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^^^ still huge progress. Within a week they were open with the public, gave multiple statements, gathered enough evidence to see what was plainly obvious, and issued a charge.

None of the months of waiting for a kangaroo grand jury "trial", or outright refusal to charge like in practically every other case.

It's in the hands of a real jury/lawyer/judge now. We'll see how this goes.

9/22/2016 5:34:59 PM

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http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/dc/dc-police-release-body-cam-footage-in-terrence-sterling-shooting/326906155

9/28/2016 10:30:03 PM

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Instead of shitty body cameras cops forget to turn on, why not have a gun camera that requires a camera to be on to shoot? It defeats the purpose of body cameras if it isnt done right.

9/28/2016 10:46:50 PM

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Who's protesting this white 6 year old boy shot by two African American police officers?

I only mention race because it seems to be the driving force in all of the other officer involved shootings. The guardian was fleeing from the marshals in his vehicle. No attempt at arrest, like how many of these incidents start out, then for some stupid reason the guy runs. Kid ends up dead.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/us/louisiana-body-cam-shooting/index.html

I guess this isn't making big headlines because the cops are being charged with murder. But still, no protests? Because here lately, the protests start even before charges are brought up.

[Edited on September 29, 2016 at 9:18 AM. Reason : sadf]

9/29/2016 9:18:20 AM

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You are forgetting that one if the reasons for the protests is that often after these shootings involving black people, the officers name isn't released, an 'investigation ' is fine that yields no wrong doing, and the officers are never even charged.
In the case referenced above, it looks like both officers were charge with 2nd degree attempted murder...

9/29/2016 9:26:28 AM

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But this incident happened a year ago. We don't know how the Marksville officials handled the situation immediately after it happened.

But you can't really bring up charges here, because lately, the protests start before charges can even be thought about.

9/29/2016 10:03:38 AM

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https://twitter.com/OchoBoomin/status/780070400650653696?s=01

9/29/2016 10:19:49 AM

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It is interesting - I see in that twitter feed the same arguments that people use here "he left the police no choice la la la..." But was he even armed? He just ran. So same deal as all the other shootings. Except a 6 year old was caught in the crossfire.

9/29/2016 10:23:14 AM

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you should start a protest. I don't see a problem with it. be sure to dig up the other videos of the other white guys that got shot wrongfully by the police as well.

[Edited on September 29, 2016 at 10:43 AM. Reason : ]

9/29/2016 10:42:25 AM

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^^ It is very interesting that white people seem to be OK with police killing them because there is never an outcry or protest when it happens. Cant blame the media that white people dont seem to give a shit. Media wont cover what isnt going to get clicks/views.

In fact, one could thank BLM and the protests of police brutality against blacks as the driving force behind the increased scrutiny on police departments as a whole.

9/29/2016 11:10:30 AM

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great to see this page is an #AllLivesMatter page

9/29/2016 11:24:00 AM

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Anybody have anything about the El Cajon shooting.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-police-elcajon-idUSKCN11Y0SV
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/us/california-police-shooting/

Gotta say, it sucks that the cops shot this guy but it's completely understandable. The guy was unarmed, but the police got called because he was acting erratically, wandering in traffic, etc.

Police confront him, guy won't take his hands out of his pockets and then takes them out and points something at cops. One his him with a taser, one shoots him. He dies. The stills that have come out make it clear that the guy was pointing something at the cops before he was shot and it certainly looks like the way one would hold a gun.

Rough. Really rough since the guy turned out to be unarmed, but honestly I don't know how the police should have reacted here. The guy was mentally ill, so it's hard to say what his motivations might have been for the way he was acting. Could be a case of suicide by cop, could be somebody who wasn't lucid enough to understand the commands he was given, etc.

[Edited on September 29, 2016 at 11:31 AM. Reason : links]

9/29/2016 11:28:42 AM

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sucks we can't just shoot nets at these guys or use paintball guns that have some sort of sedative to knock them out.

9/29/2016 11:44:47 AM

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Yeah, I mean if knock out gas was a real thing it would be very useful. If instantaneous tranquilizer guns existed we could definitely use those.

Non lethal is a great solution, but unless it also totally immobilizes and keeps people from firing a weapon you still have to give police a firearm if we're going to ask them to deal with citizens who may also be armed.

I'm all for additional police training, having specialized police for dealing with people who may be mentally ill/intoxicated, etc.

We all want the police to be held to a high standard, and rightly so, but we also have to be realistic about what a human being can be expected to do. Maybe the police should be held to a don't fire until fired upon standard, but that carries a whole other basket of problems and would mean a total shift in how policing is done.

9/29/2016 11:57:48 AM

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Perhaps the El Cajon case underscores disparity in training? Why did one cop choose to use a taser and the other cop choose to use lethal force? If the training is rigid, wouldn't both officers choose to subdue using the same method?

And no, this isn't an all lives matter page. As a matter of fact, I don't think I've ever used that stupid twitter handle. No I'm just pointing out a disparity. I mean shit for most of these cases I tend to agree with BLM. Not their demands, but regarding how things could have been done differently.

9/29/2016 12:08:23 PM

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^That is very true. And I think all of us need to remember that. Police are people too. People fuck up.

But the problem arises when they are (sometimes against their will) held above the law.
nobody should be immune to the effects of fucking up.
Except secretaries of state. Only racists would hold a woman accountable for her actions.

[Edited on September 29, 2016 at 12:09 PM. Reason : edit]

9/29/2016 12:09:24 PM

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9/29/2016 12:15:25 PM

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^^There might be a perfectly good reason one had a taser out and the other had a gun. Might be standard training protocol for partner work that one person to be prepared with lethal force and one with non lethal in order to have a proper response depending on the actions of the person being confronted.

I don't know police training but it does seem fairly common for one person to cover the other or for pairs to be ready with proportional response based on the subjects behavior.

9/29/2016 12:15:52 PM

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how many cases are there of non-lethal methods not working? how many cops have been killed AFTER using a tazer/rubber bullets/etc.? that's something to look into.

9/29/2016 1:24:49 PM

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"^^ It is very interesting that white people seem to be OK with police killing them because there is never an outcry or protest when it happens. Cant blame the media that white people dont seem to give a shit. Media wont cover what isnt going to get clicks/views. "


Or because they haven't been brainwashed to think they are part of some "2016 victimhood collective" so they don't view anecdotal accidents as "evidence of oppression".

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"In fact, one could thank BLM and the protests of police brutality against blacks as the driving force behind the increased scrutiny on police departments as a whole.
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Yea, I guess we should all thank Soros for those riots and cop killings. BLM sure is doing some great divisive race-baiting. When I read their list of demands, first thing I think of is "inclusive" eh SJWs? #reparations #freeshit #perpetualvictims

9/29/2016 1:42:37 PM

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I wonder this is true....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/09/30/do-not-resist-a-chilling-look-at-the-normalization-of-warrior-cops/

[Edited on October 1, 2016 at 6:03 PM. Reason : ]

10/1/2016 6:02:39 PM

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The cop in the shooting death of Philando Castille is being charged with 2nd degree manslaughter. Furthermore, investigation revealed he never reached for or attempted to remove the legal firearm deep in his pocket

11/16/2016 12:59:40 PM

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So he basically shot the guy for telling him he had a legal firearm, which the law requires. One would think the pro-gun republicans would be all over this since it is a blatant assault on legal gun ownership, but since the victim is black there will be no response.

11/16/2016 1:01:56 PM

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well luckily the NRA has been pretty vocal about defending Castille for exercising his right

11/16/2016 1:08:22 PM

dtownral
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and i was kidding in my last post

of course the NRA didn't come to his defense, the dude is black

11/17/2016 8:53:21 AM

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thank you, captain obvious.

11/17/2016 2:30:32 PM

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If this guy from Charleston gets a mistrial and eventually gets off it is fucking pathetic.

If this guy isn't convicted of murder cops can essentially mow anyone down they want because scared.

12/2/2016 6:12:41 PM

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^ yah u know that shit is coming tho

12/3/2016 8:30:34 AM

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Sounds like there is one juror that can't be convinced that Slager is guilty. Apparently, video evidence isn't enough for them.

12/3/2016 9:09:41 AM

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Surprised no one has pointed out how they took in the guy in the pizza shop in DC alive, even after he fired a shot.

And the guy just had to be from NC.

12/5/2016 12:41:52 PM

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A fucking mistrial in the Walter Scott shooting

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/12/05/mistrial-declared-in-case-of-south-carolina-officer-who-shot-walter-scott-after-traffic-stop/?utm_term=.2baaa3b08c20

12/5/2016 3:51:22 PM

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It's open season boys. Go get you some darkies!

(God damn that is unbelievable)

12/5/2016 3:57:54 PM

rjrumfel
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Anybody have the details on the makeup of the jury?

That is pretty incredible, in a bad way.

12/5/2016 4:04:43 PM

thegoodlife3
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11 of the jurors were white

[Edited on December 5, 2016 at 4:20 PM. Reason : just read the story]

12/5/2016 4:19:43 PM

scotieb24
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Wow, apparently one juror wouldn't convict him

12/5/2016 4:34:44 PM

afripino
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it was the rural juror

12/5/2016 4:59:25 PM

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Nothing to see here folks:

http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/mom-says-neighbor-choked-son-fort-worth-police-show-up-mom-gets-arrested-9017537

12/22/2016 2:49:45 PM

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I guess BLM doesn't give a shit about Hispanics being shot by the police.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article128920384.html


Granted, if the story turns out to be true, the guy that got shot was a dumbass. Then again, it's not like he knew he was being followed by a cop, since it was an undercover agent in an unmarked car who, for some insane reason, decided to pursue what amounts to a traffic stop. No body cameras, so we'll just have to trust the police on this one...

1/26/2017 11:46:23 PM

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^did you not read the whole article?

1/26/2017 11:52:09 PM

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That's not his strong suit.

[Edited on January 26, 2017 at 11:58 PM. Reason : He's more of a porn consumer apologist who wants someone to pay attention to his junk]

1/26/2017 11:56:26 PM

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ummm, yeah?

1/26/2017 11:56:46 PM

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That lady cop with the itchy trigger finger was acquitted in the shooting death of that unarmed motorist in Tulsa, OK.

5/18/2017 11:00:46 AM

thegoodlife3
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looks like her 60 Minutes interview paid off

just awful

5/18/2017 11:18:23 AM

afripino
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what a bitch

[Edited on May 18, 2017 at 11:23 AM. Reason : are we really surprised at this point, though?]

5/18/2017 11:22:38 AM

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No one should be surprised. Just pointing out how minorities are repeatedly told to place their faith in a system which routinely betrays them.

5/18/2017 11:39:08 AM

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I don't have the link but did everyone see the video of that guy standing still, in cuffs, cop calmly pulls out his taser and hits him, then once more on the ground. Just gross.

Dude got administrative leave or something, still a cop

[Edited on May 18, 2017 at 2:50 PM. Reason : Rrr]

Here it is, forgot it's the same department that shot the kid in the car a few weeks back
http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/marco-stephenson-balch-springs-police-officers-cops-taser-handcuffed-black-man-video-youtube-full/



[Edited on May 18, 2017 at 2:53 PM. Reason : Link]

5/18/2017 2:49:49 PM

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that fat cop should be charged for assault

5/18/2017 3:52:18 PM

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" are we really surprised at this point, though?"


Not in the least. They rarely get charged for this shit, and when they do they nearly always get off.

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"I don't have the link but did everyone see the video of that guy standing still, in cuffs, cop calmly pulls out his taser and hits him, then once more on the ground. Just gross.

Dude got administrative leave or something, still a cop"


Yeah it's fucking disgusting. Then of course they use his rap sheet as justification for why it was ok.
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"Haber also put the blame on Stephenson, who appeared to be complying with the officers and was being restrained in handcuffs and by two officers when he was hit with the stun gun.

“He’s been handled 37 times through Dallas County — 37 offenses,” the police chief told the news station. “He’s been arrested or booked into the Dallas County Jail 17 times. He’s been booked in through our facility 19 times and I think 33 separate offenses.”"


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"Haber said the sergeant’s actions were questioned by his officers and it was referred to the Texas Rangers, Professional Standards and the Dallas County District Attorney’s Public Integrity Unit.

“We looked at it. At the end of the day, they did the right thing. They brought it to our attention,” Haber said. “We decided together that this was an administrative issue, not a criminal issue.”

Haber said the sergeant received a reprimand was put on a “no contact with the public” order until he completed classes on conflict resolution, anti-bias and how to deal with mental health calls"


Without the cams this wouldn't have ever been known, so at least they're working in that respect? Right?

[Edited on May 18, 2017 at 4:09 PM. Reason : ]

5/18/2017 4:03:23 PM

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so how many anecdotes until this is a trend?

5/18/2017 4:17:18 PM

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Anecdotes support narratives, not trends. You've had your narrative for awhile because you are looking for reasons to be #Outraged or feel like a #Victim

That's why you peruse media that only provides anecdotes that support the narratives you want.

Trends rely on looking at every case and analyzing the totality of incidents, but that quickly destroys the narrative of racial victimhood that the left strives for, so we just let emotional anecdotes get us emotional so we can post on social media about how upset we are!

5/18/2017 4:40:17 PM

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