^it will probably be less then 200

5/10/2006 3:22:39 AM

^you're seriously dreaming

5/10/2006 8:32:48 AM

im excited about these xbox 360 titles...looks like sony is in for it now.

halo 3
gears of war
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent
CellFactor
all the sports games
GRAND THEFT AUTO IV - comes out october 16 on 360

ill add more as i scan through all the stuff on websites

5/10/2006 10:31:05 AM

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"looking at ALL the Wii launch title demo's and video, I'm REALLY disappointed. The games will definitely be fun, but they haven't pushed the graphics or physics AT ALL. It all just looks like gamecube games with a new controller."

yeah i noticed while watching the the whole conference deal, it seemed like their stance was to put graphics on the back burner, which just seems odd to me

5/10/2006 10:31:07 AM

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"no link for the 27 games but it was confirmed in the conference (Wii)."

No, that was not confirmed in the conference. Nintendo stated that they have 27 titles on the floor for people to demo but they did not specify them as launch titles (it would be like assuming every 360 title at last year's show was a lanuch title, which of course they weren't).

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"it will probably be less then 200"

EGM next issue (with Zelda/Wii on the cover) apparently states that the Wii console will be priced at $250. This was on either Kotaku or Joystiq.

5/10/2006 10:31:56 AM

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"^you're seriously dreaming"

me and most other industry experts

5/10/2006 11:28:03 AM

in the gaming industry, you realize that "expert" includes 13 year old kids who figured out how to put together some fucking website and call themselves a "journalist" right?

The "gaming industry experts" are usually stupid fucktards.

5/10/2006 11:51:09 AM

Yeah I think it's interesting that Rockstar has decided to release GTAIV for both systems on the same day.

As impressive as San Andreas was, I can't imagine what new features will lay in store with the new systems.

5/10/2006 11:52:38 AM

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"As impressive as San Andreas was, I can't imagine what new features retarded mini-games will lay in store with the new systems."

[Edited on May 10, 2006 at 11:54 AM. Reason : ...]

5/10/2006 11:54:21 AM

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"No, that was not confirmed in the conference. Nintendo stated that they have 27 titles on the floor for people to demo but they did not specify them as launch titles (it would be like assuming every 360 title at last year's show was a lanuch title, which of course they weren't)."

I was wondering how everybody was getting "games available at launch" from "games playable on the show floor"

5/10/2006 11:59:46 AM

GTAIV won't even be Rockstar's best game on the 360...

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/815/815145.html

5/10/2006 12:00:53 PM

link for gta 4 on 360??

5/10/2006 12:01:10 PM

hot coffee gangbang. use the wiimote as your penis and aim for each hole as it is highlighted. so much potential, i demand a port.

[Edited on May 10, 2006 at 12:01 PM. Reason : ^ just go to rockstar's site, it has gta4 with 360 and ps3 symbols]

5/10/2006 12:01:17 PM

So some of the execs at my company are at E3. I'm freakin' pissed off. I'm the damn Games Team Lead and I don't get to go to the games expo.

5/10/2006 1:06:14 PM

if you're a game dev, then E3 is not the conference you should be sweating over.

5/10/2006 1:09:22 PM

I just want to go because it would be fun. Also, we don't develop games, we just qualify them.

5/10/2006 1:10:50 PM

Josh8315: care to show me where these "experts" have cited this price?


that's right, you can't

[Edited on May 10, 2006 at 1:17 PM. Reason : d]

5/10/2006 1:17:16 PM

There were several ign articles quoting devs as saying they would be surprised if the Revo cost more then 200 dollars
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/673/673799p1.html

[Edited on May 10, 2006 at 1:40 PM. Reason : link]

5/10/2006 1:29:37 PM

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"costed"

5/10/2006 1:36:00 PM

I'll bet developers would also have been surprised if you'd told them the PS3 would come in at $600.

5/10/2006 1:48:48 PM

go to http://www.gamespot.com

there's a news article or whatever on there about gta 4 on 360

5/10/2006 1:54:24 PM

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"yeah i noticed while watching the the whole conference deal, it seemed like their stance was to put graphics on the back burner, which just seems odd to me"

That's been a big part of their philosophy for the last two-three years. It was basically confirmed from day one that the Wii wouldn't be as powerful as the PS3 or 360.

5/10/2006 4:51:51 PM

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"Josh8315: care to show me where these "experts" have cited this price? that's right, you can't "

fucking everywhere.

5/10/2006 4:53:32 PM

if the controller on the Wii is what it's supposed to be, I don't care about the graphics. People get so hung up on graphics that they forget that there are so many more important parts of the gaming experience that people miss when they waste their time getting a hard-on for great graphics.

5/10/2006 6:01:29 PM

ive always thought it was arbitrary the way you only used thumbs and index fingers in lateral movement for gaming

5/10/2006 6:43:52 PM

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"I'll bet developers would also have been surprised if you'd told them the PS3 would come in at $600."

Nope, everyone knew it would be expensive. Now if you mean surprised it wasn't announced as more expensive...

5/10/2006 10:40:54 PM

i bet PS3 comes down in price within 2-3 months after coming out. people just aren't going to pay that much for a system. that's a lot of money for people to dish out on something like that.

5/10/2006 11:41:46 PM

i guarantee you ps3 will sell out at $600 b/c people see "ps3" and think ooooooh

5/11/2006 12:03:22 AM

yeah you are probably right. but the average video game consumer such as myself would never shell out that much for a new system. i'll be buying the wii

[Edited on May 11, 2006 at 12:20 AM. Reason : ya]

5/11/2006 12:19:59 AM

it'll sell out initially. you'd be dumb to think otherwise. but after a bit (read: the initial rush/hype) it wont sell nearly as well at that price compared to its competitors.

5/11/2006 12:20:52 AM

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"It was basically confirmed from day one that the Wii wouldn't be as powerful as the PS3 PS2 or 360 XBox. "

There... I fixed it.

5/11/2006 12:37:40 AM

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2242

Sega VP speculates Wii will cost less than $200

5/11/2006 12:54:38 AM

when does the new egm get delivered? im heading to nyc on friday and hope itll be out for flight

5/11/2006 12:57:29 AM

ps3 freezes at e3

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1054142

5/11/2006 9:33:57 AM

^^^

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12522

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"The general recap of the information [relayed in the EGM article], however is: - $249 Price tag - Virtual Console (we knew this) - 3d Controller (we knew this) - ALWAYS online (console is always online, even when OFF) - Built in speaker on the controller - No improved graphics on Virtual Console (as in, they aren’t redoing the models, doesn’t talk about framerates and such). - TG16 will have it’s 1st party games out at launch, 3rd party will come later as demand increases. - Estimated prices for the VC are “a few dollars for NES, $5 for SNES and $10 for N64? - VC games are pro-scan enabled. - $250 “seems appropriate” - More 3rd party exclusives than the Cube"

5/11/2006 10:51:53 AM

^its just speculation that it will be 250

5/11/2006 11:03:18 AM

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"it'll sell out initially. you'd be dumb to think otherwise."

Really. People were buying the 360 on eBay for $1K - why wouldn't people line up to get PS3s for $600?

5/11/2006 11:04:18 AM

^yea, the issue is the hype....the media gave the 360 a long bj, it kept the demand very high

5/11/2006 11:05:13 AM

I think the 199 price tag would work better for nintendo but im still getting one at 250. They should think about including a few of the VC games for free as well.

5/11/2006 11:59:51 AM

what is the virtual console everyone is talking about? is this some type of new virtual boy or something?

5/11/2006 12:03:07 PM

^You can access any of the Nintendo library of games from the NES, SNES, or 64 and play them on your Wii.

Not sure if they download or you're just able to play them off their servers.

5/11/2006 12:05:20 PM

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"It's just speculation that it wil be $250"

really? You mean, just like it's speculation that it will be under $200?

5/11/2006 12:34:29 PM

5/11/2006 12:50:12 PM

i'm not gonna be doing a fucking tumble on the floor if i get a Wii

that shit is too interactive

the fishing and golf looks cool tho

5/11/2006 1:04:26 PM

Nintendo is upstaging the hell out of Sony and Microsoft this year.

5/11/2006 1:22:03 PM

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" really? You mean, just like it's speculation that it will be under $200?"

thats right, einstein. we dont know.

5/11/2006 1:34:53 PM

I'm as excited as the next about Wii, but I've been reading some disturbing reports from people that have had play time w/ the controller.

a lot of the posts at http://www.joystiq.com have been kinda negative. Controls too sloppy/loose or too sensitive. I think it's gonna be rough for a while until devs figure out the best way to use this controller.

5/11/2006 1:44:21 PM

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"I think it's gonna be rough for a while until devs figure out the best way to use this controller."

I've thought that from the beginning, but I hope I'm wrong.

5/11/2006 1:55:01 PM

having games with repetitive tasks is bad enough. throw in that you actually have to PHYSICALLY do those tasks and that could be a possible killer.

5/11/2006 1:58:44 PM

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"You can access any of the Nintendo library of games from the NES, SNES, or 64 and play them on your Wii. Not sure if they download or you're just able to play them off their servers."

Its not free though. Look at the prices quoted from the latest EGM magazine.

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"Nintendo is upstaging the hell out of Sony and Microsoft this year."

I would say Nintendo and Microsoft are upstaging the hell out of Sony. MS is very strong this year, especially with the expanded Live Arcade and mobile/PC integration. Nintendo is also colling a bit as people play the demos and realize its not quite what they were expecting, though still good... SOny totally dogged it this year.

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"a lot of the posts at http://www.joystiq.com have been kinda negative. Controls too sloppy/loose or too sensitive. I think it's gonna be rough for a while until devs figure out the best way to use this controller."

THis is exactly what I expected. Having had the Logitech motion controller it just doesn't translate nearlly as smoothly as one would think.. hell, sometimes I'd go crazy just trying to get the damn thing level and steady (like for flying). I think it will be outstanding for the traditional Nintendo style fun games and party games where the controls are fairly simple but it will fail miserably for more in-depth or complex action games and simulation sports games.

5/11/2006 2:48:27 PM