oh ok, i just knew they didn't get to do pre-draft workouts and things like they do before the NBA draft.

so it's not like there is any reason to declare for the draft unless you are going to leave.

1/3/2012 1:52:50 PM

Quote :

"We lose TJ Graham, Jay Smith, George Bryan, Quentin Payton and Steven Howard from the receiving corps."

Payton was a redshirt sophomore this year. He'll be back next season and start with Palmer. Underwood and Flowers will rotate in, and Maurice Morgan will appear occasionally as well. We'll probably need one true freshman to skip a redshirt year and play immediately for depth reasons. I'm guessing it to be between James Summers and Charlie Hegedus.

1/3/2012 2:27:12 PM

Judging from what I’ve seen/read, Hegedus is legit. Hope we can hold onto him (I think UGA was starting to show interest … or maybe it was GT).

Palmer and Underwood will be good next year, and Payton gives us a tall target. Wonder if we’ll move one of the RBs to WR? With Greene back next year, it might make sense to move Washington or Creecy to WR. I know Creecy was listed as a WR when we were recruiting him. He’s got great hands, though doesn’t seem to pass the look test and doesn’t have great speed.

1/3/2012 2:45:15 PM

I could see Rashard Smith moving to WR next year.

1/3/2012 2:52:52 PM

Quote :

"i'm pretty sure if he declares there is no withdrawing your name."

I thought there was a way you could declare, meet with a few teams to they can give you a feel for what your draft position would be or what you're currently lacking that you need to work on, and then withdraw from the draft if you want to spend another year developing.

Doesn't matter in this case though, since he's got an agent. I hope it works out for him.

[Edited on January 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM. Reason : That could just be the January 18th deadline mentioned on the last page]

1/3/2012 3:11:21 PM

not sure what kind of credibility this site has but :

Quote :

"Illinois / NC State: Yesterday we were told by two sources that Jon Tenuta had accepted the defensive coordinator position on Tim Beckman's staff. Late last night and this morning we were informed (and have confirmed) that NC State made a very strong attempt (the word "lucrative" was used twice) to retain him yesterday. We'll keep you posted. "

http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop

1/3/2012 3:23:57 PM

+credibility to debbie for putting the money out there to keep him

1/3/2012 3:27:27 PM

...and Manning is going to the NFL.

1/4/2012 1:00:58 AM

...and Tenuta is going to Illinois

1/4/2012 1:29:15 AM

...and audie cole is graduating...not looking forward to LBs next year...hope they prove me wrong

1/4/2012 9:15:13 AM

fuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I knew having a guy who's been a very accomplished DC as an assistant DC/LB coach would come back to bite us. I wish we wouldve just named Tenuta DC

also, the news about Manning really hurts, good thing some of our young guys got experience this year

1/4/2012 9:19:13 AM

Losing Tenuta may be a huge hit to our defense; sure our defense improved a lot compared to past seasons and were damn good once healthy, but Archer doesn't have a good record and the only times an Archer defense has looked decent or better was with Tenuta

[Edited on January 4, 2012 at 9:42 AM. Reason : .]

1/4/2012 9:42:26 AM

Thanks for that refreshingly original take, wd.

1/4/2012 9:48:32 AM

From http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=597427&page=17

Quote :

"CHAMPAIGN, Ill. - After being named to the Illinois football staff Tuesday, Jon Tenuta had a change of heart and said Wednesday that he will now remain at North Carolina State for family reasons. "From the top, I want to say that Illinois is a great program and I think the world of Tim Beckman," Tenuta said. "I've known Beck for 20 years and I have no doubt that with the staff he is putting together, he will have Illinois at the top of the Big Ten very soon. However, my family comes first and I may have made a decision without fully thinking through the situation with them. My son is a senior in high school and has signed a letter of intent to play baseball at N.C. State, and it is something I just don't want to miss. I was one of the first people to contact Beck and congratulate him on the opportunity at Illinois, and I wish him and the Illini nothing but the best.""

1/4/2012 4:37:18 PM

I just saw this on PP, not sure if it's true

Quote :

"Note that of all active head coaches the one with the most players he coached in college playing in the Super Bowl is TOB (6 players)."

1/30/2012 11:02:05 AM

TOB has more former players in the Super Bowl than any active coach

There, now it's easily understandable

1/30/2012 11:14:52 AM

I believe it, but only because Heather Dinich posted something recently about BC having the biggest representation in the Suberbowl.

Not that TOB has anything to do with this part, but I found it interesting that both team owners also went to BC.

1/30/2012 11:16:55 AM

Yeah, I said it was from PP.

1/30/2012 11:17:34 AM

Quote :

"Kraft attended Brookline High School in his hometown, graduating in 1959.[2] He is a 1963 graduate of Columbia University, which he attended on scholarship, and received an MBA from Harvard Business School in 1965. "

1/30/2012 11:20:32 AM

Fuck BC. Only thing we should care about is that this game has more prominent players from UMASS, Southern Illinois, Kent State, Chadron State, and Marshall than TOB has ever produced.

1/30/2012 11:20:59 AM

Lost lifelong state fan recruit to UNC:

-1000

1/30/2012 12:29:38 PM

Being honest with a recruit and letting the kid know that his chances of playing QB are slim:

+1005

1/30/2012 12:31:30 PM

If he was truly a lifelong State fan, he would not have gone to UNC.

1/30/2012 1:52:38 PM

Quote :

"Lost lifelong state fan recruit to UNC:"

I thought this wasn't true. Just seems to be some story made up when the kid said he "liked State more than UNC" in an interview.

1/30/2012 1:55:39 PM

did he lose another one, or are yall still talking about Sammers? FUCK PAGE

1/30/2012 4:46:22 PM

last thing i saw on here i think was that Jarnor Jones could be leaving for Kentucky......not sure if that was confirmed or not

1/30/2012 4:47:56 PM

I don't think that's confirmed. Hooker was asking everyone on twitter last night to follow him because he was also #wolfpacknation

Quote :

"did he lose another one, or are yall still talking about Sammers? FUCK PAGE"

Yes, they were talking about SUMMERS.

[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2012 4:51:43 PM

sad thing is, I know it's with a U. FUCK PAGE

1/30/2012 5:09:52 PM

Quote :

"I thought there was a way you could declare, meet with a few teams to they can give you a feel for what your draft position would be or what you're currently lacking that you need to work on, and then withdraw from the draft if you want to spend another year developing. "

you can declare for the draft, but not hire an agent, and still remain eligible if you remove your name from the draft by a certain point. Like you said, a lot of people do it to get an idea of where they'll go in the draft. If it's too low they'll come back to college another year.

1/30/2012 5:46:18 PM

Please tell me who has done that? The date to withdraw is way before pro days or anything else of the such. There is no advantage to doing that in football as there is in basketball. people can tell a player where they think he'd be drafted without declaring for the draft.

Anyways, the withdrawal date is like 3 days after the deadline to declare, which was 2 weeks ago.

[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 7:01 PM. Reason : Shut up]

1/30/2012 6:56:57 PM

jesus, the media bashing continues

Quote :

"There might not be a greater slight in all of sports than a blue-chip prospect leaving behind his home-state program. There's certainly nothing more infuriating to a rabid fan base. Just ask Florida and Florida State fans how they feel about losing the Sunshine State's No. 1 and 2 recruits, WR Eddie Williams (Panama City) and S Travis Blanks (Tallahassee), to Alabama and Clemson, respectively. Of course, the Gators and Seminoles don't have much trouble keeping elite ESPNU 150 prospects from bolting their borders. The two schools have combined to sign 60 out of a possible 147 elite in-state recruits from 2007-11 (lump in the Miami Hurricanes' 22 and that's 56 percent of ESPNU 150 Florida recruits remaining in Florida). But some schools just can't fend off intruders fast enough. When ESPN The Magazine and RecruitingNation poured over the past five years of ESPNU 150 rankings (750 total recruits), these 10 BCS programs stood out as the worst at capitalizing on elite homegrown talent. 1. Arizona Wildcats Zero of 12 in-state ESPNU 150 recruits Top program in Arizona from 2007-11: USC (four signees) Arizona has signed just two ESPNU 150 recruits over the past five years, and neither DE Apaiata Tuihalamaka (Gardena, Calif.) nor TE Rob Gronkowski (Pittsburgh) was a home-state product. While the Trojans have had the most success here, Arizona State was at least able to land two preps within its state borders. Last year, the state's top prospect (OT Christian Westerman of Chandler) signed with Auburn. In 2012, all eyes in Tucson are on the nation's top ATH Davonte Neal (Scottsdale), who's still considering the Wildcats and would certainly kick start Rich Rodriguez's tenure. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 2-of-74, 2.7 percent Top program in Georgia: Georgia (22) Neither of the Yellow Jackets' in-state ESPNU 150 signees (RB Jonathan Dwyer of Marietta and WR Morgan Burnett of College Park) was brought in by current coach Paul Johnson, whose lone elite recruit was 2011 ATH Vad Lee (Durham, N.C.). Over the last five years, Alabama and Auburn have combined for 10 blue-chip preps out of the Peach State, while Florida and Florida State have combined to sign nine. Don't expect Johnson to land any ESPNU150 preps from Georgia (or any other state) in 2012. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Stanford Cardinal 2-of-73, 2.7 percent Top program in California: USC (32) We gave Stanford props for its ability to go out of state to sign top prospects, but there's no ignoring the program's inability to create an elite pipeline in its state. (Meanwhile, UCLA has signed 12 in-state ESPNU 150 recruits over the last five years.) Sure, Cardinal fans can blame their program's struggles on academic constraints, but out of 73 players, surely more than two could qualify. In 2012, David Shaw doesn't have a single ESPNU 150 commit from California -- USC currently has four and UCLA has two -- but No. 4 OT Kyle Murphy (San Clemente) still has Stanford on his short list. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. California Golden Bears 4-of-73, 5.5 percent Top program in California: USC (32) We could make the same knock against the Golden Bears over the last five years, but Jeff Tedford has nearly matched his 2007-11 total in 2012. Cal is close to signing three of the state's top eight prospects, including the nation's No. 3 S Shaq Thompson (Sacramento). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. North Carolina State Wolfpack 2-of-24, 8.3 percent Top program in North Carolina: North Carolina (seven) In terms of recruiting, we're as perplexed with the Wolfpack's lack of production as we are with Georgia Tech's. Two ACC programs that can't sign top local talent? (OK, make that four. Duke nor Wake Forest has signed a single ESPNU 150 prospect from any state, so we didn't bother ranking them.) Clemson, Georgia and South Carolina have gone in to North Carolina and lifted a combined eight prospects over the last five years -- even Cal grabbed two. This year, the state's five ESPNU 150 recruits are committed to Georgia (one), Florida (two) and Clemson (two). "

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7519381/stanford-auburn-worst-landing-state-recruits-cfb?addata=2012=insider_fpimod_CookWorstISrecruiters_xxx

[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 9:41 PM. Reason : v]

1/30/2012 9:40:17 PM

How is that bashing? Seems like a fair point.

1/30/2012 10:06:20 PM

i just meant that ESPN's been on our ass lately, usually this goes unnoticed

[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 10:12 PM. Reason : .]

1/30/2012 10:12:15 PM

^agreed. If we wouldn't have lots Summer (who stayed in-state) not mentioned of us in the write up. We also (fingers cross) stole a great recruit out of GA

Maybe it seems like Bashing even tho its true.

but why not write about Duke or Wake or North Carolina or EZU. no one in NC is able to keep the great players in the State.

which sucks. maybe if we can win 8-10 for a few years we can get younger kids that grow up wanting to go to State instead of Bama, LSU, USC (both).

anyway Roll PACK!!

[Edited on January 30, 2012 at 10:18 PM. Reason : sa]

1/30/2012 10:16:19 PM

For a lot of kids in this state, love for a certain school starts with college basketball, not college football.

Hell, I was a UNC fan for most of my pre-college life because of George Lynch, Jerry Stackhouse, Vince Carter, etc (and I'm sure I'm not the only one on here). I cheered for the football team because the damn basketball team sucked me in.

Sounds counter-intuitive, but winning on the bball court will help us with in-state football recruiting. (of course, winning in football will help us too...)

1/30/2012 10:37:14 PM

Quote :

"Boston College & Super Bowl XLVI Name Position Team Jack Bicknell, Jr. assistant offensive line coach NY Giants Will Blackmon cornerback NY Giants Ron Brace defensive end New England Patriots Tom Coughlin head coach NY Giants DuJuan Daniels area scout New England Patriots Brian Flores defensive assistant coach New England Patriots Mark Herzlich linebacker NY Giants Jerald Ingram running backs coach NY Giants Mathias Kiwanuka defensive end NY Giants Robert Kraft chairman, chief executive officer New England Patriots Dan Koppen center New England Patriots Chris Mara senior vice president of player evaluation NY Giants John Mara, Esq. president, chief executive officer NY Giants Jerry Palmieri strength and conditioning coach NY Giants Sean Ryan wide receivers coach NY Giants Chris Snee guard NY Giants"

She must have gotten her facts wrong...but that also does not surprise me.

[Edited on January 31, 2012 at 12:55 AM. Reason : -]

1/31/2012 12:51:53 AM

Quote :

" but why not write about Duke or Wake or North Carolina or EZU. no one in NC is able to keep the great players in the State. "

Because we're better than all those programs (and ECU isn't in a BCS conference). Plus...UNC has actually gotten some of those top recruits...and done absolutely dick with them.

1/31/2012 7:40:51 AM

LOL at mention of the two that went to Cal. Shady ass dealings with the high school coach from what I remember to get Keenan Allen and another guy out there.

1/31/2012 9:40:35 AM

I figured this should go in here as well

Quote :

"Tom Lemming about TOB's recruiting "I've always felt, when you were at Boston College and now at NC State, your staff has to be among the top 3 when it comes to evaluating ball players""

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/34613062

1/31/2012 5:19:51 PM

That's a nice compliment, Lemming is pretty well respected in the recruit-ranking business. And he doesn't like the whole star system, thinks it's "such an inexact science", just participates because it's part of the business.

1/31/2012 7:24:13 PM

-100 for continuing to lose recruits an having one of the worst classes in the ACC

[Edited on January 31, 2012 at 11:33 PM. Reason : It may be thr worst one weve had in 10-15 years]

1/31/2012 11:26:54 PM

^^^

-100 for not having the TOB arm-crossing pose even once during that interview.

1/31/2012 11:39:21 PM

^^ But because he's one of the best "talent evaluators", it bumps the class into the top half of the ACC...probably top 5. DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?!?!?!?

2/1/2012 7:27:29 AM

we just lost another big recruit...

Quote :

" Kenderius Whitehead Defensive End 6-5, 210 Monroe, GA View Full Profile What about the rumors that DE Kenderius Whitehead may flip from NC State to Clemson? They are true. And to make things even more interesting, the defensive end from ML King also had a letter-of-intent from UGA. “The thing is Mike, you never know,” ML King coach Mike Carson told the AJC. “Everybody sent in the LOI. He’s trying to figure it out right. My gut tells me he’s probably going to sign with Clemson. We’ll have to see.” Whitehead will make his announcement live at 9:30 on AJC on a webcast. Check back for updates."

another HUGE loss.



[Edited on February 1, 2012 at 8:39 AM. Reason : .]

2/1/2012 8:33:48 AM

Some people on "Other" boards are saying the High school coach is out of the loop.

also Whitehead tweeted #Wolfpack Nation this morning. that be a huge slap in the face if he does switch.

2/1/2012 8:47:26 AM

What the hell is going on?

2/1/2012 9:08:28 AM

basically, everyone just needs to click

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/02/01/kenderius-whitehead-may-flip-from-nc-state-to-clemson-and-has-uga-loi/

at 9:30am to see what the hell Whitehead is actually doing.

2/1/2012 9:09:11 AM

ha,h maybe the coach is pulling the same stunt that that Alabama guy's mom did with LSU. or was it the other way around?

2/1/2012 9:24:06 AM

FML

2/1/2012 9:25:29 AM

OH MY GOD ITS 9:29

2/1/2012 9:29:02 AM