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Hey, they beat USC. They're a good team because of their name and history and stuff.

10/12/2014 3:52:20 PM

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Arizona absolutely shit themselves yesterday vs. USC.

10/12/2014 3:56:21 PM

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Being outscored 49-17 by Florida State in 3 quarters, getting rammed by Clemson 41-0, and allowing Boston College to put up 411 yards on us at HOME is acceptable and adheres to NC State standards, got it.

10/12/2014 4:10:18 PM

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bad news is we go to louisville next week and probably get reamed.

good news is we get a bye after that, leading into a road game against a pretty shitty Cuse team.

10/12/2014 4:12:23 PM

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^I'd be more optimistic about that game if it were at home.


If we get railed by the Loserville Tardinals (I saw that once on a YouTube comment years ago, and it's stuck with me ever since), then it becomes likely that this team folds, and even winnable games at Cuse and home against WF become a struggle.

The BC game was a huge momentum building opportunity for DD, in my opinion. Unfortunately, he made a mess of it.

[Edited on October 12, 2014 at 4:38 PM. Reason : ]

10/12/2014 4:36:38 PM

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^legit lol at "Loserville Tardinals"

Only saving grace IMO is that we do get a bye before Cuse. Give us a chance to hopefully get back on the same page and get things going.

10/12/2014 4:38:46 PM

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No current ACC showed this little progress in year 2. Mike London went 8-4 in year 2. Addazio already has 1 bowl. Cryst at Pitt won a bowl in year 2. Fedora did as well.

The bowl barrier is low. We played an awful OOC schedule and get WF at home. Improvement would mean that we're capable of winning at least one other game other than WF, who has a 1st year coach, and making a bowl. That's a pretty low bar.

10/12/2014 7:57:57 PM

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I just dont get it.

strong recruiting
strong exes and ohs

AND we tell the devils and deacs to STAND IN LINE!!!

I DONT GET IT!!!!??? We told them to STAND IN LINE! BOOM!

10/12/2014 8:00:32 PM

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we won't get a chance to make the Devils stand in line this year. But we do get a chance to send Caroline over the hill and make the Deacs stand in line.

10/13/2014 8:09:37 AM

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At least Chuckles Amato would be more entertaining and probably give us a couple hilarious soundbytes to remember him by. Doeren is totally forgettable.

10/13/2014 8:19:57 AM

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I'd say after a season and a half Doeren has already lost 75% of the fan base. That's quite an accomplishment really.

10/13/2014 8:36:12 AM

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People really want him gone now/at the end of the year? We are finally starting to get some BALLERS, I say give him some time to see what he can build up.

10/13/2014 8:41:52 AM

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Even the lady who works next door who yells at me all the time for being pessimistic said we sucked this morning. First time I have ever heard her not find at least something nice to say about the team.

10/13/2014 8:44:35 AM

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I hate people like that. Fucking sunshine squad.

10/13/2014 9:02:42 AM

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I watched the coaches' show last night. I never watch it, but the only reason I stopped on it was strict disdain and to see what bubbly bullshit he was going to say

10/13/2014 9:13:20 AM

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we should definitely fire him in December so half our commits will look elsewhere and some of the young guys on our roster will try to transfer. the new coach would definitely have a lot to build with then.

10/13/2014 9:22:17 AM

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99.5% support, just win 1.

10/13/2014 9:35:43 AM

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"I say give him some time to see what he can build up."


I admit, I'm curious as to how high he can build up our winless in the conference streak. We should only fire him after he wins the first conference game... unless we think he can come up with a longer winless streak afterwards, then I say keep him on.

I'll continue to watch to see how low the limbo bar can go. Plus it's nice to see our rivals have pity on our fanbase. It's the same reason I find myself rooting for Duke football even now.

I'll look for some symmetry too. TOB had lost what, 14 division road games before winning? If DD loses 14 conference games before winning one that would make his first win WF. I suppose it's possible.

Of course if that happens I expect the next guy to lose 14 games in a row, OOC and all. Make sure the next guy doesn't have OOC opponents that will make us crawl under a rock when we lose to them.

[Edited on October 13, 2014 at 9:51 AM. Reason : -]

10/13/2014 9:42:14 AM

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10/13/2014 9:56:44 AM

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"If you asked everyone before the season if we could go bowling and beat UNC they would have taken that in a heartbeat."

10/13/2014 10:51:41 AM

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10/13/2014 10:55:25 AM

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I thought I was bad but You guys are seriously delusional.

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"Being outscored 49-17 by Florida State in 3 quarters, getting rammed by Clemson 41-0, and allowing Boston College to put up 411 yards on us at HOME is acceptable and adheres to NC State standards, got it."

Is that sarcasm? When have we ever beat the top 2-3 teams in the conference? I can remember a few years where we upset 1 deep in a coaches tenure but we've never consistently beat FSU or whoever were the other hot teams in the conference at the time. Losing these games should have been EXPECTED.

Good teams win games and those are good teams. If a 2nd year coach at a middle of the road program goes up against a clemson or FSU and wins, those coaches would have a lot of explaining to do.
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"bad news is we go to louisville next week and probably get reamed."

as we should against a good program in year 2. It takes longer than 2 years to build a football program from the ground up.

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"No current ACC showed this little progress in year 2. Mike London went 8-4 in year 2. Addazio already has 1 bowl. Cryst at Pitt won a bowl in year 2. Fedora did as well."

Didn't realize the year was over because we lost to the best 3 teams on our schedule. WE ARE 4-3 and you're talking about lack of progress because we lost to some good as teams. Who said we won't make a bowl?

Bottom line, we did well to go 4-0. Look good and exceeded everyones expectations in those 4 games against easy competition. Hell, we were almost ranked. Then, we played the best team in the country and 2 of the best teams in the conference and everyone has given up. Under no circumstances should you have expected us to compete in those games or the next one. Complain if we lose to Wake.

10/13/2014 2:11:12 PM

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^BC is not one of the 3 best teams on our schedule.

I don't even really disagree with most of what you're saying...but BC isn't a great team.

10/13/2014 2:35:01 PM

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^ I agree. I think BC is a well coached team, but both GT and Louisville are better than BC. They are not a top-3 team in the ACC.

10/13/2014 3:23:05 PM

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^^Where would you put BC in a stack rank of our competition this season?

[Edited on October 13, 2014 at 3:28 PM. Reason : ^s]

10/13/2014 3:28:12 PM

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I'd have our competition as follows:

1. FSU
2. Clemson
3. Louisville
4. GT
5. UNC (I honestly think UNC would beat BC at home)
6. BC
7. Syracuse
8. GaSo
9. Wake
10. ODU
11. USF
12. Pres.

10/13/2014 3:44:12 PM

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^^You mean in terms of teams we've played so far? Then yeah, BC is #3. But this coming week against Louisville is probably the 3rd best team we'll play all year. Behind FSU and Clemson. After that GT, then BC is probably 5th. Then UNC. Then Cuse and WF.

10/13/2014 3:50:53 PM

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anybody watch the ecu/usf game? apparently usf led 10-7 at the half, then ECU scored 3 unanswered touchdowns in the 2nd half.

10/13/2014 3:56:20 PM

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i watched it for just a few minutes...not long enough to tell whether USF was actually good, or if ECU was playing that bad.

10/13/2014 3:59:11 PM

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because associative powers in CFB is a thing

10/13/2014 3:59:39 PM

Bullet
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what other possible method could be used to determine where USF ranks on our list of opponents, smart guy?

10/13/2014 4:12:37 PM

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10/13/2014 4:16:04 PM

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I guess that makes Carolina and duke better than USC.

[Edited on October 13, 2014 at 5:21 PM. Reason : thus you would be calling to fire the coach if we lost to usc.]

10/13/2014 5:20:34 PM

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I do not believe in comparing apples to oranges

10/13/2014 5:38:10 PM

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If we somehow ended up with a loss to USC, yes, I would be calling for everyone to get fired.

It's not ok to lose games you don't even play.

10/13/2014 6:02:07 PM

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I haven't been paying attention, but where the hell is Underwood this year?

10/13/2014 6:42:28 PM

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For the record, I was a Doeren supporter, but his recent coaching and responses made me start questioning him. I'm ok with losing to Florida State but then bitching about players faking injuries and then getting smashed the following week makes you look kind of umm, stupid.

The last time Clemson shutout an ACC opponent was guess when? Sixteen years ago. All I want is no more excuses and some improvements on both defense and offense which shouldn't be hard at all. If we would of sucked badly all year I wouldn’t be saying nothing, but we see what this team can do against solid competition and it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask this young team t perform like they did against Florida State all the time, but scoring 14 points against Clemson and BC? Seriously?

Also, this is NC STATE football we’re a rapid like a fucking wolfpack, why? I have no idea, but we are it comes with the territory and if you don’t like it then get out while you can.

10/13/2014 6:53:25 PM

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Underwood has mental battles he needs to fix, a lot of potential just no confidence but maybe it's a little too late. Him making a few good plays wouldn't changed much anyway. Also, Huxtable should have been fired at the end of last season as he seems like he doesn’t even try.

10/13/2014 6:56:04 PM

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Preach, brother.

10/13/2014 8:09:29 PM

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How come you're not talking about the BB gun incident

10/15/2014 9:28:00 AM

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"but then bitching about players faking injuries"


You obviously didn't watch the game.

Credibility = 0

10/15/2014 9:45:06 AM

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as little credibility as i feel doeren has, i think you give him brissett's senior year even if he sucks ass in the second half of the season as well. well, unless he loses to wake. then i don't give a fuck

but yeah, think you gotta let him fail with his own guy like TOB did with glennon. then there's zero excuse

10/15/2014 9:59:12 AM

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i feel pretty confident in saying he will at least get next year, regardless of how the rest of this season goes. some of yall should just accept that.

10/15/2014 10:01:55 AM

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if we lose out, i could def. see him getting fired.

not saying it's gonna happen, just saying it's a distinct possibility.

because that would mean losing to UNC AND Wake. and they are both terrible. if we lost to them, i probably would just cry a lot.

10/15/2014 10:05:38 AM

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We should only consider firing him if he doesn't win a conference game by 2016. If he wins a conference game this year he should probably get a lifetime contract.

10/15/2014 10:21:09 AM

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did someone hack your account? your posts aren't as funny as they used to be.

10/15/2014 10:24:59 AM

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"i feel pretty confident in saying he will at least get next year, regardless of how the rest of this season goes. some of yall should just accept that."

10/15/2014 10:26:11 AM

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Winning isn't the only measurement of success. Maybe winning games just doesn't take priority over other parts of his philosophy?

10/15/2014 10:41:17 AM

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Bullet's knees going unslapped is the reason for the teardrops on my keyboard.

10/15/2014 10:43:20 AM

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Haha, there we go. That caused me to slap my knee 3 times.

10/15/2014 10:45:04 AM

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