"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IikA7aGGd0M


Edit: longer version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbKvHzQrWg&feature=related

[Edited on February 3, 2009 at 7:00 PM. Reason : ]

2/3/2009 6:52:52 PM

quinton washington to michigan

2/3/2009 9:18:16 PM

bump for signing day!

2/4/2009 8:10:02 AM

LOI's signed

Morgan Alexander
Tyson Chandler
Ryan Cheek
Brian Slay
Anthony Talbert
Camden Wentz
Chris Ward
Donald Coleman
James Washington
Nathan Mageo
Sam Jones

2/4/2009 8:35:02 AM

Well damn that was quick. 7 guys that haven't enrolled early have already gotten their LOI's in, wow.

2/4/2009 8:36:31 AM

I haven't been following this thread so of the ones that have signed their LOI's, how do they rank?

2/4/2009 9:04:40 AM

not many highly ranked guys in this class but a lot of potential and hard workers. I think both rivals and scout has us ranked in the low 30's.


The few players to watch for are Jarvis Byrd, Asa Watson, Denzell Good, Rashard Smith, Brandon Bishop, and James Washington IMO....and those are just some of the higher ranked ones. Tons of solid depth in this class. If you get a chance to see film on any of the recruits, watch it. THey look damn good.

[Edited on February 4, 2009 at 9:12 AM. Reason : ]

2/4/2009 9:11:55 AM