SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
You got to use a shotgun for house of the dead 3. I didn't mind the arm soreness for the interactiviity. To each their own.
I think the shotgun looks SWEEET.
[Edited on September 27, 2005 at 2:53 PM. Reason : sweetness] 9/27/2005 2:53:15 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
i dont get it
we already have duck hunt
how is this new? 9/27/2005 2:57:51 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
3D?
Moving the gun actually moves where your character is looking and aiming on screen.
although that would be difficult. if you were moving the gun, obviously it wouldnt be pointing at the screen... not sure how that would work actually.
the 3D mouse thing that is the handle has the ability to tell where youre pointing, but im not sure it would work with say a Resident Evil
[Edited on September 27, 2005 at 3:09 PM. Reason : *] 9/27/2005 3:04:35 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
oh ok. that is cool.
[Edited on September 27, 2005 at 3:07 PM. Reason : 0] 9/27/2005 3:07:17 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
I guess sticking an analog stick on the back qualifies as "new". The only thing is that the light gun will work with HDTVs. House of the Dead 3 used the controller to aim and I bet it's because of the HD set problem.
It'll be a cold day in hell before Nintendo releases a gun peripheral again. Nintendo's conservative enough as it is with the controversial political climate surrounding video games. Putting a gun in kids' hands is the last thing the company would do. And that mock-up looks expensive as hell anyway. 9/27/2005 3:11:50 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
I bet it'd retail for less than $50 9/27/2005 3:28:09 PM |
philihp All American 8349 Posts user info edit post |
dude
didn't you hear? in 1990 nintendo fired its creativity. now whenever they try to be creative, we just get things like the Virtual Boy, N64 controllers with this oddly protruding directional pad and a crusty control stick, the DS, and Nintendogs. 9/27/2005 3:32:32 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
^What was wrong with the N64 controller? 9/27/2005 4:52:31 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
personally i liked the n64 and the gamecube controllers 9/27/2005 4:56:47 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
I did as well. 9/27/2005 5:42:10 PM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit post |
the stick got less responsive as time wore on 9/27/2005 8:55:03 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
so do you 9/27/2005 9:08:19 PM |
jegaines Veteran 309 Posts user info edit post |
Uh Nintendo made the analog thumbstick. Then Sega goes and copies it so quickly that the Saturn comes out before N64 hit the market. Sony released the PS1 with that crummy controller, and held off the North American release and came out with their version with the two analog sticks. 9/28/2005 1:27:48 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "now im not worried about controller issues, but i am worried about having to buy 10,000 diff accessories to be able to play the assortment of games i like. that shit could get expensive. hopefully htouh you can just use the regular controller for most and then have some nice innovative games for freestyle/nunchuck controllers.
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Since most of the accessories are likely going to piggy-back off the electronics in the main controller, it can't be that bad, as far as price.
Probably still better than having to pay a monthly fee for good online features.9/28/2005 1:38:43 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
um
N64 controller was one of the best controllers made. 9/28/2005 8:16:51 AM |
jegaines Veteran 309 Posts user info edit post |
They said you can still play the conventional way if that floats your boat. 9/28/2005 8:57:28 AM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
the sticks on my 64 contorllers never got jawned up and i had them from launch. played that shit all the time too so perhaps you should just take better care of ur shit. 9/28/2005 12:06:50 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^then you havent been playing very much
those sticks are still usable, but a true gamer appreciates the sensitivity which does indeed fade rapidly 9/28/2005 12:12:13 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I think fault is rather with how well you take care of your stuff then how durable it is.
I played the hell out of my N64 sticks and they lasted perfectly well. 9/28/2005 12:23:35 PM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit post |
you're thinking of yourselves
don't forget young kids play nintendo too
you may be intellectual gods who can do no wrong
they are not 9/28/2005 12:26:50 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
I get pissed and throw controllers to EVERY system I own.
N64 controllers, all 4 of them, still work fine.
You guys just suck ass at playing video games 9/28/2005 12:39:47 PM |
jegaines Veteran 309 Posts user info edit post |
It's a well-known fact that the N64 joysticks start to where out to the point that they're unusable. If you've ever played one at a Walmart, you'd know what I'm talking about. Doesn't change the fact that they created the analog thumbstick (I'm not saying they created analog), and Sony copied the idea and made it better. 9/28/2005 1:04:57 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
The one that I got in the box with my N64 still works great. And that is after lots and lots of Goldeneye and Super Smash Brothers. Only the pre-owned ones that they sell at EB and Gamestop are dead like that. 9/28/2005 1:09:57 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
i agree with people who say the gun looks awesome 9/28/2005 1:40:59 PM |
needlesmcgir All American 2427 Posts user info edit post |
that gun looks freaking hot as crap. A resident Evil game with that would be really damn awesome. I just wonder if the placement of that analog sitck is easy to get to while holding on to the trigger. 9/28/2005 2:26:34 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
I had to say that the analog stick used to lose it's response. After playing it for so long (and playing Mario Party did NOT help), the stick had more give. If you tilted the controller, the analog stick would tilt slightly also instead of staying still. We wore out 2 controllers, but still used them anyway. 9/29/2005 12:20:14 AM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
My N64 controllers were virtually useless for spinning Bowser in Mario 64 after about six months. 9/29/2005 1:36:26 AM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
So a little bit more info has trickled out:
1. The Revolution has been confirmed to NOT support 720p or 1080i. 2. In the new EGM's rumor section, they state that several developers have commented that the Revolution has graphic capabilities that are only slightly above that of the Gamecube's (I guess that explains number 1). 3. The director of Smash Bros. Melee has been asked to direct the new Revolution Smash Bros, even though he left the company. 11/30/2005 6:16:15 PM |
spookyjon All American 21682 Posts user info edit post |
Hmm. 11/30/2005 6:17:52 PM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
wtf - they can't NOT support hdtv
that's suicide 11/30/2005 6:19:46 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
HAS IT BEEN REVEALED YET?!?!!?? 11/30/2005 6:22:43 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
it really doesn't surprise me... the early gamecubes had the plug to support HD...then on the later models they did away with that port... 11/30/2005 6:25:19 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
they're going for gameplay and that's what i want. i don't want the latest and greatest pixel reduction shit from xbox 1400302, i want something that plays well and is different and fun. last set of gaming consoles was only a graphics update, as is now. 11/30/2005 6:29:17 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
well it'd be nice if they'd do both 11/30/2005 6:37:26 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
If you are bothered that the graphics won't be good, take a look at Resident Evil 4 and some of the trailers for Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for the GC. They look absolutely incredible to me on a regular, non-hi definition TV so it really doesn't bother me if the graphics aren't vastly improved. If they were a giant step up, then I get the feeling that the Revolution would cost a lot more then what the current speculations are (<$200). And, unless they are younger then 13, anyone who thinks that graphics are better then gameplay loses all respect when it comes to gaming. From the looks of things the games for the Revolution are going to be a lot more interactive (and obviously immersive) then any previous games short of virtual reality, so I doubt graphics are going to a problem.
[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 7:00 PM. Reason : ] 11/30/2005 6:54:06 PM |
JRattB All American 2008 Posts user info edit post |
I think Nintendo has the same goal as Microsoft. They want to be in every living room in the world. The only difference is Microsoft thinks that the average household has an HD home theater with a network connecting all the components and is willing to drop $500 for an addition to it. Nintendo seems to be taking the more realistic approach. 11/30/2005 6:58:05 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
hmm, i read somewhere that the revolution would be less powerful than the others but the differences between it and the others wouldnt be any greater than it is now(meaning graphical differences between ps2,gc, and xbox) 11/30/2005 7:04:32 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you ever think thats possibly why they offered the core bundle? it is still expensive, but no more than what is expected considering ps2 and xbox(?) cost that much to start.
id also like to note that i stand by those n64 sticks being fine. did i notice any difference? sure, but it was very VERY minor. i played a ton of goldeneye, kart, and mario party. 11/30/2005 7:08:41 PM |
JRattB All American 2008 Posts user info edit post |
^ So are 360 games being devleoped with HD or SD people in mind?
Regardless, over the course of the next generation of consoles the people that can afford HD tvs will want a 360. The average household that doesn't want to pay over $250 for a console for their kid and doesn't have an HDTV will purchase a Revolution.
[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 7:25 PM. Reason : ] 11/30/2005 7:18:22 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^^perhaps those that didnt find that the sticks wear out just never played enough.
i mean, in HS i would play 4 player goldeneye multiplayer for like 5 hrs after school every day for about a year 11/30/2005 7:25:16 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
^^ why would anyone develop for lower resolutions when you CAN go for higher? not everyone can look at it, but why not have something extra for ppl who spent (potentially) thousands on a nice theater system. it isnt like you have to play in HD, but like someone else said you can design for both graphics and gameplay.
in the same vein, why develop a game not using surround sound (unless completely pointless)? it makes the game better and rewards people who have nice speaker systems.
it is also possible that xbox prices could drop by the time the revolution is released (or comes packaged with games)
^we played a lot, though granted it wasnt 5 hrs a day every day. you cant really blame nintendo for it wearing out if you played that much as im sure most controllers would fall to the pressure (ive seen plenty of ppl with jawned up ps2/xbox/gc controllers).
[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 7:58 PM. Reason : .] 11/30/2005 7:55:42 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
i can blame them....when they put out games like zelda and goldeneye, BFD, mario parties and smash bros .... they need a controller that can log hundreds of game hours 12/1/2005 4:38:11 PM |
FilipinoGuy All American 1086 Posts user info edit post |
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3545896186293271366 12/6/2005 6:08:39 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Apparently the power this machine will have will be similar to a "suped up XBox." Or about 2-3 times as powerful as a Gamecube. "Basically, take a GameCube, double the clock rate of the CPU and GPU and you're done." So, it simply will not have the horsepower that 360 and ps3 have, period. The discs can store 4.7GBs on a single layer or 8.5GBs when double-layered. But, it could launch as low as $99 and shouldnt be any higher than $149.
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/673/673799p1.html 12/6/2005 9:23:15 PM |
Officer Cat All American 931 Posts user info edit post |
2 or 3 times as powerful as metroid prime? sounds pretty good to me. 12/6/2005 9:30:58 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Damn if it launches at that price I seriously think it could pwn the hell out of both PS3 and XBX 360. I was expecting it to be at least $200 at launch.
Does this mean that Revolution games will not be $60 a piece?
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 10:00 PM. Reason : ] 12/6/2005 9:55:20 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
that is pretty insane, but people will still flock to pretty graphics i have a feeling. still great as a second system anyway at 100 bux considering thats less than 2 xbox games.
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 10:11 PM. Reason : not that it sounds like a slouch graphically, but im sure we'll see insane things from 360/ps3] 12/6/2005 10:07:21 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but people will still flock to pretty graphics i have a feeling." |
Your feeling is invalidated by the PS2.12/7/2005 12:02:29 AM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Apparently the power this machine will have will be similar to a "suped up XBox." Or about 2-3 times as powerful as a Gamecube." |
Umm, maybe I'm missing something but the GC could run games pretty damn smooth, I mean shit, look at Resident Evil 4. Xbox couldnt run that with any faster framerates than the GC. In fact the GC never had a problem pushing polygons at good frames actually. The graphics capabilities are on par with one another, no different. The ps2 however is a notch below both xbox and GC.
So if this is 2x the gc, there would be no sense in comparing this to the original xbox unless you were doing in exercise of futility?12/7/2005 12:12:36 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
xbox was more powerful than gamecube 12/7/2005 9:15:26 AM |