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"^^what weapons you using? Just trying to see how much more work I need to do before it is more about me just not dying and less about the equipment. I just started dual wielding and using weapons w/ life on spirit + life leach and getting some LoH amulets/rings. Not spending much really, but act 2 is now really easy. Can't tell if it is the nerf, or just how bad the WD really was."

My weapons are good but not great; both are fists with 1.4 atk speed.

826 dps
223 dex
136 int
2574 life after kill
+48% crit damage
1.68 spirit/sec

779.6 dps
279 dex
180 int
69 vit
+59% crit damage

My only life on hit is +336 from an amulet, and my only IAS is 7% from a ring. I'm a big proponent of heavy +dex over base dps for weapons, since I also get dodge and armor from it. From other gear, I've got 20% crit chance and another 58% crit damage to leverage the crit damage on the weapons.

[Edited on June 25, 2012 at 2:31 PM. Reason : ]

6/25/2012 2:27:48 PM

However... Dex is % damage. The higher your weapon, the greater that ppercentage matters.

6/25/2012 7:30:32 PM

does that mean i should stop putting emphasis on pure +damage rings and amulets now? seems that's been most desirable, about to start hell difficulty

6/25/2012 7:36:37 PM

Yes and no.... + damage is incredibly powerful in this game for raw damage. But you should not be looking for it at the exclusion of main stat items. For intstance i have a ring that has 74dex 21 crit damage and 22-39 damage.... And it gives my demon hunter more damage than my 121 dex 26 crit damage ring. +dam is very good dor building damage. Just be aware once you get into inferno.... Staying alive becomes increasingly more importat than killing things

6/25/2012 7:43:11 PM

Not if you are playing DH. My DH dies in one hit to most anything. But I can solo 90% of pony runs due to my DPS. If I dropped DPS in favor of taking 2-3 hits instead it would do no good.

6/25/2012 8:23:38 PM

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"You gave Firebomb flack for slow cast, but spiders are significantly worse"

True. Albeit the spiders linger and auto-seek out targets. This is very useful when trying to pull 1 mob at a time(such as super stupid champion/elites rolls) and if there are many mobs, at ~30k dps each spider is doing ~3k dmg x 3(the flame bomb/mana dart is ~9-11k equiv) and they last a few seconds...you'll get a ton out on the field and regen your mana in ~10-15 seconds depending on how many mobs you're dealing with

Spiders is not a dps for me, it's a tool for pulling and regening mana. Fire bats are my main dps and I use zombie tower for single targets that need to be killed within a few seconds(such as those priests that turn into big uglies or the sentries throughout the world. Zombie tower crits for me around ~500k when I'm soul harvest buffed(which i usually am). My passives are the mana cost reduce, mana regen and soul saving thingy

this game is ez, finding a competent farming group is not

6/25/2012 10:15:19 PM

Speaking of +damage, can I get opinions from the wizards out there about the value of this off-hand? The +dmg is really nice, but it looks like prices for sources are all over the place since you can't sort by damage.

+104-385 damage
116 int
61 vit
regens 200 life per second
crits grant 7 arcane power

6/26/2012 12:12:25 AM

The dmg alone makes it at least a 1 - 2m source. It is missing crit, but has lps. Really nice source.

6/26/2012 1:40:10 AM

sell sources and mojos on the blizz forums. sell faster and get more.

6/26/2012 5:34:48 AM

^^^can i have?

6/26/2012 7:35:34 AM

who was i kidding thinking I could get off work on a Tuesday morning and play a little Diablo before sleeping

Oh well, sleep now, play this afternoon

6/26/2012 7:59:41 AM

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"I use zombie tower for single targets that need to be killed within a few seconds(such as those priests that turn into big uglies or the sentries throughout the world. Zombie tower crits for me around ~500k when I'm soul harvest buffed"

I know people like this ability because it has high numbers, but I'm still really not a fan due to the aiming. And IIRC, even the Barricade rune can come close to the Pile-On rune damage. I still have more reading to do to confirm, but from what I've heard, spells that are "for" time are enhanced by IAS. So to surpass Pile On, you just need a 1.9 attack speed (assuming the enemy is there for the duration, which is pretty reasonable if planned). So things like Wall, Grasp of the Dead, and Phantasm are buffed by IAS, while Locusts and Haunt are not (so +dmg is all the matters).

Maybe its just a dirty rumor, though. Anyone able to confirm this? I can't check till later today, but there definitely is a lot of confusion on the matter.

And why are you using it those priests, anyways? You need to be right next to them to use it. If I'm that close, Locusts will drop them all before a transformation. Otherwise, Splinters + Grasp works for me.

[Edited on June 26, 2012 at 10:10 AM. Reason : ]

6/26/2012 10:10:21 AM

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"who was i kidding thinking I could get off work on a Tuesday morning and play a little Diablo before sleeping "

For years after starting WoW I'd take a Tuesday off thinking I'd get some time in for some stupid reason.

6/26/2012 10:30:30 AM

anyone else having issues since the patch? I can get the game to load but then won't connect to server, or if I don't hit play and just let the launcher sit it says missing a file.

6/26/2012 2:04:08 PM

Works fine for me.

6/26/2012 2:29:22 PM

It "works" for me but I've been noticing a lot more lag spikes. I picked up a Demon Hunter and it gets unplayable for few seconds like once every two minutes.

6/26/2012 3:03:08 PM

Fix it. I can't believe how bad the internet is on the NCSU campus in certain areas.

6/26/2012 6:25:53 PM

so i just found an amulet:

+100 Vitality
Critical hit damage increased by 38%
+24% Extra Gold from Monsters
23% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Critical Hit Chance Increased by 4.5%
Empty Socket

hoping that will pay for my game and then some.

6/26/2012 10:29:53 PM

found this ilev63 rare shield tonight



[Edited on June 26, 2012 at 11:16 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on June 26, 2012 at 11:16 PM. Reason : ..]

6/26/2012 11:16:06 PM

^^ if that vit was a damave stat thatd be a pretty damn good ammy. But with double find (albeit a tad low) dont let it go cheap

6/26/2012 11:41:45 PM

^^why didn't you post a pic of it identified?

6/26/2012 11:57:40 PM

yeah i guess pic wasnt necessary, im trying to see what i can get unidentified

6/27/2012 7:47:50 AM

... why wouldn't you identify it?

6/27/2012 7:56:53 AM

cause theres a lot of people that buy up unid'ed lv63s for $texas

6/27/2012 7:57:48 AM

why? Because they think that their MF has shit to do with the stats that are generated when they ID it?

6/27/2012 9:57:34 AM

yeah that's retarded

6/27/2012 10:00:31 AM

that's dumb.

6/27/2012 10:08:35 AM

Maybe its people who forget that they are playing D3 instead of D2?

6/27/2012 10:10:31 AM

its a gamble. you might get an amazing item for cheap, or you might have overpaid for a shitty item. some people like to gamble.

6/27/2012 12:32:58 PM

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"yeah that's retarded"

6/27/2012 12:57:00 PM

^ like he said its all about hitting the lottery.... Ive sharded probably 590 lev 63 weapons... But the 1150 dps arch axe with a soxket i got sold for 40m.... Do you take the easy consistant money, or hope for the big payout

6/27/2012 12:57:21 PM

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"its a gamble. you might get an amazing item for cheap, or you might have overpaid for a shitty item. some people like to gamble."

yeah, its called the crafting system.

6/27/2012 1:07:44 PM

Iding an item is exactly the same as crating it

6/27/2012 1:20:43 PM

Except crafted items are ilvl 62 as opposed to 63.

6/27/2012 1:51:00 PM

^yeah true enough.

^^ wrong, the stats for the item are rolled when it drops, not when you ID it.

the stats for an item are rolled when you craft it.

[Edited on June 27, 2012 at 2:09 PM. Reason : *]

6/27/2012 2:08:56 PM

^does MF have any bearing on crafted items? as in should i start making shit to sell?

6/27/2012 3:36:28 PM

MF only has a bearing on if an item can drop, not what it rolls to. So no, MF has nothing to do with crafting.

6/27/2012 3:39:56 PM

Semantics. My point is youre still gambling one way or the other when iding or crqfting an item. I could sell an un id doomcaster with 1100 dps without ever knowing. Or i could id it and make 15+ mil. Same concept with crafting doomcasters. The only difference being i dont have the physical item in my inventory..... For clarifications sake i was agreeing

6/27/2012 5:30:05 PM

Its not semantics; they aren't the same.

The difference may not have mattered to your point, but your statement was incorrect; it implied the stats were generated at the time you ID'd it, which is not the case.

I just corrected it so people wouldn't waste their time changing into their MF set to craft or ID an item.

6/27/2012 5:42:33 PM

There is a blue post on this. The item is determined when it drops. IDing an item is "essentially opening the present".

6/27/2012 5:50:16 PM

found this a little bit ago.

6/27/2012 9:23:33 PM

This Wizard is RIDCULOUS

http://www.twitch.tv/latifk

6/27/2012 10:52:58 PM

^^ Gimme gimme.

6/27/2012 10:58:51 PM

That might be one of those legendaries worth a few dollar bucks.

6/27/2012 11:13:04 PM

Actually its really not. It almost always has pretty close stats to that, and they are super common. Its worth a decent amount, but not a ton.

6/27/2012 11:13:33 PM

quiver with no + discipline

that IAS is like woah tho

6/27/2012 11:18:07 PM

i want that quiver

6/27/2012 11:44:21 PM

just got my barbarian up to level 60 and experienced my first siegebreaker/azmodan run with 5 stacks of nephalem valor.

....freaking amazing. doubled my DPS

6/28/2012 4:30:48 AM

I looked into the WD Rain of Toads that I've been hearing about. It was pretty decent in terms of damage if I had someone there holding them in one place due to the required buildup. I guess the real power here its its proccing of LoH and freeze/stun/etc.

That might be a fun build, but I can't imagine Blizzard not changing the procs for these things. It really feels like unintended bugs for these abilities to proc the on-hit stuff at 100-200% values for each tick for each mob. Like Zombie Dogs' attacks don't get any proc abilities, but the flaming dog gets 100% proc value for its AE aura? They don't have any survivability, but if 4 of them stacked freeze everything indefinitely, they don't need it.

Seems like this would be awesome, but I feel a nerf-to-the-ground incoming. Not sure I want to drop gold on gear for this.

[Edited on June 28, 2012 at 9:38 AM. Reason : ]

6/28/2012 9:37:56 AM

thx for the link seedless im gonna try out some of his build after work today.

6/28/2012 10:30:42 AM