^yeah i'd read that his mom and family were hoping he'd choose state and stay close to home. obviously they didnt get their way

11/19/2015 7:38:50 AM

"Do you want to play for National Championships or lose to William & Mary?"

- text from Calipari to Bam that helped flip him to UK, according to some rando on PP.

Just a ruthless, savage power move by Calapari, if true. Gotta give him credit, that text is perfect.

11/19/2015 7:50:02 AM

Raleigh is such a better city than Lexington though.

11/19/2015 8:09:30 AM

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"^yeah i'd read that his mom and family were hoping he'd choose state and stay close to home. obviously they didnt get their way "

The mom is going to move to Kentucky now.

11/19/2015 8:58:31 AM

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""Do you want to play for National Championships or lose to William & Mary?""

I mean, if I were a coach, this is exactly what I would say to someone. Nothing untrue and gets the point across in a very simple way.

11/19/2015 9:11:46 AM

the thing is that these days young, elite recruits don't give a shit about college. they know they're headed for the NBA and it's all about whichever is the best conduit to get them maximum visibility and maximum hype.

11/19/2015 9:39:00 AM

well, i mean if my career path involved playing professional basketball, i would probably be the same way.

11/19/2015 10:05:02 AM

FWIW, Gott has made the tourney the past four years. Cal can't say that.

11/19/2015 11:16:27 PM

^ I think Cal could probably come up with a good rebuttal to that argument.

[Edited on November 20, 2015 at 12:51 AM. Reason : Gottfried to Bam: "you wanna play for some chump who went to the NIT one year or the guy with 4 NCAAT appearances and two sweet sixteens? Yeah that's what I thought"]

[Edited on November 20, 2015 at 12:52 AM. Reason : ...]

11/20/2015 12:51:40 AM

Any more PackPride posters who have hacked Calipari's text messages? I heard Obama influenced Bam's decision.

11/20/2015 1:57:40 AM

At least we didn't react like this guy...

https://m.soundcloud.com/theforumwithjohnnabors/mike-irwins-reaction-to-malik-monk-signing

11/20/2015 9:20:25 AM

If that text from Calipari is real I guess that's fine


But we probably wouldn't lose to William and Mary if we had better players

11/20/2015 9:47:43 AM

Yeah would have been easy for Gott to respond, "I didn't make the NIT with a roster of 5* players."

11/20/2015 2:03:51 PM

it doesn't really matter anymore. What happened against WandM was embarrassing, and you can't expect a teenager that is making a life-changing decision to sit back and be rational about it.

11/20/2015 2:17:23 PM

Do you really think that one loss is the reason Kentucky beat us out for a recruit? He knows what NC State is its not like he thought we were a top 5 program and then saw the W&L loss and then did more research.

This kid has stayed interested in us all the way through despite some other bad losses too. The kid picked Kentucky, there aren't many others out there that wouldn't have done the same time to move on.

11/20/2015 2:34:39 PM

He picked Kentucky because it took awhile for some students to fill the seats in the 3rd quarter of the Clemson football game on Halloween

[Edited on November 20, 2015 at 2:51 PM. Reason : because we're still getting out of TOB's mess]

11/20/2015 2:50:56 PM

^^what he said.

11/20/2015 3:01:53 PM

We can still hope an NBA team backs a truck up to calipari's house and he's dumb enough to take it

11/20/2015 3:11:14 PM

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"Do you really think that one loss is the reason Kentucky beat us out for a recruit? "

No, I am arguing that it was certainly more than "just one loss". It was a game against a mediocre opponent that we were supposed to give a supreme shit push-in, instead we were the ones waking up in the morning not walking straight. We really didn't even put up a fight either, and we looked like a complete disaster out there.

11/20/2015 4:23:01 PM

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"No, I am arguing that it was certainly more than "just one loss". It was a game against a mediocre opponent that we were supposed to give a supreme shit push-in, instead we were the ones waking up in the morning not walking straight. We really didn't even put up a fight either, and we looked like a complete disaster out there."

Ok when you find where he says, "I was going to NC State and then they lost to W&L and I changed my mind" let us know. Otherwise you are putting way to much stock in a single game in the course of a several year recruiting process where a player picks Kentucky over NC State. By your logic we should never get any good recruits, because we consistently year in and year out have "WTF was that shit?" losses. So do a lot of schools that still pull in big name players. It is the nature of college basketball, every year teams shit the bed, especially early in the year.

11/20/2015 4:47:35 PM

SMH

sometimes you people

just don't want to face the truth

11/20/2015 5:22:30 PM

Sometimes some of you people

talk about recruiting like you actually know what's going on

behind the scenes

when you have no way of knowing

11/20/2015 5:31:15 PM

i mean...i'm fairly certain Bam didn't have that change of heart after 1 game.

think about it...you fall in love with a school, its staff, its current players, its future players, etc and then they lose one game and you say "fuck it i'm out". that just doesn't make sense. if he was dead set on coming to state, that loss wasn't changing his mind. i don't know what was going on behind the scenes, but common sense tells me that losing to W&M isn't what made Bam commit to UK.

11/20/2015 5:40:17 PM

^^

I am not gonna sit here and rule out the possibility that it might have affected his decision.

That does not equal that I know what the scene looks like

Behind the curtain

11/20/2015 5:47:28 PM

Rawle Atkins left our game and went to the UNC game. Shitty atmosphere to awesome one. I put us at a 5 delta of getting him now

12/2/2015 9:33:43 AM

i blame the dj

12/2/2015 9:34:52 AM

I blame our weak ass crowd. Half the seats were empty, it was pretty embarrassing. It's been a while since I could attend a game, and I was disappointed to see how empty the season ticket seats were for a nationally televised game.

12/2/2015 9:45:30 AM

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"Rawle Atkins left our game and went to the UNC game"

Before, during or after?

12/2/2015 9:45:37 AM

agreed. i was fortunate enough to attend the winthrop game and you could hear needles drop in there. granted it wasn't a huge game with a lot on the line, but except for the random heckler in the back of section 306, your own coughs echoed throughout the arena.

12/2/2015 9:47:10 AM

I definitely noticed on tv how empty the stands were at least at the start of the game. Felt like there were more people there for W&M. I assumed this is the game people would start showing up for. Maybe our rabid fanhood of supporting a team despite them not being great every year is finally catching up to people, who knows?

12/2/2015 9:50:06 AM

^^^ during

12/2/2015 9:57:23 AM

I was thinking about going to the W&M game, but like fuck paying $64 for 2 upper level seats. Or $86 for two lowers. To watch a not very good team in a not important game for 2 hours. Maybe the prices will drop and I'll start going, but probably not.

[Edited on December 2, 2015 at 10:00 AM. Reason : Actual prices]

12/2/2015 9:58:46 AM

tix were going on stubhub for $10 2 days before the game

12/2/2015 10:00:36 AM

yeah I paid $10 a seat for decent uppers at the W&M game with four other people. we managed to sneak into lowers easily during halftime too

12/2/2015 10:05:57 AM

if you want cheap tickets, http://www.seatgeek.com

aggregates all the StubHubs of the world, sorts by best "deal", includes all fees you'd pay at the third party sites in the displayed ticket price

i've bought state basketball, state football, panthers, and canes tickets on it, highly recommend

por ejemplo, tickets to saturdays games starting at $5 https://seatgeek.com/bucknell-bison-at-north-carolina-state-wolfpack-basketball-tickets/ncaa-basketball/2015-12-05-12-pm/2799920/

[Edited on December 2, 2015 at 10:51 AM. Reason : .]

12/2/2015 10:49:10 AM

hurricanes attendance is also approaching nhl record lows. not sure whats gotten into raleigh sports fans.

12/2/2015 11:11:48 AM

It's expensive to watch a shitty performance. The same as any other fans.

12/2/2015 11:21:55 AM

I will admit I stopped going to Hurricanes games since they decided to not be good anymore. Limited time and resources dictates something lost and the Canes was it. I have also dropped my NC State attendance down to 1-2 football games a year and maybe 3-4 basketball games a year.

12/2/2015 11:41:54 AM

So was boobs trolling or is that true about Rawle?

12/2/2015 12:12:08 PM

Heard the 'Canes poor attendance is weighing heavily on the minds of future basketball recruits. They feel it is a sign of worsening Raleigh sports related economics coupled with a lack of general fan passion for sports by an ever growing RDU-based millennial generation caring more about the next Apple product than showing back up to their seats at least 3 minutes before the start of the second half.

I'm putting together a bar graph that shows this trend more clearly compared to Alabama, FSU, and Clemson.

12/2/2015 12:17:00 PM

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"So was boobs trolling or is that true about Rawle?"

I would assume he had already planned to catch both games (since he's considering both NC State and UNC) and he didn't just decide to leave during the game.

[Edited on December 2, 2015 at 12:21 PM. Reason : ]

12/2/2015 12:20:48 PM

^yeah that makes the most sense. pretty sure i recall some other recruits (that both we and unc or duke were going after) doing the same in the past.

12/2/2015 12:28:31 PM

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"Rawle Alkins ?@Iam_RawleAlkins 20h20 hours ago Gonna try my best to make it to both UNC & NC State games tonight.. #BIGGAMES"

12/2/2015 2:54:21 PM

Hope we still have a shot at Alkins. We need something to put the wind back in our sails after missing out on Bam Bam.

12/2/2015 10:38:33 PM

I give us 5% based on what he saw in raleigh and left to see in chapel hill

12/3/2015 9:39:22 AM

Alkins is going to want a chance at starting, how did he watch what we put on the court and not see an easy chance to start?

12/3/2015 10:32:48 AM

5% you say? Is there a formula you used to come to that percentage? Did you round-up?

12/3/2015 10:48:00 AM

same % I gave us for ingram

12/3/2015 11:06:54 AM

Never change boobs.

12/3/2015 11:26:09 AM

Will we ever get another player to come to State????

12/3/2015 11:42:14 AM