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"But the pissing was a result of the overcrowdedness of section 7. So people sneak their way into section 7, they close off section, people don't want to leave because they can't get back in, thus they stay at seats and piss. that is the series of events, so i restate my point that this is just a result of students that couldn't just sit in their assigned seats."

Students knew they were cheating the system. They were abusing the policy. Personally, I think that some decision-maker down the line, who had to know that this system was being abused, should have made an example out of a large group of students. It definitely wouldn't stop people from abusing the system, but it would stop large groups of people, and especially large groups of drunks, from conglomerating in the best sections. You kick enough people out and however pissed they may be, they'll stop cheating the system. Especially when it's a bunch of rowdy drunks. The admin never really stepped up to this. However, all this moaning over the new policy is stupid considering how unabashed students were when it came to cheating the old policy.

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"we are just getting closer and closer to having no tailgate. this just cuts it down another hour, i'm sure the administration loves the idea."

You bet they do. The East Coast is reporting our vomiting and urinating in the stands. Sure, the way the admin wouldn't let kids back into their seats is the direct cause of this, but I'll bet you there were very few sober kids vomiting and urinating in the stands.

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"Some people have prior engagements, like class."

Yeah, and some people work--what's your point? Do you want a ticket policy that works for even the the minority of NCSU students who have classes on Saturday?

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 11:58 AM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 11:57:10 AM

so yeah... i wonder how they will make the stamps. if they use just normal Ink... most colors are gonna pose a bit of a problem.

i'm black. i'm not very dark skin but darkish colors on a dark background makes it VERY hard to tell what the color of the ink is. that being said... i'm CHOCOLATErvh... not dark chocolatervh. if you come across a shakazulu black brotha with a stamp on his hand. its gonna take a good 3 minutes to figure out what color it is.

9/29/2006 12:00:03 PM

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"Yeah, and some people work--what's your point? Do you want a ticket policy that works for even the the minority of NCSU students who have classes on Saturday?"

I would like a ticket policy for a Thursday game to work for the NCSU students who have classes on Thursday. Something tells me that these people aren't in the minority.

9/29/2006 12:05:53 PM

the ones that have class late enough for it to matter are....

9/29/2006 12:13:25 PM

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"I made the suggestion today to use each of our 4 gates for each of the four section areas we will now be stamping...waiting to hear back from security about their willingness to help direct people....if you walk that through, you will basically have some seats left in each section even w/ 30 minutes before kickoff, because some people dont' like 7/8, some like other sections more...if they are allowed to choose other sections, then that leaves seats open in every section for groups to coordinate and come when they can"

Perfect Idea.. doubt they are going to open up all the gates though..

Maybe 3 gates would work: 14/15, 7/8, and then endzones

9/29/2006 12:15:25 PM

Jesus Christ, if you won't even skip class to go to a game it's no use complaining. Blah blah now you have a mid-term, I'm sure.

9/29/2006 12:28:24 PM

I feel like i'm the only one who likes this idea. It's a matter of dedication. The people who wanted the good sections went through the trouble to get in them somehow. And now those dedicated crazy fans will be in the good sections because they will do anything (like showing up early) to get good seats.

I've been waiting for general admission like this for a while... two thumbs up

also, they should do the same thing for bball

early people get courtside, later people get further and further up... two thumbs up




and if you really want to get the upper sections... show up right before kickoff... duh

9/29/2006 12:45:45 PM

initial reaction from safety and athletics is no on allowing you to choose which section you want by picking a gate that cooresponds...but we're still working on it...more to come over the weekend

9/29/2006 12:52:19 PM

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"I feel like i'm the only one who likes this idea. It's a matter of dedication. The people who wanted the good sections went through the trouble to get in them somehow. And now those dedicated crazy fans will be in the good sections because they will do anything (like showing up early) to get good seats. I've been waiting for general admission like this for a while... two thumbs up also, they should do the same thing for bball early people get courtside, later people get further and further up... two thumbs up and if you really want to get the upper sections... show up right before kickoff... duh"

Yes, yes, and yes. Like I said, this policy doesn't piss off the diehard fans, it pisses off the fans who want to get more drunk.

9/29/2006 12:53:00 PM

well the more you cutdonw on tailgating and drinking the less people you'll get that just go to the game for the party. more football fans. id say about 80% of students at the game could give a shit about football

9/29/2006 12:54:09 PM

Thanks. That makes an excellent point.

9/29/2006 12:55:53 PM

^,^^

seriously. this needs to be fixed. award points for going to akron and app or make people wait in a 5 hour line to get tickets. that will weed some of the people that are just there to drink and socialize out already.

it seems like they could integreate tickets into our all campus cards. i know some schools do this. go to reynolds and have your card swipe during the week and a ticket put on it then just swipe your card to get into the game. swipers and the little metal gates that are usually at rides/subways that only let one person in per swipe at each section gate.

9/29/2006 1:00:36 PM

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"id say about 80% of students at the game could give a shit about football"

you need to just stop posting in this thread - you have no idea what you are talking about

9/29/2006 1:16:08 PM

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"the ones that have class late enough for it to matter are...."

I know some people in our group can't make it early. We signed up in a group so that we could sit together. Wasn't that the point of the groups? Now if we all don't make it to the stadium at the same time, then we might not be able to sit together.

I know that I can't be in the only group that has people that want to show up at different times.

9/29/2006 2:00:22 PM

^^as a test for 1 week ban tailgating and alcahol and give random seating and see how many of them show.~or<20% i bet.

9/29/2006 2:05:07 PM

It doesn't piss off the fans that want to get more drunk, it pisses off people that don't want to sit in the stadium with nothing to do for an hour. i'd rather hang out in the lot tossing football and eating a bit more food and on saturdays watch/listen to the other games that are on.

alcohol or not i don't feel like wasting an hour just sitting in the stadium. don't make this a dedicated fan vs. alcoholic type thing because that isn't the case.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 2:31 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 2:29:06 PM

i'll bet that the reason they did this was because chuck wouldn't stop complaining about no one being in the stands during kick off due to tailgaiting

now you have to get in early to get your good seats

gayness

9/29/2006 2:35:38 PM

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"It's a matter of defedication"

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 2:45 PM. Reason : ]

9/29/2006 2:45:23 PM

DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO SIT IN SECTION 7???? IS IT THAT BIG OF A FUCKING DEAL TO SIT IN THE UPPER DECK OR END ZONE?

I like the new policy if it means more people will leave for the game early and i can tailgate up to the last couple minutes and just walk in.


Its a football game, no seats are THAT much better than the others.... this way if you really want a good seat you can have it. Just drink 4-5 beers before the tailgating hours begin and then another 6-8 during the 3 hours of tailgating and go wait in that horrendous line for an hour.

Or just be a normal person and realize that your specific seat/section isnt that important.

9/29/2006 4:10:12 PM

i got this problem where i dont WANT to sit in section 7 or 8, but want to sit in the new endzone.

and i think the order is

7-8
SEZ
NEZ
14-15


so i dunno when to strategically get in line to get NEZ

9/29/2006 4:20:00 PM

good question...working on that
and also working on some entertainment (concerts perhaps, other stuff) for people who sit there for over an hour

9/29/2006 5:03:22 PM

its not like you cant have beers while waiting in line.....of course bringing like 6 might prove to be difficult

9/29/2006 5:04:56 PM

i know its probably not feasible but itd be nice if there were gates that were open for entry at the start, where you could go ahead and have your hand stamped for NEZ or whatever else was after the 7 & 8 crowd

9/29/2006 5:10:41 PM

Lee:

With all due respect, there should def. be a way that folks don't hafta count on standing in line for an hour. Multiple gates might be a solid idea.

9/29/2006 5:22:44 PM

sections 14 and 15 are going to be empty for kickoff unless something is changed

start letting students in early or something, but there is NO WAY one gate will be enough to get everyone in and assigned to a section in time for kickoff.

no chance

9/29/2006 5:27:56 PM

There are 3 gates and have been for all games this year.

9/29/2006 6:05:29 PM

lahyde, who do we send emails to about this system?

9/29/2006 6:46:18 PM

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"so yeah... i wonder how they will make the stamps. if they use just normal Ink... most colors are gonna pose a bit of a problem. i'm black. i'm not very dark skin but darkish colors on a dark background makes it VERY hard to tell what the color of the ink is. that being said... i'm CHOCOLATErvh... not dark chocolatervh. if you come across a shakazulu black brotha with a stamp on his hand. its gonna take a good 3 minutes to figure out what color it is."

very good point . . . I wonder if this has been even thought about

9/29/2006 6:54:42 PM

being in the student WPC I dont even have to use this system, but it still pisses me off and I will support any protest or petition against it

that being said, if I have any extra tickets I will give them away so that a few more people can avoid the hassle.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 7:02 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 7:01:35 PM

this is going to be such a disaster. i'm glad we are trying this during the most important game of the year. there must be a better solution.

9/29/2006 7:12:17 PM

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"Student Tickets- Game day Policy effective 10/5/2006 1. Students will enter the gate queue at Gate 11 as they have in the past and proceed through the bag check areas. 2. Students will have their print-at-home Gen. Admission ticket scanned at one of the 4 following gates: 10, 10A, 10B, or 11A. 3. Immediately following the scanning of the ticket, students will have their hand stamped with a section designation. a. No section requests are available, students needing special consideration for seating may request a ticket exchange with the NC State Ticket Office prior to game day. b. Smudged or missing hand stamps will be automatically re-directed to sections 14 & 15. 4. The Section Stamps are as follows: a. 7/8 - Sections 7 and 8 b. SEZ - South End Zone Sections 110, 111, 112, 114 c. NOR - North End Zone Sections 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127 d. 14/15 - Sections 14 and 15 * Above section designations are based on full student capacity figures. 5. Maps and section information are available online. Signage is located at the stadium sections corresponding to the hand stamp designations above. 6. When students enter the section that they have been stamped for, the Staff One personnel will check for the valid stamp and valid ticket. Re-entry to the section will require both hand stamp and ticket, students should keep their ticket with them at all times."

9/29/2006 7:22:00 PM

this is fucking bullshit

there are a million ways to fix the problem without making another one; honestly, who the hell thinks this is a good idea? And all you people who keep saying "this is great, the diehard fans will wait in line", shut the fuck up. The whole point and tradition on game day is to be able to tailgate. They've now found a way to fuck everyone in the ass who wants to tailgate for a decent amount of time.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 8:14 PM. Reason : ]

9/29/2006 8:13:45 PM

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"There are 3 gates and have been for all games this year."

yeah...kinda...10A, 10B, 10 and 11 are separate gates, making it technically 4 gates

9/29/2006 8:47:17 PM

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"Admission ticket scanned at one of the 4 following gates: 10, 10A, 10B, or 11A."

Gate 11A, is that new for us?

9/29/2006 8:49:06 PM

gate 11 has been used since the app state game this year.

9/29/2006 9:10:33 PM

naw...it's the same as normal...no idea why they added the "A" because the gate isn't changing

9/29/2006 9:11:14 PM

Not sure if this is mentioned before, but if section 7 and 8 are the problem why not stamp the peoples hand that sit in section 7 and 8. That simple. Seems to me that there is something else in the mind of the people who made this new policy.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 9:15 PM. Reason : error]

9/29/2006 9:14:14 PM

^ been mentioned by myself and others a bunch of times. apparently, it would require extra time to varify that the ticket is actually a 7 or 8 ticket and not forged???

I think thats crap. I think its crap that people are so desperate to sit in section 7 or 8. I hate section 7 and 8 right now. I wish those sections would just sink into the mud. the problem is just that people feel that section 7 and 8 are SIGNIFICANTLY better seats. so much better that they are willing to forge tickets to get in there, and then piss themselves while being in there. so fucking stupid. and i hope people that have sneck into section 7 and 8 aren't the ones bitching about this because it's their fault. if people would just sit in their sections with their blocks this isn't an issue. fucking morons and section 7.

I think that gate 11A should be for section 7 and 8 tickets. Let them waste their time in that line. If the person gets up their and the ticket isn't a real section 7 or 8 ticket, take down their name and ban them from getting student tickets forever. Leave the rest of us alone, and use the 10 gate.

9/29/2006 9:50:06 PM

The scanners apparently display the name and section of the ticket scanned. The staff would then have to actually verify that both the section in the system and on the ticket match. This would take more time. It's hard enough for them to figure out how to scan the tickets so this would just add more problems.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 9:55 PM. Reason : ]

9/29/2006 9:55:14 PM

does it seem to anyone else that we are the ONLY university that can't get a f*cking system that works?? and rules on tailgating for that matter. We had a system that worked just fine til they brought it all online. I honestly miss standing in line, waiting to see what section you were gonna get.

9/29/2006 10:39:31 PM

no, everything worked fine til some douchebag incorrectly correlated tailgating time with getting shot in the face.

9/29/2006 10:45:35 PM

Instead of tickets, they should distribute plastic bracelets with the barcode and ticket info printed on them at reynolds. that way you are already assigned a section, and you can't take the bracelet off once it is put on. (and duplicating a bracelet with that shit printed on it would be next to impossible for your average student.)

9/29/2006 10:51:21 PM

^DING DING


lets all hit up a hospital for some bracelets n shit

9/29/2006 11:01:00 PM

^ That's probably more expensive than paper tickets, which is the sole reason we don't have those anymore.

9/29/2006 11:01:08 PM

^ DING DING


lets all hit up the paper ticket store

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 11:04 PM. Reason : for some paper tickets n shit]

9/29/2006 11:03:59 PM

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" There are 3 gates and have been for all games this year. "

WRONG. 2 gates. which both feed from the same line if its backed up, which it usually is, and the line stretches halfway to the murphy center, its fucking bullshit.

Why cant we just claim our tickets online then go to reynolds and get a real ticket from an online voucher for an assigned seat, that would fix all this fucking bullshit; no overcrowding, no BS tickets, no ONE line for students.

9/30/2006 1:11:42 AM

There were 4 gates. 10 is divided into 10, 10A and 10B. Then we were using 11.

And unless the gates were on different sides of the stadium, 1 main line is the best. I helped athletics at gate 12 last year and several of the games people were backed around to where the ones at gate 10A were. From the 6-7 games that I was at the gate for, the main problem was 15-20minutes before kickoff. Everyone thought they should be able to wait until the last minute and then think they would get in before kickoff. It just isn't happening.


[Edited on September 30, 2006 at 1:32 AM. Reason : ]

9/30/2006 1:25:00 AM

i quit.

9/30/2006 1:30:18 AM

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"if people would just sit in their sections with their blocks this isn't an issue. fucking morons and section 7. "

ain't that the truth . . . I know of atleast one person on this page who is too good to sit in their assigned section.

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"yeah...kinda...10A, 10B, 10 and 11 are separate gates, making it technically 4 gates"

yeah, forgot 10 was 3 gates. I was thinking there were just two there.

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"WRONG. 2 gates. which both feed from the same line if its backed up, which it usually is, and the line stretches halfway to the murphy center, its fucking bullshit."

I don't give a shit if there are a hundred, the point was there there isn't just one like you had previously said.

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"start letting students in early or something, but there is NO WAY one gate will be enough to get everyone in and assigned to a section in time for kickoff."

sure there is 1 main line that splits, but more than 1 entrance. And I've never had a problem with the line, just don't wait till 10 minutes before kickoff and expect to walk right in.

9/30/2006 10:28:23 AM

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"Smudged or missing hand stamps will be automatically re-directed"

explain to me how they expect ANY of the stamps to not be smudged after hours of drinking, sweating, screaming, jumping up and down/rubbing against people

9/30/2006 11:02:34 AM