fantastic50

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING YOUR RANKINGS. HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY RANK INDEPENDENCE NUMBER 3 IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA WHEN THEY ARE THE 13th RANKED TEAM IN THE NATION

[Edited on October 20, 2006 at 10:50 PM. Reason : THANK YOU]

10/20/2006 10:50:09 PM

dag that guy (fantastic50) is still around

he was my TA in MA 241 in fall 2002

10/20/2006 11:05:21 PM

^ F '02 was my first semester at NCSU. Now I'm down to just my dissertation left for my PhD.

^^ Tonight, Indy beat a Myers Park team which has a losing record by only 7 points. Earlier in the season, they won a game 21-20 by stopping a 2-point conversion attempt in the last minute. Based on this season alone, if anything, they should be ranked lower.

Fuquay-Varina 29, Cary 21

10/20/2006 11:12:05 PM

I will keep saying it. Watch out if Wilmington Hoggard makes it to the championship game. Won tonight 45-7, should have them on the blowout watch. 8-0. GO VIKINGS

10/20/2006 11:25:24 PM

how'd garner do against east wake?

10/21/2006 12:14:08 AM

Eastern Randolph 69
Randleman 0

Poor Randleman...

10/21/2006 12:22:24 AM

East Lincoln 34
West Lincoln 14

It all comes down to East Lincoln Vs. South Iredell for the SP 1A/2A Conference title on Nov. 3.

By the way, a couple games of interest:

Bandy's 41
Maiden 18

Bandy's is 6-2, with one loss being against East Lincoln.

East Gaston 49
North Gaston 34

East Gaston's only loss was to East Lincoln as well. Next week, East Gaston plays Crest.

Crest was upset 27-24 by Hunter Huss at home.

Richmond County 10
Fayetteville 71st 8

10/21/2006 12:44:40 AM

Harnett Central 38
Gray's Creek 31

Both undefeated going into the game. The only real competition HC has had and will have for the rest of the year. Undefeated here we come.

10/21/2006 1:16:00 AM

anyone got a score for east chapel hill v southern durham ?

10/21/2006 1:20:33 AM

Garner beat East Wake, 14-0

and Southern Durham won, 47-0

[Edited on October 21, 2006 at 1:40 AM. Reason : yea]

10/21/2006 1:39:09 AM

Southern Nash 3
Wilson Fike 0

Southern Nash plays SW Edgecombe next Friday for the NEW 6 Conference championship!!!!

lol, its the Sweet Potato Bowl

10/21/2006 3:17:00 AM

J.H. Rose 72
D.H. Conley 0

All without Jonathan Williams playing.

[Edited on October 21, 2006 at 8:30 AM. Reason : .]

10/21/2006 8:30:32 AM

rose could handle independence this year, too bad with the stupid playoff breakdowns, they'll never meet

10/21/2006 10:25:56 AM

Big games this week locally...
#29 Garner 14, #39 East Wake 0 -- Trojans pretty much lock up the Greater Neuse title
Fuquay-Varina 29, Cary 21 -- F-V clenches at least a share of the Tri-Eight title
Durham Hillside 39, N. Durham 7 -- ND, who hasn't had a losing season since the 1960s, had to forfeit all 5 of their wins, after discovering one of their players was ineligible

Elsewhere in NC...
#37 Pisgah 33, #20 Brevard 28 -- This one lived up to its' billing
#4 Richmond Co. 10, #28 Fay. 71st 8 -- 71st misses a short FG in the last minute
#18 Butler 25, #40 Providence 13 -- Butler vs. Indy will decide conference title
Hunter Huss 27, #11 Crest 24 -- A bit of a surprise in this one
#46 East Gaston 49, North Gaston 34

Upset watch... (2 out of 3 upsets happened!)
Alexander Central (6-2) at Morganton Freedom (1-6) -- Freedom pulls it off, 21-7
Terry Sanford (7-2) at Purnell Swett (5-3) -- Terry Sanford wins, 21-12
Wilson Hunt (4-4) at C.B. Aycock (7-1) -- Hunt gets the upset easily, 23-7

Blowout watch...
#1 Greenville Rose 72, Conley (3-5) 0 -- Rose's star player didn't set foot on the field
#5 Greensboro Grimsley 49, Greensboro Smith 14
#21 Reidsville 56, Atkins 12
#45 Elkin 56, Alleghany 0
Siler City Jordan-Matthews 48, North Moore 7
East Carteret 63, Dixon 7

Somebody's got to win...
Fayetteville Westover 44, Southern Pines Pinecrest 14 -- Westover breaks double-digit losing streak

10/21/2006 11:16:10 AM

Independence drops to #6 this week, after beating a 4-5 Myers Park team by only 7. Incidentally, they are ranked #5 in the other statewide all-classifications ranking, done by Kenneth Massey, one of the BCS folks. http://www.mratings.com/rate.php?lg=hsf&sub=NC

The Fantastic 50 (W-L) Rating (Change)
1) Rose (9-0) 126.7 (+0.4, Unch)
2) Shelby (9-0) 126.2 (+0.4, Unch)
3) Richmond County (9-0) 123.9 (-0.4, Up 1)
4) Grimsley (9-0) 123.6 (Unch, Up 1)
5) A.C. Reynolds (9-0) 123.4 (+0.1, Up 1)
6) Independence (9-0) 123.2 (-1.2, Dn 3)
7) Dudley (8-1) 122.6 (+0.5, Unch)
8) Wallace-Rose Hill (9-0) 121.6 (+0.3, Up 2)
9) Thomasville (9-0) 121.3 (-0.3, Unch)
10) Cummings (8-1) 121.1 (-0.6, Dn 2)
11) E. Randolph (8-1) 120.5 (+0.1, Up 1)
12) Carver (8-1) 120.2 (+1.3, Up 1)
13) Butler (8-1) 119.0 (+1.9, Up 5)
14) Hoggard (9-0) 118.6 (+0.1, Up 1)
15) Charlotte Latin (9-0) 118.5 (-0.3, Dn 1)
16) Scotland County (7-2) 118.3 (+1.1, Up 1)
17) W. Alamance (9-1) 117.6 (-0.2, Dn 1)
18) Crest (7-2) 117.1 (-3.6, Dn 7)
19) N. Mecklenburg (7-2) 117.1 (+2.3, Up 12)
20) New Bern (8-1) 117.0 (+1.1, Up 5)
21) Garner (9-1) 116.9 (+2.0, Up 8)
22) James Kenan (9-0) 116.8 (+2.0, Up 8)
23) Reidsville (8-1) 116.6 (-0.1, Dn 2)
24) Pisgah (8-0) 116.5 (+2.9, Up 13)
25) Harnett Central (9-0) 116.3 (-0.5, Dn 6)
26) Davie County (8-1) 116.3 (-0.2, Dn 4)
27) SW Edgecombe (8-0) 115.4 (-0.1, Unch)
28) Seventy-First (6-3) 115.3 (+0.4, Unch)
29) Brevard (7-2) 115.3 (-1.5, Dn 9)
30) E. Gaston (8-1) 115.2 (+3.3, Up 16)
31) Char. Country Day (7-2) 115.1 (+1.2, Up 4)
32) Asheboro (9-0) 114.9 (-0.9, Dn 8)
33) W. Forsyth (8-2) 114.9 (+0.6, Dn 1)
34) E. Bladen (9-0) 114.8 (+0.8, Dn 1)
35) Franklin (9-0) 114.3 (+0.4, Dn 1)
36) W. Rowan (8-1) 113.8 (Unch, Unch)
37) Hillside (7-2) 113.7 (+2.1, Up 12)
38) Rocky Mount (6-3) 113.4 (+2.9, New)
39) Vance (6-3) 113.0 (+0.4, Up 3)
40) Parkland (8-1) 112.7 (-2.9, Dn 14)
41) Elkin (9-0) 112.7 (+0.7, Up 4)
42) Hertford County (8-1) 112.5 (-0.2, Dn 1)
43) Asheville (5-3) 112.5 (+0.3, Up 1)
44) Char. Catholic (8-2) 112.3 (-1.1, Dn 6)
45) Newton-Conover (8-1) 112.1 (-0.4, Dn 2)
46) S. Durham (7-2) 111.8 (Unch, Up 1)
47) Manteo (9-0) 111.7 (+0.5, New)
48) Bertie (8-2) 111.7 (+0.1, Up 2)
49) Providence (5-4) 111.4 (-1.3, Dn 9)
50) Concord (6-3) 111.1 (+0.7, New)
Dropped out:
#23 Maiden (Lost to Bandys by 23)
#39 East Wake (Lost to Garner by 14)
#48 Northampton-West (Beat N. Edgecombe by 28+)

It's almost playoff time...projected brackets are posted on my web page: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~rdpasteu/football/

10/24/2006 10:37:28 AM

North Meck is getting some respect now.....went from unranked to #19 in 2 weeks

10/24/2006 2:02:50 PM

^ They've been unranked only once in the last eight weeks, but definitely higher recently, after comfortable wins against Vance (currently #39) and West Charlotte (#70).
Here's their week by-week ranking, starting from pre-season:78 60 89 37 44 47 48 52 28 31 19

10/24/2006 2:59:51 PM

Where did South View drop to? I know they got beat by Swett and Pine Forest, two losses to not-so-great teams. And Gray's Creek, where are they? They only lost to Harnett Central
(by giving up 21 straight points late), and St. Pauls (by 1)?

[Edited on October 24, 2006 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ?]

[Edited on October 24, 2006 at 4:37 PM. Reason : ??]

10/24/2006 4:32:08 PM

South View dropped from #18 to #39 after the first loss, and from #30 to #55 after the second one. They are currently at #58, but could be a real headache for a first-round opponent!

Gray's Creek is not in the top 100; they've played a very weak schedule, with only two top-200 opponents. They beat Terry Sanford early in the year, lost to a mediocre-at-best St. Paul's team, and then loaded up on cupcakes in the very soft Cape Fear Valley 3A until meeting Harnett Central (a competitive loss against an outstanding team actually helped their ranking). They'll get a decent seed in the playoffs, but are likely to get knocked out in the first or second round, if they get a tough draw at all.

10/24/2006 4:54:40 PM

I'm sorry, but how do you have a 2-6 team (Freedom) ranked in the top 10 of any region, ahead of teams like Bandys, East Lincoln, etc.?

10/25/2006 10:53:41 AM

Freedom is an unusual case; they are a good football team, despite their losing record. They started 0-6, playing the most difficult non-conference schedule I've ever seen in 15+ years following NC high school football.

Here are their first six games (rankings are out of 350+ teams statewide)
at #2 Shelby (L, 37-19)
at #18 Crest (L, 61-7)
(top 100) Roberson (L, 24-21)
#43 Asheville (L, 36-3)
at #57 Watauga (L, 14-7)
#5 A.C. Reynolds (L, 28-17)

There are conference championship contenders (and at least one 4A conference champion) that would have gone 0-6 or 1-5 against that schedule. If Freedom wins their last two games, they will make the playoffs, and will be a very dangerous opponent for some conference's champion.

Big games locally...
Broughton (6-3, 3-1) at Wakefield (6-4, 1-4) -- Broughton must win to stay in the Cap-7 race
Apex (5-4, 2-2) at Fuquay-Varina (7-2, 4-0) -- F-V can claim Tri-8 title outright with a win
Knightdale (5-4, 3-1) at East Wake (6-2, 2-2) -- Winner gets 3rd in Greater Neuse, important for playoff seeding

Around the state...
#7 G'boro Dudley (8-1, 4-0) at #17 Western Alamance (9-1, 5-0) -- For Triad 3A conf. championship
#40 W-S Parkland (8-1, 2-1) at #12 W-S Carver (8-1, 3-0) -- Carver wins Pied. Triad 3A with a win
#33 West Forsyth (8-2, 5-0) at #26 Davie Co. (8-1, 3-1) -- WF wins Cent. Piedmont 4A outright with a win
#35 Franklin (9-0, 4-0) at #43 Asheville (5-3, 3-1) -- For Mountain Athletic 3A conf. title

Upset watch...
Asheville over Franklin (see above)
Middle Creek (4-6) over Athens Drive (7-2)

Blowout watch...
#9 Thomasville (9-0) at North Moore (0-9) -- T'ville could score 100 if they wanted to
#28 Fay. Seventy-First (6-3) at Pinecrest (0-9) -- Again, showing class might keep it to 55-0
Andrews (1-8) at Cherokee (8-0)
#10 Burlington Cummings (8-1) at Raleigh Cardinal Gibbons (3-5)
#8 Wallace-Rose Hill (9-0) at Midway (2-6)

The 2000 Flushes Bowl...
Western Harnett (0-9) vs. Spring Lake Overhills (0-9)

10/25/2006 3:17:57 PM

How can Broughton possibly win the Cap-7? Leesville has the head to head over ALL the teams. (Except Wake Forest - Rollesville, who they play next friday night).

With Leesville being undefeated, and at least one of everyone's loss in conference being to Leesville, I don't see how Leesville could possibly beat Cap-7 Champions. Even if Broughton ties leesville record wise, leesville has the head to head.

10/25/2006 10:31:38 PM

The key is that WFR has only one conference loss. If WFR beats Millbrook and Leesville, and Broughton beats Wakefield and Sanderson, then there would be a 3-way-tie for the championship, with WFR, Broughton, and Leesville all 5-1 in the conference and 1-1 against the other two. Officially, they would be tri-champions, and a 3-way-draw would determine the order for playoff-seeding purposes.

[Edited on October 25, 2006 at 10:38 PM. Reason : .]

10/25/2006 10:38:19 PM

so if WFR looses tomorrow, Leesville could clinch the Cap-7 during a bye week...

10/26/2006 10:56:38 AM

Go Garner.

Are we even good this year?

10/26/2006 10:58:24 AM

^^ Officially, any team tied for the best record in the conference is a conference champion (i.e. co-champs, tri-champs, etc.) regardless of the head-to-head results. So, Leesville has already clinched at least a share of the conference title. To answer your question, they CAN lock up the #1 seed from the conference for playoff purposes tomorrow night, if WFR loses, but that isn't likely as WFR is a 2-touchdown favorite against Millbrook.

^ Garner is good this year; they are 8-1 and about to win their conference again. They've only been challenged 3 times all season: a disappointing 14-9 upset loss at Durham Riverside, a hard-fought 25-21 win over likely Tri-8 champ Fuquay-Varina, and a 14-0 win last week over a solid East Wake team.

10/26/2006 2:24:27 PM

Props to East Gaston at #30. We haven't been good since the Eisenhower administration.

10/26/2006 2:30:23 PM

Quote :

"#7 G'boro Dudley (8-1, 4-0) at #17 Western Alamance (9-1, 5-0) -- For Triad 3A conf. championship"

GO WESTERN!

I might have to go check that game out!

10/26/2006 2:46:26 PM

im going with dudley

10/26/2006 3:15:37 PM

what do you think of Fuquay and Sam Jones? most people are syaing he looks like a future OT, but when I've seen him and talked to him he seems more like a DE than an OT


what about Ellis out of East Wake? I think thats his name


and what are your thought on the Golder kid out of Apex

10/26/2006 3:18:50 PM

^^have you seen western play? they have a vick-like qb now who can run and throw...they are HARD to stop on offense...

10/26/2006 3:42:42 PM

^^^^^ It's always cool to see long-suffering teams get it together and have success. We've had four big turnarounds locally in just the last 2 years (F-V, Athens, Hillside, Leesville). East Gaston also has a big game tomorrow night...I missed two of those in the Charlotte area:
#15 Charlotte Latin (9-0) at #31 Charlotte Country Day (7-2) -- They're private schools, but both are good
#18 Boiling Springs Crest (7-2, 3-1) at #30 East Gaston (8-1, 4-0) -- With a win, EG takes the Big South, arguably the state's toughest conference this year.

^^^^ Dudley vs. WA is probably the biggest game in the state this week. Both have the talent to make deep playoff runs.

^^ Being the PA announcer at Fuquay-Varina, my opinion may be biased! We have a solid team, our best in a decade, but don't have a signature win over a great team. We've played 2 top-notch teams, Harnett Central (with Rodney Cox) and Garner, and lost to both. We're looking at a high seed in the 4A east, but by the 2nd or 3rd round, could get knocked off my a runner-up or lower from a stronger conference than ours. Sam Jones is big and athletic, but is not a dominating player for us (but we play him almost exclusively on the O-line, and those guys don't get noticed much). For State, I agree that he will probably play DE, perhaps even DT if he keeps growing.

I don't follow recruiting much, and I follow teams, not individuals, so I can really only tell you about the players I've seen in person. Apex is coming to F-V this week, and we don't play EW, so I don't know anything about either of those guys. I will say that Rodney Cox is the best player I've seen all year, but I think he'd make a better WR in college than a QB.

For any of you planning to go to games tomorrow night, be aware that the game-time forecast is for 50s and lots of rain, so I suspect that many games will be pushed back to Saturday or Monday.

[Edited on October 26, 2006 at 3:47 PM. Reason : .]

10/26/2006 3:46:10 PM

I am definately going to Southern Nash tomorrow night. They play SW Edgecombe for number 1 in the conference. This is the first time Southern has been competitive in football in over 14 years

10/26/2006 4:01:59 PM

Anyone know much about Charlotte Providence? My old coach is down there and I wonder how he is doing.

10/26/2006 4:12:23 PM

^^ I remember Southern Nash running an unusual hide-the-ball offense about 10-15 years ago. Didn't they have a coach die in mid-season one year (which also happened this week at Southern Alamance)?

^ Providence is 5-4, but in my top 50 because of a tough schedule, with 6 top-50 opponents. They need to beat Myers Park (who is 4-5, but played Indy close at 31-24 last week) tomorrow night to finish 3rd in the brutal Southwestern 4A conference, which would help their playoff seed.

My favorite web site for HS football in NC is http://www.ncpreps.com. It's known primarily for its' message boards, but also has a lot of reference info, such as scores and schedules.

10/26/2006 5:00:01 PM

Asheboro represent...first undefeated season since...i started grade school?[b]

10/26/2006 5:32:52 PM

Quote :

"I remember Southern Nash running an unusual hide-the-ball offense about 10-15 years ago. Didn't they have a coach die in mid-season one year (which also happened this week at Southern Alamance)?"

yes, Algie Faircloth. There is a small monument under the scoreboard for him. He coached us to conference championships in '89, '90 and died in '91 I believe before we won our third straight. The year after his death was probably the best ever at Southern. They lost only 1 game that year and it was in the 4th round of the playoffs to the eventual state champion.

10/26/2006 8:27:53 PM

^ I was a junior at Raleigh Enloe in '91; I thought that happened when I was in high school. Last Monday night, Southern Alamance had to play a game two days after their coach (who died in an auto accident on I-85) was buried. Teenagers take tragedy so hard; I can't imagine having to play a football game so soon after the death of someone that close. It was difficult for many of our kids at F-V to get mentally prepared to play a game the week of the Sept. 11 attacks, and none of them even knew anyone who died.

10/26/2006 9:33:10 PM

Holy shit. I just realized that my high school (Southern Nash) is playing against an NC State commit from SW Edgecombe tonight....

This will be a good game.

http://www.wilsondaily.com/sports/Schools/291017282169900.php

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2006 2:20:46 PM

A lot of games are being postponed...call ahead if you're planning to go to one tonight: Here are a few of possible interest, but this is not a compelete list:

Apex at Fuquay-Varina, Sat. 7:00
Knightdale at East Wake, Sat. 7:00
Richmond Co. at Hoke Co., Sat. 7:00
Scotland Co. at Jack Britt, Sat. 7:30
South Caldwell at A.C. Reynolds, Sat. 7:30

Southern Durham at Durham Riverside, Mon. 6:00
Franklin at Asheville, Mon., 7:00
Athens Drive at Middle Creek, Mon. 7:00
Wilson Fike at Rocky Mount, Mon. 7:00
Crest at East Gaston, Mon. 7:00

10/27/2006 2:39:18 PM

as far as I know, SW Edgecombe and Southern Nash is still on schedule.

I assume that it is because its Southern's last home game of the season and it won't be using its field anymore....

oh wait....unless we get home field in playoffs

10/27/2006 2:44:47 PM

Shaw University's marching band will be playing the halftime show at the Apex-FV game on Saturday night, and it's only 25 minutes' drive from campus to Fuquay-Varina HS. Come out to see the Bengals (with NCSU recruit Sam Jones), as well as a great band!

10/27/2006 2:56:32 PM

The Cap-7 games were played tonight:
Broughton 17, Wakefield 14
WF-R 21, Millbrook 3

The championship comes down to two games on the last night of the season, next Friday:
Leesville Road at Wake Forest-Rolesville
Sanderson at Broughton

If Leesville beats WF-R, then the Pride wins the conference championship outright.
If WF-R beats Leesville, and Broughton loses, then WF-R and Leesville are co-champs, but WFR gets the #1 seed.
If WF-R beats Leesville and Broughton wins, then all 3 are tri-champs, and a draw will determine seeds.

10/27/2006 10:53:19 PM

Quote :

"Props to East Gaston at #30. We haven't been good since the Eisenhower administration."

No joke. But really, they won the Mega-7 the year before I got there. My sophomore year we were 0-10.

10/28/2006 12:18:22 AM

any word on the dudley score

10/28/2006 12:39:28 AM

AH SHIT. Southern Nash lost to the number 4 team in the state....SW Edgecombe, because we can't kick a fucking extra point. Not only that, but when its in a monsoon, somebody gets discombobulated.

final score SW Edgecombe 7 (they have a good kicker!)
Southern Nash 6 (We have a soccer player!)

only in high school football/ otherwise it was a pretty damn good game filled with many many hits....

10/28/2006 1:29:15 AM

^^ Dudley at WA 7:00 pm Monday

10/28/2006 10:15:11 AM

Dudley is going down

10/28/2006 12:05:57 PM

I saw SW Edgecombe play Southern Vance this year. That wishbone offense they run is just nasty. They take you out there and beat the hell out of you.

10/28/2006 2:10:32 PM

Fuquay-Varina 28, Apex 0

After a scoreless first half, F-V broke it open in the 3rd quarter. With the win, the Bengals lock up the Tri-8 championship outright.

And the Shaw University "Platinum Sound" marching band rocked the house!

10/28/2006 9:32:59 PM