^^ territory, academic profile, eyeballs, the need to get to 16

What else is he going to say? Of course he is going to deny.

Go read through his timeline, the guy is definitely itk. He has very specific information. He was talking about swoff's gor attempt and UConn voting well before that was remotely public.

11/27/2012 2:56:59 PM

That MHVer3 guy has been right once and wrong about a thousand times. Please stick to legit people on twitter if we are going to post every rumor.

11/27/2012 2:57:49 PM

Fuck off debbie downer

If you dont want to read it, then dont, but we sure as hell can talk about it

[Edited on November 27, 2012 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]

11/27/2012 2:58:21 PM

Downer? That doesn't even make sense. Is this thecavsweb now?

And I'm not saying that as a mod but as a user who hates sifting through the bs. There are plenty of rumors from legitimate connected people out there..

11/27/2012 3:03:21 PM

Quote :

"Ernie is Ovies. Finkle is Einhorn."

Ernie is a man?

11/27/2012 3:06:41 PM

lol

11/27/2012 3:58:05 PM

Quote :

" ACC Files Lawsuit Against Maryland Over Exit Fee Associated Press Associated Press November 27, 2012 GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP) - The Atlantic Coast Conference has filed a lawsuit against Maryland seeking full payment of the approximately $53 million exit fee for its move to the Big Ten. According to the 10-page lawsuit, the ACC said the school must pay $52,266,342, which is three times the league’s annual operating budget for the 2012-13 season. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the lawsuit filed Monday in Guilford County Superior Court. In a statement, Commissioner John Swofford says the ACC’s council of presidents unanimously decided “to file legal action to ensure enforcement of this obligation.” “We continue to extend our best wishes to the University of Maryland; however, there is the expectation that Maryland will fulfill its exit fee obligation,” Swofford said. The league raised its exit fee to roughly $50 million in September after adding Notre Dame in all sports except football. The exit fee is three times the league’s annual operating budget so it could fluctuate from year to year. Maryland was one of two schools that voted against the increased exit fee. Florida State also voted against the increase. Brian Ullmann, Maryland’s assistant vice president for marketing and communications, didn’t immediately return a call for comment Tuesday afternoon. The ACC twice increased its exit fee in the span of a year. The fee was around $12 million to $14 million before the league announced in September 2011 it would add Pittsburgh and Syracuse from the Big East, which led the league to up the fee to $20 million. But Maryland President Wallace D. Loh told The Washington Post he voted against the increase connected to the Notre Dame move because he thought the higher fee was “illegal and philosophically not a good idea.” He also called it an “exit penalty.” Maryland is scheduled to begin Big Ten play in 2014."

11/27/2012 4:23:55 PM

preemptive?

11/27/2012 4:25:37 PM

it begins

If this doesn't stick, then goodbye ACC for sure

[Edited on November 27, 2012 at 4:37 PM. Reason : asdf]

11/27/2012 4:36:54 PM

alright, this shit isn't funny anymore, we need to pair up with VT and get our asses to the SEC, let the ACC become Big East 2.0 and wash our hands of the fiasco and hope UNC has no where to go

11/27/2012 4:46:57 PM

No shit it's an "exit penalty"

11/27/2012 4:53:00 PM

Poor ECU. They finally get into a major conference right after all the good rats have abandoned ship.

C-USA > Big East

11/27/2012 6:59:06 PM

on the SVP show he said that CUSA schools got 700k a year for the CUSA "tv deal", whereas by going to the big east they get 8mill

11/28/2012 12:06:38 AM

Wow. They can put some sweet rims on their truck now.

11/28/2012 12:24:31 AM

And spring for the rubber balls for their trailer hitch

11/28/2012 12:26:55 AM

Looks like Louisville -> ACC is happening in just a few hours.

[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 12:56 AM. Reason : i'm on board with this.]

11/28/2012 12:56:01 AM

screw maryland. ideally, i would like the acc to stay as-is, but maryland can be replaced. several teams are vying to join the conference. i really don't understand the fear of the ACC dissolving.

it's the big east that's ultimately getting screwed...all the good teams will make their way to the other major conferences, and all that will remain are the lesser teams and imports like ECU.

11/28/2012 1:00:38 AM

^Agreed! The ACC isn't going anywhere. It's not the top league in football right now, but it never was anyway. Unless the SEC, Big Ten, and Pac-12 all decide to go to about 20 teams, then there will always be an ACC. Some people are just a little too excited about SEC sports and also can't count.

11/28/2012 1:20:44 AM

^ four 16 team leagues and the ACC likely loses its AQ status eventually. But that isn't happening for a long time.

Louisville is good choice based on recent two sport success and they have a rabid fanbase. ACC no longer cares about academics, which is nice to see, though I'm not sure which of UVa, Duke and UNC voted for all of a sudden. Biggest downside is their tiny TV market (500,000 - ranked 50th in country).

11/28/2012 6:38:36 AM

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8685541/acc-votes-add-louisville-cardinals-source-says

11/28/2012 8:39:13 AM

i really dig the Louisville addition.

11/28/2012 8:50:08 AM

I dig it, but for a different reason. Apparently the ACC pissed the B1G off when we took ND, so they took MD and Rutgers as revenge for us constantly invading their "territory". Louisville is in SEC country, so maybe they'll respond by courting us and VT (its happened before when we "invaded" with GT and FSU, though they did take SCar).

While the ACC is a viable conference and not going anywhere, it may soon be left out of the "Power 5" when it becomes the "Power 4". Either the Big XII or ACC are going to collapse football-wise; with the Pac 12 needing 4 teams, I see the Big XII being the one to eventually collapse, but you never know in this climate. The 3 safe conferences are the B1G, the Pac 1X, and the SEC. I'd rather take my chances with a sure thing.

11/28/2012 8:56:48 AM

Quote :

"ACC no longer cares about academics"

Can you elaborate?

11/28/2012 8:58:28 AM

I don't know that Louisville is "SEC country." It's across the river from Indiana.

^ why? UL is a good athletic program but a terrible academic school. Pretty self explanatory.

11/28/2012 9:08:28 AM

plus they haven't kicked us out yet

11/28/2012 9:09:51 AM

Love adding Louisville. Definitely, IMO, a better addition than UConn.

11/28/2012 9:10:16 AM

Sporting News reporting if Maryland fee is reduced FSU may go.

This will never end

11/28/2012 9:12:17 AM

Quote :

"I don't know that Louisville is "SEC country." It's across the river from Indiana."

Eh, it's in Kentucky, that might be enough.

and if FSU leaves, that's it. Our only "football school" would be Clemson, and they'd leave with FSU (to I'm guessing the Big XII). That leaves UNC and UVA ripe for the B1G, and the rest of us up the creek, except whichever 2 schools the SEC will take. Like I said, it's time for NCSU to be proactive, not reactive. They'd certainly take VT, we just need to be lucky #16.

11/28/2012 9:18:54 AM

time to go stealth mode with fla st and head to the big 12

11/28/2012 9:22:04 AM

I got satisfaction in knowing that the Big East is desolving right when ECU is joining (in football).

They should never be allowed into a legit conference.

11/28/2012 9:31:42 AM

If FSU goes, the dominoes will start to fall. They'll take Clemson with them, B1G will move on UNC once UVA is a done deal. At that point we need to align ourselves with VT so that the SEC would be inclined to take us as a package deal. Miami might bolt also (though to where, I'm not really sure) and the ACC would be left as a good basketball conference with a bunch of football also-rans. (Duke, Syracuse, Pitt, presumably UConn, Wake if they get their shit back in order, etc.)

Though UNC only playing Duke 1x per year, and NCSU not at all some years, would be really bad for basketball as a whole. Tearing apart rivalries like these is the price of football's dominance.

So basically I hope the ACC wins this showdown and FSU stays put. We can easily survive minus UVA if they decide to go. That could lead to ND joining as a football member down the road and the conference's 2-sport relevance would be assured.

11/28/2012 10:06:32 AM

Quote :

"Though UNC only playing Duke 1x per year, and NCSU not at all some years, would be really bad for basketball as a whole. Tearing apart rivalries like these is the price of football's dominance."

i wonder if ESPN carries enough clout to prevent this from happening

11/28/2012 10:10:32 AM

Would they try to prevent it from happening? UNC/Duke isn't what it used to be. Having them play only once a year would give ESPN a better chance to run up their hype machine as a "once a year event!"

[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 10:16 AM. Reason : .]

11/28/2012 10:16:35 AM

Quote :

"UNC/Duke isn't what it used to be"

is this objective fact or just your opinion? its popularity hasn't diminished as far as i know.

11/28/2012 10:25:43 AM

ND just got vindicated and there TV contract is up. That mean NBC will throw $Texas at them. they have a BCS tie-in in the new system and can still make it to the NC game in the new system. I think they even get money if they don't make a bowl or BCS bowl (1 mil, i heard that somewhere could be wrong).

ND will never join in football. they only thing adding ND did was let the big 10 know that ND will never join the BIG10 and so they added Rutgers and MD.

11/28/2012 10:54:21 AM

acc should just bite the bullet and try to pick off a big 12 team despite the contract language regarding revenue. if this is going to be an acc vs. big 12 struggle for survival, acc might as well throw in for a tcu and kansas and beat them to the punch

[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 11:13 AM. Reason : ]

11/28/2012 11:11:58 AM

Quote :

"ND just got vindicated and there TV contract is up."

it's not up til 2015

11/28/2012 11:15:30 AM

What if we went to the Big East?

We'd still be in a competitive basketball conference (Georgetown, Nova, UConn, Marquette, potentially add Xavier) and have football competition better suited to us, plus the natural rivalry with ECU.

I don't care about football greatness. It isn't coming.

11/28/2012 12:24:12 PM

^ GTFO

11/28/2012 1:29:25 PM

you have a fucking Dragon Ball Z user name, shut the fuck up

11/28/2012 1:50:02 PM

^^^

Piss poor troll attempt, piss fucking poor...

[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 2:27 PM. Reason : ^^^]

11/28/2012 2:25:47 PM

^^^^ People only give a shit about basketball because it's better than baseball and doesn't play at the same time as football. I'd probably never even watch another game if we were to go to the Big East. Get the fuck out.

11/28/2012 2:30:51 PM

While I like football, I enjoy basketball season more. But I understand that football is where the money is at.

11/28/2012 2:35:46 PM

Hey guess what?

You're at a basketball school.

11/28/2012 3:13:59 PM

Quote :

"People only give a shit about basketball because it's better than baseball and doesn't play at the same time as football."

just b/c this is how you feel does not mean that it is how everyone feels.

11/28/2012 3:15:28 PM

^

[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 3:19 PM. Reason : m]

11/28/2012 3:18:31 PM

Quote :

"You're at a basketball school."

did you travel back in time 20 years or something

we're a bass fishing school

deal with it

11/28/2012 3:24:19 PM

Quote :

"Kevin Nathan @KevinNathanNBC Sources tell me 4 ACC schools gave UConn support: Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina and Virginia."

Good that we're not voting with that contingent. Hopefully it means we're looking to get out of this donk conference.

11/28/2012 7:13:27 PM

why the fuck do you people think we're leaving the ACC any time soon?

11/28/2012 7:32:47 PM

If anyone goes, I would imagine it would be UNC/UVa to the B1G or FSU/Clemson somewhere... and those are highly unlikely.

Kind of funny that a safety school like Louisville got the bid in large part because UConn is a safety school for the ACC (i.e. - will always be there whenever they want them).

** Didn't realize how small some of the athletic budgets in the ACC are. Clemson, Ga Tech and Maryland were all $20M+ less than Louisville and all even less than UConn.

[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 7:39 PM. Reason : state is dead last in the acc.. wtf]

11/28/2012 7:35:38 PM