it's been posted before, but it just seems fitting at this point in the thread...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvQbQUv9qBw

6/7/2007 3:36:04 PM

6/7/2007 3:48:21 PM

I hope we get Noah...that way every time we win a game he can do a goofy dance that embarasses his teammates

6/7/2007 3:53:40 PM

Quote :

"Charlotte Bobcats Team Needs By DraftExpress.com, special to Rivals.com (33-49 in 2006-07) Draft Picks: No. 8, No. 22 Depth Chart PG: Raymond Felton / Brevin Knight / Jeff McInnis* SG: Adam Morrison / Matt Carroll* / Derek Anderson* SF: Gerald Wallace / Alan Anderson* PF: Walter Herrmann / Sean May / Othella Harrington C: Emeka Okafor / Primoz Brezec / Jake Voskuhl / Ryan Hollins *Potential Free Agent Could use help at: Shooting Guard, Small Forward, Power Forward Bottom line: Charlotte is loaded with former college stars from the last few years. Some have developed, some haven’t and the jury is still out on a few others. Gerald Wallace, Emeka Okafor and Raymond Felton are the core of this team, and they are a talented young trio. The rest of the team is a mix of unproven youngsters and mediocre veterans. Adam Morrison was the team’s big pickup in last year’s draft. While his rookie season wasn’t stellar, there is still the potential for him to become a solid complement to the big three. With a pair of first-round picks in this year’s draft, Charlotte can add another post player to take some pressure off of Okafor. Another need is a swing man to provide more depth at the small forward spot. Draft outlook: Joakim Noah would be a nice addition with the eighth pick. He is a versatile big man that runs the floor well and crashes the boards. Most importantly though, Noah is the kind of player that can step in right away and help a team win. Another viable option would be if Corey Brewer was still on the board. Brewer is a very gifted athlete who is an excellent perimeter defender and explodes to the basket on the offensive end. At No. 22, the Bobcats have options - depending on what they do with their first pick. DeVon Hardin and Marcus Williams are possibilities. Hardin has a big frame, long wingspan and is an explosive force. He challenges anyone inside the paint defensively, and when he has the ball on the block simply elevates over defenders. Williams provides some versatility. He is a smooth and crafty ballhandler who is able to create his own shot with ease. He would benefit tremendously from playing along side a distributor like Raymond Felton."

6/12/2007 2:33:33 PM

those guys must have been reading our thread

but srsly, we need to stop waiting on the draft to help our team

FREE AGENT VETERAN PLAYERS

6/12/2007 2:40:52 PM

I don't think Noah is a bad fit for us. But 5 is just too high to take him.

6/12/2007 5:31:22 PM

yea i'd hope we dont trade up 3 spots and still take him.


so jordan got peterson involved somehow....i read a story on a forum a week or two ago about someone seein a bunch of bobcats personnel in a restaurant in orlando talkin about the draft, and they mentioned that buzz peterson was there. this explains why.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2902281&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines

6/12/2007 6:17:37 PM

^^finger missed. meant 8. Boston will be taking Brewer or the big Yi at 5.

I'm happy with the coaching hires though.

6/12/2007 6:20:30 PM

Seriously, why the hell is Noah even projected in the top 10-15. I can't think of one thing he does above average ... except make himself look retarded. He's an expert at that. Sure, I like the guy's energy/heart, but I will never understand why he's so highly regarded.

Brewer, Green, or even Byars from Vanderbilt would be much much better picks IMO.

6/12/2007 9:52:13 PM

Most people think he could have gone 1st overall last year to Toronto, but that speaks more about how weak the draft was last year than about his ability. Basically he's in the same situation as Matt Leinhart, going from a likely number 1 pick to somewhere closer to 10th. Fortunately for him, the difference in money for those picks is much less in the NBA than in the NFL.

6/12/2007 10:08:13 PM

Noah can do a lot of things we need
I hate to say it because I am coming down from what I said earlier but im not sure he wont be our best option at 8.

I just dont know

6/12/2007 10:36:31 PM

i'd rather have spencer hawes than that douchefuck

6/12/2007 11:35:39 PM

Quote :

"Former Charlotte 49ers coach Lee Rose and former North Carolina All-American Phil Ford are joining the Charlotte Bobcats coaching staff"

Well, at least JB Bickerstaff has someone to go drinking with.

6/13/2007 1:20:23 AM

Is Jordan just hiring all of his buddies into management positions?

It doesn't appear that they have many experienced executives in that staff.

6/13/2007 1:31:30 AM

^If he hires Charles Oakley then we know something's up

[Edited on June 13, 2007 at 2:51 AM. Reason : x]

6/13/2007 2:51:45 AM

larry brown had Ford on his staff in Detroit and other places

6/13/2007 8:20:32 AM

I'd rather have Hawes than almost anybody that will be available. Dude's a beast.

Noah is a 7 foot athlete. They don't make too many guys that big that can move like him.(dancing included) He's also been a winner. I'm not sure if he helps an NBA team, but you can see why he is highly coveted.

6/14/2007 1:36:55 PM

Noah reminds me of Anderson Varejao. Maybe it's just the hair.

[Edited on June 14, 2007 at 1:40 PM. Reason : 2]

6/14/2007 1:40:13 PM

and the fact he cant shoot

6/14/2007 1:46:41 PM

Quote :

"Noah reminds me of Anderson Varejao."

6/14/2007 1:51:01 PM

The national media seems to think it is a lock that we'll take Noah. WTF?

You can't knock his hustle, but fucker can't hit the 15 footer from what I've seen. It's gonna be a logjam down in the paint with Noah and Okafor down there together.

Can the 'Cats not catch a break? Like Brewer falling to 8? Do we take Conley, Jr. is he falls to 8? I know we need rebounding, and while JoNo brings that and shot blocking, his offense is lacking and we could really use another low post scorer.

6/14/2007 2:01:41 PM

Not only can Noah not shoot, but he also doesn't have a reliable post game.

Jeff Green or Al Thornton would be much better picks. Julian Wright could be solid as well but take a little longer to develop (not ideal for the Bobcats, but that would be the case for Noah as well).

6/14/2007 2:09:30 PM

the mock i saw today had em takin julian wright at 8 and pau gasol's brother at 22

6/14/2007 7:04:45 PM

Gasols brother is a late second round pick by most everyone ive read

im not sold on Jeff Green or Julian Wright honestly

I say trade both pic for some veteran talent and a lower pic, but i dont think anyone has anything to offer

6/14/2007 9:42:16 PM

Now this I would love to happen

Quote :

"The talk here in Italy is that the Warriors are trying to move Jason Richardson and the No. 16 pick to move up higher into the draft to grab Yi Jianlian. Their targeted trade partners appear to be the Grizzlies (for Stromile Swift, Damon Stoudamire and the No. 4 pick), the Celtics (for Theo Ratliff and the No. 5) and the Bobcats."

6/14/2007 10:09:29 PM

well Melvin Ely got him a ring

6/14/2007 11:50:18 PM

i forget the draft is coming up

6/18/2007 6:44:19 PM

Quote :

"the mock i saw today had em takin julian wright at 8 and pau gasol's brother at 22"

a revised version of the same mock now has them taking jeff green at 8 and marco bellini at 22

6/19/2007 6:11:03 AM

I dont want Jason Richardson at all. He makes like $16 million a year and he only plays half seasons.

He's a good player but he just doesn't quite have it. We'd be the worst free throw shooting team in the league between Felton, Richardson, Wallace, and Okafor.

Wallace is already a more valuable player than Richardson and would come at a cheaper price tag. I just don't see how that deal makes us better.

6/19/2007 6:18:09 AM

I don't know. With Richardson's surprising 3-point shooting, and his obvious finishing skills, our offense would be that much better. I agree about the injury thing, but Wallace is the same way. It's hard to knock guys that play hard and are injured as a result.

I know it's dumb, but I can't get the image of Felton leading a fastbreak with Wallace, Richardson, Okafor and (gulp) Corey Brewer out of my head.

6/19/2007 8:59:19 AM

well if theres one thing we know, its that Felton can run the Break with the best of them

oh and we upgraded Dell Curry from talent scout to Assistant Coach, stefan(sp?) curry to help our shooting woes??

Quote :

" CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- The Charlotte Bobcats hired Dell Curry as an assistant coach Monday, while former assistant John Outlaw was named director of pro player personnel. Curry, who played 16 years in the NBA, including a 10-year stint with the Charlotte Hornets, had served as the Bobcats' director of player development. He'll join first-year coach Sam Vincent's staff, which includes Phil Ford, Lee Rose, Jeff Capel and Paul Mokeski. Outlaw will take over many of Curry's former duties. The Bobcats have had a complete makeover of their basketball operations in the offseason. Former coach and general manager Bernie Bickerstaff stepped down from both roles to become vice president of basketball operations. Rod Higgins was hired as general manager and Buzz Peterson quit as coach at Coastal Carolina to become director of player personnel. Part-owner Michael Jordan has the final say on all basketball decisions."

6/19/2007 9:06:27 AM

we all saw how good jordan was in washington as an exec...

6/19/2007 9:16:55 AM

Timberwolves picked up JBB as an asst coach

http://www.charlotte.com/bobcats/story/165891.html

6/19/2007 4:02:46 PM

foxsports has revised their mock draft yet again. now they have bobcats gettin brewer at 8 and rudy fernandez at 22

6/19/2007 5:12:45 PM

how many drafts is tiago splitter going to be in? i swear i see his name every year

6/19/2007 5:16:16 PM

^ this is the last time Tiago Splitter is eligible so he'll be staying in this year.


Goddammit I read about the NBA draft/offseason approximately ~3 hours a day while Im at work.

The more i read the sicker i get to my stomach about us missing Oden/Durant because we insisted on winning a few games while everyone else was tanking.

We have absolutely got to get Brewer, B.Wright, or Conley. I dont think Noah will be bad but Im starting to realize we arent a playoff team with Noah and Almond... Dammit bobcats stop fucking this thing up our window is running out before we have to just blow things up and start from scratch or be destined for mediocrity.


Here's a good assessment of Jason Richardson. The guy just doesn't have max money talent, period. He's a good player but he's a horrible player to build a team around. The thing about the NBA... guys who are GOOD but are paid to be GREAT are a dime a dozen. Everyone tries to get rid of max contract guys who aren't ELITE.

That's what is so dumb about the "max" rule. One team gets Kobe Bryant or Kevin Garnett for max money... while another team has to settle for Jason Richardson or Shawn Marion for max money...

Quote :

" hope everyone noticed that Jason Richardson has emerged as the make-or-break player of this series. As weird as this sounds, Richardson has been exposed AND it's been his coming-out party as a player. He's clearly a competitive, skilled, tenacious 2-guard who would be an asset on any playoff team, someone who's as good as Michael Finley in his prime. At the same time, they're paying him franchise money and there isn't a single guy on Utah's roster who can guard him ... but he's not quite talented enough to swing the series in Golden State's favor. He's having good games and putting up good stats, but they needed more from him than that. That makes him a tweener of sorts -- better than a complimentary player, not quite an All-Star talent. When your fate rests in the hands of someone like that, you're not beating a good team in May. "

If you still want Jason Richardson after reading that, then you are an impatient fan who thinks getting to round 1 or round 2 of the playoffs and losing is better than taking a risk and trying to build a legitimate contender. If that was our plan from the beginning then we shouldn't have wasted three seasons putting ourselves in this position. We could have been competitive from the start if we'd picked up the available guys like Stackhouse...

The above excerpt mirrors my sentiments on Rashard Lewis too. And actually it looks like Rashard might not be a free agent anymore since his agent forgot to notify the Sonics within the allotted time that he would be opting out of his contract. I doubt he will stay in Seattle since he'd probably raise hell if the Sonics didnt let him opt out, so perhaps he's available in a trade and we could land him for the ~$10 million he's scheduled to make the next two seasons.

6/19/2007 6:49:28 PM

oh my, if we had picked up Stackhouse i would have died

6/19/2007 9:31:56 PM

Givony usually knows his stuff

Quote :

"Word on the Street- A Look at the Lottery by: Jonathan Givony - President June 19, 2007 As the draft gets closer, a definite consensus is beginning to emerge regarding which players are being favored by each team. We present a quick look at the 14 teams in the lottery, and who they are reportedly looking at most seriously. We also examine a few prospects—Yi Jianlian and Al Thornton included—who’s hype seems to be waning a bit these days. Portland: The Trailblazers are still saying publicly that they are still considering Durant at #1, but no one really seems to believe that they will have the “guts” to pass on Greg Oden. Seattle: Sam Presti isn’t going to have to think too hard about who to draft. Durant reportedly came in for a secret workout last week, and will obviously be off the board here if he doesn’t go #1. Atlanta: Where the intrigue really starts. Atlanta is still very much open to listening to trades, and will almost certainly be selecting either Al Horford or Brandan Wright at this spot, even if they are still telling people that they are strongly considering Conley. None of the three players are conducting competitive workouts. Memphis: Just having finally hired a GM recently, it’s obviously premature to know for sure who they are leaning towards. Mike Conley Jr. is a name that is quietly gathering some steam at this pick, even if Horford is the consensus favorite should Atlanta decide to pass on him. The Grizzlies held a fascinating workout today in Memphis for hometown favorite Corey Brewer, bringing in an excellent sparring partner in Nick Young to give him a run for his money. Acie Law was also here, while Brandan Wright worked out by himself once again. Boston: Consistently the toughest spot for anyone to predict, as “Danny Ainge is basically impossible to read” according to one source we asked for their personal mock draft. Many insiders are predicting Jeff Green as the darkhorse choice here. Joakim Noah, Yi Jianlian and Brandan Wright are also receiving consideration. The Celtics are shopping this pick extremely hard, so fans of Conley Jr, Brewer or Yi might want to line up here to ensure that they get their guy. Milwaukee: They really want Al Horford, but will settle for Mike Conley Jr. if he’s still on the board (even if they privately say that they don’t think he will). If Brandan Wright is here, they probably take him. Minnesota As we exclusively reported on our podcast last week, the Timberwolves definitely seem to be leaning towards Spencer Hawes. They would also strongly consider Corey Brewer or Jeff Green, but Hawes seems to be their man. Charlotte If he’s still here, Corey Brewer almost certainly is Charlotte’s pick, even though he has not been working out particularly well so far. "

6/20/2007 12:21:46 AM

haven't teams learned to not take 6'10" or taller non-euro white guys in the lottery??

6/20/2007 12:30:19 AM

Bill Simmons talks a bit about the Bobcats in his new article

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070620&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

here are some thoughts from it:

Quote :

"Grizzlies: Offer Pau Gasol to Milwaukee (for Andrew Bogut and a 2008 No. 1) and Charlotte (for the No. 8, the No. 22 and Sean May). "

Quote :

"8. Charlotte Bobcats I'd love to see them pursue Gasol (with the No. 8, the No. 22 and May), re-sign Gerald Wallace and compete with a nucleus of Gasol, Wallace, Ray Felton, Emeka Okafor, Walter Hermann, Adam Morrison and one more free agent swingman like Mo Peterson or Desmond Mason. If they keep the pick, don't they have to take Joakim Noah here? He fits in the "guys who had success in college" theme and gives them a ton of flexibility at the 4/5 spots, right? Whatever they do, I feel like the Bobcats are closer to being good than people realize ... plus, they're the ultimate fantasy team sprung to life, just an ultra-eclectic, improbable mix of recognizable players. If there was ever a franchise that could accommodate a Paul Shirley comeback, this is it. The VP's verdict: Make a serious run at Gasol, with Noah as the backup plan."

[Edited on June 20, 2007 at 4:56 PM. Reason : .................]

6/20/2007 4:54:36 PM

While its not very likely I like that trade and the way our lineup would look.. Would much rather have Gasol than Noah(what everyone is predicting) and whoever we would get at 22

... Come on MJ, show us that you can actually be decent as Director of Basketball Operations

6/20/2007 5:32:37 PM

This is going to sound retarded, but I don't know much at all about Gasol. I've only seen glimpses of the guy, mainly i can't stand watching the Grizzlies play. I know he's high caliber, and usually has great stat lines, but what are his strengths? weaknesses? Hell, what position does he play? (3,4,5)

6/20/2007 6:32:05 PM

Gasol is a beast...when he is healthy he is a threat to get 25, 12 and 5 assists every night...he's like a 7'0 PF who can shoot and also put it on the floor

6/20/2007 8:43:29 PM

I would be really excited to get Gasol for next to nothing considering where we are picking

getting proven talent for "we dont know yets"

and if our money works out with Wallace who says we still can offer Rashard LEwis some jack

Gasol 13 mil, Gfroce, 10 mil, Lewis, 10 mil

i hope the Griz present this to MJ

Bill Simmons has been giving much respect to our team lately

6/20/2007 9:10:21 PM

^I would rather keep Wallace than get Rashard Lewis....I like Lewis but Wallace is probably a better player and easily a better fit for our team right now.

[Edited on June 20, 2007 at 11:22 PM. Reason : No way we have both of them]

6/20/2007 11:22:38 PM

^and a much better defender and hustle player too

6/20/2007 11:25:32 PM

I don't see why the Grizzlies wouldn't at least consider Gasol for #8, #22, May, and Brevin Knight...

Gasol would be the perfect complement for Okafor... Okafor would offset Gasol's defensive deficiencies and Gasol's post scoring/passing ability would allow Okafor to concentrate on his strengths like offensive rebounding and dunking

6/21/2007 7:04:24 AM

im getting excited about Gasol even though I know it wont happen ever because it makes sense

i mean, wed be trading away 2 picks in a deep draft and a former lottery who has played well when healthy for a fairly young guy with not too big of a contract

and I was talking about keeping Wallace and signed Lewis

6/21/2007 8:39:47 AM

I think they can get a better offer for Gasol than May, Knight 8 and 22. Maybe not. But I am sure Chicago had a better deal for them a few months ago.

I don't want Lewis because we'll have to pay too much to get him. I like Wallace, even if he can't shoot. We're in trouble if he continues to be our best player though.

6/21/2007 12:28:23 PM

wallace's shot has actually improved each season, although he's obviously not a matt carroll type shooter

6/21/2007 12:46:36 PM