well yeah, but I didnt give a shit about State then, so I am saying like in the last decade or so

8/16/2012 4:44:27 PM

they are about to start talking about Purvis on 99.9 / wralsportsfan.com

8/16/2012 4:55:42 PM

Suddenly we're unranked

[Edited on August 16, 2012 at 5:36 PM. Reason : Not really but this is some bullshit]

8/16/2012 5:34:25 PM

Jeff Gravely basically said that NCSU told Purvis not to go to class because if he goes and the clearinghouse says that Upper Room's core classes are not acceptable, then he would become a non-qualifier and would not be able to play for state for a couple years (he would have to transfer to a JUCO then come back if he really wanted to stick with the Pack).

This is all on Upper Room, Purvis took the classes he should've taken, Upper Room just has to prove that those core classes are comparable to other accredited schools core classes.

There could be something REALLY bad with Upper Rooms classes (i.e. they are not acceptable by the NCAA) in which case Purvis' junior and senior years of high school are almost non-existent. OR, the good side could be that Upper Room just didnt realize how strict the NCAA's regulations and formwork was and they just need to go back and dot the i's and cross the t's. I really really hope its the latter, Purvis is too good a kid to have the rug pulled out from under him like this.

Gravely also commented that the NCAA could rule as soon as tomorrow or Monday in which case this is all a bad dream. NC State could also try to file some for of waiver/appeal to the NCAA and let Pruvis start classes while they conduct their investigation, but if he winds up being ruled ineligible Purvis/NCSU are in trouble

fucked up situation

8/16/2012 6:43:41 PM

8/16/2012 6:53:11 PM

I thought the Ncaa didnt have anything to do with academics?

/UNC

8/16/2012 6:56:14 PM

The NCAA is the regulating body for high schools, not colleges. Duh.

8/16/2012 6:58:34 PM

At least I have faith that our AD is on the phone yelling at the NCAA/URCA/whomever to get their stuff together.

8/16/2012 7:00:52 PM

fuck everything

8/16/2012 7:52:50 PM

boycott da ncaa

8/16/2012 8:38:06 PM

could he not go to hargrave for a year like Lorenzo and others have done?

i mean, i guess with a guy like him, if he's somewhere else for a year, he's likely entering the draft the following year...

8/16/2012 9:09:16 PM

can we hack his high school transcript?

8/16/2012 9:17:09 PM

so nothings actually happened yet, right? Why are people jumping overboard?

8/16/2012 10:38:49 PM

Because athletes have to attend class and do schoolwork at state?

8/16/2012 11:00:17 PM

so he misses the syllabus day. so what. athletes miss class all the time for games and trips.

8/17/2012 2:55:05 AM

Send your children to real schools, people!

8/17/2012 9:05:08 AM

Quote :

"i mean, i guess with a guy like him, if he's somewhere else for a year, he's likely entering the draft the following year..."

i know it doesn't mean much, but purvis was the one who said he definitely wanted to get his degree and stuff first right?

8/17/2012 9:14:53 AM

Quote :

"could he not go to hargrave for a year like Lorenzo and others have done? "

depends on how many 'core' classes he is missing.

if there are 2 years worth that the NCAA finds unacceptable, he would either have to go to a school that accepts non-qualifiers or JUCO.

8/17/2012 9:23:06 AM

Quote :

"This is all on Upper Room, Purvis took the classes he should've taken, Upper Room just has to prove that those core classes are comparable to other accredited schools core classes. "

You would think the high school has to get accredidation with the state before it even opens. Like it has to be legit and get approval before it starts.

So if they submitted their course outlines to the state and say "here's our class offerings". And now the school is being reviewed since they have their first graduating class to make sure they actually conducted their classes the way they said they were going to?

8/17/2012 9:43:10 AM

Quote :

"i know it doesn't mean much, but purvis was the one who said he definitely wanted to get his degree and stuff first right?"

He never said anything about "first". He just said he wants to graduate from State.

8/17/2012 9:49:28 AM

So is it safe to say that we suck again?

8/17/2012 12:42:58 PM

^get that shit outta here.

we return 4 of our 5 starters and will at least have 2 capable freshman coming in.

8/17/2012 12:47:02 PM

So what about all the other people that graduated along with Purvis...are these random kids not allowed to attend class at whatever university they are at because the validity of their high school diploma is being questioned? Was there any other Division 1 athletes that graduated with Purvis and are they allowed to play there sports at their respective school?

8/17/2012 1:29:42 PM

I'm going to try to remain optimistic that he will be cleared. But in the interest of conversation, what would our starting lineup look like if he couldn't play? It's a big blow to be sure because, while positions don't matter as much in college bball, we don't really have anyone to even marginally replace him at that position, much less create off the bounce and slash to the rim like him.

We could potentially be left with no one to play 2 guard along side Brown. (Imagine last year with no CJ Williams. Although we have experience coming back and more talent coming in.) Lewis and Brown together? While we would have probably spent some time with this back court combination to give Rodney some rest, I don't like it at all. It basically becomes the Brown/Johnson combo from last year, except we would use it as our primary back court lineup. I honestly want to minimize any kind of combination where Brown isn't full time at PG. This is his year to be one of the best PG in the nation and we don't want him spending much of his time in any sort of hybrid role imo.

This has been proposed before, but would you slide Wood to the 2? I think we've all come to a reasonable consensus that this would not be the best idea. Wood is a 3pt specialist and will likely be nothing more, and I'm okay with that. Sure, he may develop some sort of consistent dribble penetration and pull up jumper this year but I'm not really holding my breath. That doesn't even touch on his ability or inability to guard opposing teams 2s. We've argued that ad nauseum as well.

So, I'm just kinda scratching my head a little. I'm not sure what we would resort to. It would be nice if at least Ralston Turner were eligible this year. At least we have TJ Warren coming in who has shown a lot of promise to potentially be a solid contributor this year.

Hopefully, this will all be made irrelevant in the next few days and Rodney will be going to class and suiting up for us this season.

8/17/2012 1:30:51 PM

Yep, Wood would have to help out in the backcourt. Or Lewis and Brown. Could definitely have used Jaqwan if RP doesn't make it

fwiw, take it with a large grain of salt (i don't even know who NCStateFootball is, it's probably silly to even post this) nm, probably completely unreliable, but NCStateFootball tweeted that staff thinks RP will be cleared tonight, but RP isn't as confident.


[Edited on August 17, 2012 at 1:57 PM. Reason : ]

8/17/2012 1:33:09 PM

Positions don't matter on offense. But on D, we absolutely need a 2-guard who can stay in front of the opposition's top perimeter scorer, like CJ Williams did for us last year.

Scott Wood will never be that guy, which is why he is such a liability in the SG role.

8/17/2012 1:37:21 PM

thank god. let the ncstate shit happen on the court please

8/17/2012 1:38:17 PM

8/17/2012 1:39:10 PM

that twitter account isn't affiliated w/ the school...wonder who his source is.

8/17/2012 1:40:47 PM

Hasn't Jaqwan transferred?

8/17/2012 1:41:23 PM

yes

8/17/2012 1:42:26 PM

pretty sure that twitter account is EVroccck

8/17/2012 1:45:38 PM

yeah conflicting sources on twitter:

Some say he'll be cleared as early as tonight, some say that nothing but bad information is coming out.

8/17/2012 2:19:54 PM

Gold is saying we're fucked on Purvis playing this year. ibt[RAWR RAWR RAWR GOLD SUCKS MY DIRTY ASSHOLE WHAT DOES HE KNOW]

8/17/2012 3:11:53 PM

Don't worry guys, we still got Staats Battle!

8/17/2012 3:17:26 PM

I swear we've had a starting guard miss extended time for like 15 years straight.

8/17/2012 3:20:49 PM

Expectations

8/17/2012 3:38:33 PM

^^ Harrow, Farnold Degand, Johnny Thomas, Engin Atsur, Levi Watkins

can't remember if Bennerman was ever out

[Edited on August 17, 2012 at 4:19 PM. Reason : not a starter]

8/17/2012 3:50:19 PM

^Wood last year
Tony Bethel was out on that team.

8/17/2012 4:02:21 PM

How does this happen if the school is accredited?

8/17/2012 4:04:53 PM

Johnny Thomas was definitely a starting guard.

8/17/2012 4:08:29 PM

He was a champion in the classroom

8/17/2012 4:44:27 PM

Quote :

"How does this happen if the school is accredited?"

Because the NCAA has a set of standards that is separate from the standards used by accreditation agencies.

I don't feel like looking it up, but I'm relatively sure you could, for example, graduate from Broughton with straight A's but be ineligible to participate in NCAA sports.

[Edited on August 17, 2012 at 8:07 PM. Reason : .]

8/17/2012 8:04:46 PM

i have nothing new to add.. but this fucking sucks.

8/17/2012 8:19:49 PM

Quote :

" Levi Watkins"

NOT A GUARD

8/17/2012 8:52:44 PM

I think we can still do well this year with Lewis and Warren coming in...

8/17/2012 9:15:50 PM

from page 1 to page 48

8/17/2012 9:17:42 PM

*chirp chirp*

8/19/2012 9:33:45 PM

^^ i almost snorted

8/20/2012 6:36:35 AM

has anyone emailed ya girl debbie to see what's up?

8/20/2012 12:04:03 PM