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nice , im boosted ...Hopefully guys like Salley and Coop will step up after all of this...

hopefully, Morgan will stay healthy and lead our LB corps to dominance once again.
Its already looking like our D-line is back to top form, so maybe the DBs will get a break when
the rest of the defense is playing at a high level?

[Edited on August 8, 2007 at 12:21 PM. Reason : five]

[Edited on August 8, 2007 at 12:23 PM. Reason : 5]

8/8/2007 12:21:41 PM

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i would bet all the money that i have that morgan will not stay healthy

8/8/2007 12:23:16 PM

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well he knows this is his last shot....

no team will pick him up if he goes down yet again with concussions...

only time will tell, but as a panthers fan I have to be optimistic...

8/8/2007 12:24:22 PM

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he'll be forced to retire if he goes down with a brain bruise again

8/8/2007 2:07:35 PM

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I was listening to Adam Gold this morning and they had a panthers camp analyst on the show who said that Morgan is lighting it up at camp. Supposedly the hit of the day was when he stuffed DeAngelo at the line of scrimmage so hard that the whole camp went nuts. He verified that they are giving adam seward equal reps in practice for when morgan needs to come out of the game though....

8/9/2007 10:50:39 AM

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and also :

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32 Questions: Carolina Panthers
By Tristan H. Cockcroft
Special to ESPN.com

August 8, 2007, 4:56 PM

Thirty-two teams, 32 burning fantasy questions. Throughout the preseason, we put one of these questions to an ESPN.com analyst for an in-depth look at the most interesting, perplexing or dumbfounding fantasy facet of each NFL team. Be sure to check out all 32 questions.

Besides Steve Smith, is there fantasy value to be had on the Panthers?

Of course there is. The problem, though, is that there isn't any top-flight talent to be found elsewhere on the roster.

Since most fantasy owners focus first on the running backs, after Smith, all eyes will next turn to the DeShaun Foster/DeAngelo Williams position battle. With four weeks to go until the start of the regular season, it's a competition destined to go down to the wire, if it doesn't result in a straight time-share, a nightmare for fantasy owners.

Upside chasers -- those who scratch and claw to get the breakout campaign -- might find it irresistible to nab Williams, perhaps even if it means designating him their No. 2 fantasy running back. Though he failed to meet expectations as a rookie in 2006, when Williams did get a chance to strut his stuff, he made it clear he has the talent to be a real force for many years ahead. In his two starts, he managed a combined 261 scrimmage yards and a score. In the six games in which Williams touched the ball 10 times or more, he averaged 107.2 scrimmage yards and 4.3 yards per carry, not bad numbers at all.

Count on the Panthers getting Williams much more involved in the running game in 2007, helping back up his breakout candidacy. For one thing, it certainly helps that the Panthers, with new offensive coordinator >Jeff Davidson, have crafted their zone-blocking scheme perfectly to Williams' skills set. That should allow the sophomore to reach the outside more often and let his speed control the game. Williams himself notes how similar the Panthers' approach is to the one used during his college days at Memphis.

Still, while Williams might be generating early excitement, don't ignore his limitations. He's not particularly adept in goal-line situations -- at least not yet -- and Foster's experience is still something that appeals to John Fox and his coaching staff. Even if Williams takes hold of the starting role early in the season, Foster at worst could wind up the goal-line back. Foster might have uninspiring numbers in recent seasons and a checkered injury history, but health willing, he's going to be part of the Panthers' plans … somehow.

Worse yet: Nick Goings could wind up the goal-line back during the preseason, and that's a prospect neither Foster's nor Williams' potential owners would welcome.

Turning the focus to the quarterback, any team with a talent like Smith has to earn its QB some attention, and Jake Delhomme, when you think about it, really gets a bad rap.

Remember, it was only three short years ago when Delhomme, still on board as the team's starting quarterback for 2007, nearly managed a 4,000-yard, 30-TD campaign (he had 3,886 yards and 29 scores). From 2004-05, he had 18 multi-TD efforts in 32 games, and last season, he averaged 216.6 passing yards per game with 16 TDs in his final 10 contests, respectable even if they're not spectacular numbers.

One can make the argument -- and rather well -- that the Delhomme-to-Smith connection is a case of "the receiver makes the quarterback," not the other way around. Still, that's quite the receiver helping Delhomme pad his stat sheet, and let's not belittle the up-and-coming talents behind Smith, like third-year receiver Drew Carter and rookie Dwayne Jarrett, either. There's enough here for Delhomme to work with, and with Davidson calling the shots and bringing some fresh blood to the offense, a bounce-back season is within his sights.

We'd be amiss if we didn't discuss the addition of David Carr, though, as Delhomme's backup and potential in-season competition. Sure, Carr threw more interceptions than TD passes in three of his five seasons in Houston, including 2006, but it's hard to ignore his accuracy. He actually led the league in completion percentage (68.3) last season, among QBs with at least 100 attempts, and his 82.1 passer rating actually ranked him 15th, only two spots behind Delhomme, in a much weaker offense.

It's still Delhomme's show to run, at least to begin the season, but if you can afford the bench spot to do it, Carr is one of the smarter handcuffs at the QB spot.

What about the aforementioned Carter and Jarrett? Keyshawn Johnson's departure creates a golden opportunity for these youngsters to step up as the No. 2 receiver alongside Smith. No, it's not a role that has generated much of any fantasy appeal since Muhsin Muhammad left town for Chicago following the 2004 season, but then this might be the most promising duo of receivers to get a crack at the spot since that campaign.

Jarrett, in particular, warrants sleeper consideration after setting a USC record with 41 career touchdowns. It might be asking a lot of him to adapt perfectly to the NFL game in his first season, but the ability is there for him to become a possession target alongside Smith. In the best-case scenario, Jarrett could be to Smith what Mike Furrey is to Roy Williams in Detroit, and that's not a bad player at all.

Plus, if Jarrett proves slow to get acquainted, Carter wouldn't be a bad fallback for the Panthers. He's a skilled downfield threat, whose 144-yard, one-touchdown effort in Week 14 of last season demonstrated his upside. Carter might be better suited to the No. 3 role on this team, but pressed into duty, he could have some matchups appeal.

Don't write off the defense, either. The Panthers might have finished the 2006 season only 16th in fantasy points at the position, but with talents like Julius Peppers (13 sacks in 2006), Dan Morgan and Kris Jenkins still on board, combined with the addition of talented rookie Jon Beason, there should be better times ahead for this unit. A lack of turnovers plagued last season's team, but you should expect better from these guys, especially in games against weaker offenses. At worst, the Panthers should be a fine matchups-type defense.

The bottom line: Smith aside, with a potential running-back-by-committee situation, a respectable starting quarterback albeit one with his limitations, and a receiving corps that boasts sleeper potential yet is dominated by a clear go-to guy, the Panthers shouldn't be looked at on draft day until you're pretty confident in your starting lineup. There's value here, but it's a noticeable drop off after top-15 overall talent Smith flies off the board. "

8/9/2007 10:52:02 AM

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anybody planning to make a trip to training camp? I'm thinking about going, but want to tag along with someone cause i've never been before and i don't want to go by myself.

8/9/2007 10:52:23 AM

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http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=253115

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"Camp tour: Healthy Panthers a threat in NFC

Posted: August 9, 2007

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SPARTANBURG, S.C. -- If you were to listen to the media hounds, they would tell you that defensive end Julius Peppers' contract is a big story in Panthers camp and that backup quarterback David Carr is stalking Jake Delhomme's job. Maybe the 100-degree heat is getting to people, but Panthers watchers needs to sit down, get a drink of water and relax.

The fact is Peppers has two years left on his contract, and his agent hasn't contacted GM Marty Hurney about a new deal. So where's the problem? Secondly, Carr is not here to unseat Delhomme. Carr, a Texans castoff, gives the Panthers a viable backup quarterback lacking in years. Simply put: Delhomme is the guy.

Now that we've shot down the "not hot" topics, let's start dishing out the dirt on what really is happening at Panthers camp. Defense is the story. The retirement of safety Mike Minter is a blow to the secondary, obviously, but it also leaves a significant leadership vacuum in the locker room. Players say middle linebacker Dan Morgan is the new unspoken leader, but it's tough to lead from the trainers' room. Morgan never has played more than 13 games in his six NFL seasons, and he was limited to just one game last year after his fifth (and most severe) concussion.


The good news is Kris Jenkins -- the once-upon-a-time All-Pro defensive tackle -- looks as though he is dedicated and ready to return to his dominating ways. Jenkins is in good shape and reported to camp at 355 pounds, significantly under the 400 pounds he has been known to carry. He is the key cog in the Panthers' defense.

PLAYERS ON THE SPOT

Defensive end Mike Rucker will have a tough time holding onto his job this season. Backup Stanley McClover, a seventh-round pick out of Auburn last year, is having a great camp. McClover has added weight and bulk, and he is playing hard and acting like he belongs on an NFL field. Look for McClover to steal plenty of snaps early in the season and perhaps be starting by midseason.

PLAYER ON THE RISE

Fourth-year wide receiver Keary Colbert, thought to be a bust, surprisingly has looked great and is the talk of camp amongst the players and coaches. The departure of Keyshawn Johnson cleared the decks for the young receivers, and Colbert is making the most of his opportunity. We also learned that Colbert played all of last season with bone spurs in his feet and never told anyone, not even the team's trainers. Colbert now is healthy, has earned the coaches' confidence and appears to have locked up a starting spot.

BEST LOOKING ROOKIE

Center Ryan Kalil, a second-round pick from Southern Cal, is not in the mix for a starting spot right now but that could change. After watching Kalil at practice, it will be hard to keep him off the field this season. He is smart and can make the line calls. He also is a unique athlete for his position and can do some special things when blocking on the second level. There is no doubt Kalil is one of the Panthers' five best offensive linemen. But so is starting center Justin Hartwig.

FREE-AGENT FOCUS

The Carolina backup job is a really good fit for Carr. He is a six-year NFL veteran with a lot of experience, and he is stepping into a quarterback-friendly system without much expectations. And after absorbing 249 sacks in Houston, Carr's body could use a break. For the Panthers, they get a proven backup and someone who can help them win should Delhomme get hurt. As coach John Fox told us, the Eagles lost their quarterback last year and still won games.

Last year, Delhomme missed five games and the Panthers went 1-4 in games he missed or was knocked out of.

Carr is good with his hard count, will have better protection in Carolina to locate his second and third options and he has the arm strength to complete throws downfield. If the running game gets going, the former tackling dummy will feel like he died and went to heaven.

POSITION BATTLES

The immediate need in the face of Minter's retirement is for someone to step in at safety. Nate Salley should lock up one spot, but Deke Cooper and the recently acquired Chris Harris will battle for the second spot. Harris, who came to Carolina in a training camp trade with the Bears, is a smart player who already has begun to pick up the defense. In fact, one of his new teammates told us a story of Harris' first night and practice with the Panthers. The teammate and Harris spent an hour in a dorm room talking about the scheme, and the next day Harris was making correct calls and adjustments on the practice field.

The other spot up for grabs is at tight end. Veteran Michael Gaines has the early lead and will be a factor, but second-year man Jeff King also has made an impression as both a blocker and receiver. And the coaches say they love what they've seen from rookie Dante Rosario. His skill sets are better suited to the NFL, and his versatility as a blocker and receiver will get him on the field at more than one position. Rosario, a fifth-round pick out of Oregon, has the look of an ideal H-back who can be put in motion, split out or play as an in-line tight end or fullback. Expect the Panthers coaches to use Rosario in a myriad of ways.

BOTTOM LINE

Panthers fans have been on a rollercoaster ride in recent seasons. Two years ago, the team went to the NFC championship game. Last season, the team sustained a multitude of injuries and still won eight games.

The Panthers' players and coaches say they feel good about the makeup of the team, especially the new-found depth, and have the pieces in place to have an effective offense and defense. Remember, this is a team that swept the media-darling Saints last year, 21-18 and 31-21.

The Panthers are a real threat to reach the Super Bowl. "

8/9/2007 2:11:46 PM

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I wish the Panthers would of kept WR Juluis McClennan..he's a beast at WR, lets hope their offensive coordinator knew what he was doig by letting him go

8/9/2007 4:37:26 PM

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wtf are you even talking about

8/9/2007 4:38:40 PM

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wtf are you even talking about

8/9/2007 5:06:54 PM

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the guy i'm rooting for is youngblood. the guy is 6' 5", decent hands, better than average speed. i doubt he'll make it though w/ smith, jarrett, carter, colbert, and robinson on the roster already. biddle is likely going to make it before him also b/c biddle will be returning punts. youngblood will be lucky to make the practice squad.

8/9/2007 5:52:53 PM

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biddle returning punts? are you sure about this? i thought the new guy ryne robinson's main job was to return punts

biddle will definitely contribute as a wide receiver this year. mark my words

8/9/2007 6:02:25 PM

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^^ as a clemson fan, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and oh.....yes.

[Edited on August 9, 2007 at 6:02 PM. Reason : youngblood]

8/9/2007 6:02:43 PM

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anybody goin to training camp next week?

8/9/2007 6:18:30 PM

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i thought it was common knowledge that we drafted ryne robinson to return kicks and punts since our return game was garbage last year

8/9/2007 6:19:10 PM

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honestly, i dont know why biddle was sidelined all of last year...the dude was great in camp and fantastic in preseason...fast as hell.

i will say this...

i went to camp on the 2nd day, and my god Ryne Robinson is absolutely lightning fast.

8/9/2007 6:31:41 PM

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long as they dont let gamble touch the ball during returns we will be 50 percent better

8/9/2007 8:25:42 PM

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^yeah that play where he threw it cross field is like a microcosm of our return game last year...stupid play...and a horrible throw...the coaches deserve some blame for calling the play though, especially when they should know whether or not gamble could throw a semblance of a pass

8/9/2007 8:52:45 PM

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"biddle returning punts? are you sure about this? i thought the new guy ryne robinson's main job was to return punts

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Positive. I saw him at training camp working in some reps. Also heard it from several other sources that he was getting a decent amount of practice. He actually attempted some last year. Biddle won't see the field unless Rhyne messes up or gets injured, he is just an insurance policy.

8/9/2007 9:10:21 PM

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I'd like to see Steve Smith go back to return a punt...assuming theres 1 second left in the Superbowl and the other team is punting

8/9/2007 9:12:55 PM

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"Aug. 8, 2007) -- Last year, the Carolina Panthers were supposed to end their season in Miami winning the Super Bowl. Of course, when it didn't happen, someone had to pay for the 8-8 season.

Some suggested it was Jake Delhomme's fault, others felt it was the games Steve Smith and other key players missed due to injury. Of course, some projected that John Fox was now on the hot seat.

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The Panthers will have a much better supporting cast in 2007.

Real: 56k | 300k

Before I go any further, let me say that those rumors are the farthest thing from the truth. In one sense, all head coaches are on the hot seat, but Fox is the leader of this team and isn't going anywhere. Delhomme is the quarterback and he will not lose his job to David Carr.

And, most important -- unless you have watched this team practice and see the quality depth they have on the roster for yourself -- the negative issues being forecast about the Panthers could easily lead you into the trap that this franchise is struggling. The Panthers are a very good football team and the visit to their camp solidified the direction they are headed toward.

Sure, the team struggled last year, but as usual when the Panthers struggle in the John Fox era, it was the injuries that set them back. Yes, they were the worst third-down conversion team in the NFL last year -- they are working to fix that problem, which I will get into later in the scouting report.

The building block the 2007 Panthers are working from is they did go 5-1 in the division last year -- they swept the Saints and the Bucs and split with the Falcons. The cynic will say the Saints pulled their starters at the end of the season -- which is true -- but it doesn't explain how they beat them the first time. It doesn't explain how Carolina's defense permitted only 11 points per game in the division while scoring 19.6. Carolina is practicing with a chip on its shoulder.

After talking with the head coach, general manager and close to a dozen players, I can assure you the 2007 Carolina Panthers are ready for the challenge and are going to have a better record than last season.

HOT TOPICS
1. Mike Minter retires -- I spent some time with him and his teammates. Emotions were running high at camp. Mike Minter was the emotional leader of this team. He was here for the highs and lows, and there is no doubt he will be missed. Mike told me it really did occur to him at the end of the last game last season he was ready to walk away for good. For a short time, he convinced himself he would do it one more time, but as the sweat and pain of this camp started to take its toll, he said he realized it was over.


John Kasay and the Panthers will miss Mike Minter's passion, leadership and solid play.
Steve Smith told me the private speech Minter gave to his teammates in the locker room really touched his heart. Smith said he walked out of that room realizing he must take a bigger role with his team if the Panthers are going to win. Smith will try to fill Minter's big shoes.

2. Kris Jenkins looks ready to play -- There was a time when Kris Jenkins was the best defensive tackle in the NFL. Somewhere along the way he lost his fire, gained weight and just couldn't play up to his former level. Fox is having a positive influence on Jenkins, and the fire appears to be back and roaring. Anyone who was at practice on the night of Aug. 5 saw the old Jenkins, moving with the quickness of a man 100 pounds lighter and the power of the biggest in the NFL. Jenkins is playing for a big contract, and if the night practice is any indication of Jenkins' value, he will get paid.

3. This team has depth -- David Carr, DeAngelo Williams, Ryan Kalil, Dwayne Jarrett, Stanley McClover, Damione Lewis and Richard Marshall make up a corps of backups who could start for most teams in the NFL, or at the very least give the Panthers a very good chance in the war of attrition.

NEWCOMERS
1. Jon Beason -- I sat down with him; his football intelligence impressed me. He is penciled in as the starting Will LB and he is learning middle linebacker just in case Dan Morgan is sidelined again. Beason is very explosive and will have no trouble going sideline to sideline.

2. Chris Harris -- A great pickup, and it cost only a fifth-round draft pick to the Chicago Bears. He picked up the Panthers defense in his first practice and a few days later, Minter announced his retirement.

3. Dwayne Jarrett -- Jarrett is a red-zone threat and is every bit of 6 feet 5 inches. He will work well in the three-wideout package the Panthers will employ.

4. Dante Rosario -- A dark horse to make a big impact. As one coach said, "His skills relate better to the pro game than they did to the college game. He looks to be the second tight end, an H back and occasionally a fullback in the backfield." Dante was a steal as a fifth-round pick.

SCOUTING REPORT
Offense -- New coordinator Jeff Davidson is running the show. The players say the terminology is different but the concepts are similar. Look for DeShaun Foster (227 carries in '06) and DeAngelo Williams (121) to get about the same ratio of carries in 2007. Fox said, "Foster is in great shape and our starter. Williams is an excellent second choice and we are in an era when you need two good players."


Steve Smith will be putting more of an effort into trying to fire up his teammates.
As for the passing game, the Panthers start with Steve Smith and the split-end screen -- get Smith the ball in space and let him work his magic. After that, they have a much improved Keary Colbert working the middle of the field and Drew Carter working the vertical game. Jarrett will work his way into the starting lineup sooner rather than later, but for now is a great red-zone threat. Every time I talked with a coach or front-office person, he brought up how good fourth-round WR Ryne Robinson looked, and I agree after watching him at practice.

If the offensive linemen can stay healthy, they are more than solid as run blockers and pass blockers. This offense will score more points than it did last year, and its third-down package might include some four-wideout sets, which looked very effective at practice.

Defense -- It all starts up front, and whether it was Fox's ability to reach Jenkins or that he is playing for a new contract, he looks better than I've seen him in recent history. His weight is closer to 350 than 400, he is unblockable when he wants to go hard, and he was so enthusiastic at practice that Fox had to ask him to move back on the sideline when he was cheering for the second-team defense during a team practice period. There is no doubt the two defensive tackles will keep blockers off MLB Dan Morgan, but no one knows if the first real contact is going to cause any of his concussion problems. He is avoiding most of the contact this summer to make sure he gets to the regular season.

The secondary has big, physical corners in Chris Gamble and Ken Lucas, and a solid cover man in Richard Marshall. The receivers told me Gamble causes the most problems for them when it comes to releasing off the line. Minter's retirement leaves a battle at the safety spots, and I would guess that by September, it should be Nate Salley and Chris Harris. I talked with Salley; he understands the coverage calls and the adjustments, and he'll do just fine.

Special Teams -- The return game should be in great shape with DeAngelo Williams on kick returns, and Chris Gamble and rookie Ryne Robinson on punts. Robinson flashed some make-you-miss quickness during practice. Field goals are critical in the NFL, and last year John Kasay found the fountain of youth when he converted 89 percent of his attempts. He was 8-for-8 in the 40-49 range and his only misses all season were from beyond 49 yards. Jason Baker led the NFC with a 39.0-yard net punting average.

BIGGEST WEAKNESS
The Panthers have two good running backs, a backup quarterback with lots of starting experience, a third cornerback, some depth at offensive line, and a four-wide package that will cause problems. So how could there be any problems? Well, Morgan, the defense's emotional leader, has had concussion problems and struggles to finish a season; backup linebacker Terrence Melton left the team after taking an injury settlement; Thomas Davis, a converted safety, is still learning the linebacker position, so at this point linebacker has to be considered a weakness.

SOME OF THE BEST INTERVIEWS
1. Steve Smith -- Minter's retirement clearly affected him, and he has sworn to take a bigger leadership role.

2. Mike Wahle -- His no-nonsense approach to the season typifies the attitude of the 2007 Panthers and their desire to get back in the limelight.

3. Thomas Davis -- Thomas told me things look slower on the field when it comes to offensive recognition, which makes his key and diagnosis better. He said he feels like he will play a lot faster this season.

4. Travelle Wharton -- The starting left tackle said his knee feels great and he is working on some new techniques to improve his pass protection.

PREDICTION
The Saints are still the team to beat in the NFC South but the Panthers have closed the gap and will battle New Orleans all season. Carolina likes being a bit under the radar right now and is way more comfortable waiting for the regular-season games to show what they're really made of. This team will be hard to beat, and I would not be surprised to see 11 victories and a run in the playoffs.
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8/10/2007 9:58:06 AM

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^thanks for that....I'm a lot more optimistic about this season after reading that

8/10/2007 10:11:11 AM

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Says he's ready after learning from veterans

PAT YASINSKAS

SPARTANBURG --A couple months ago, fans were screaming for the Carolina Panthers to sign safety Donovin Darius. It turns out the team might already have had him, in another body.

This version might turn out to be a younger, healthier version of Darius, the former Jacksonville safety who ended up signing with Oakland.

At least that's how Deke Cooper views himself.

"I learned a lot from Donovin," said Cooper, who spent the better part of three seasons backing up Darius. "I patterned myself after him in how I approach the game, prepare myself and how I lead my life off the field."

It might be time for Cooper's apprenticeship to pay off. Suddenly, and, at least for the moment, Cooper is Carolina's starting free safety.

His signing on March 26 didn't draw much attention, but Cooper might be part of the reason why the Panthers weren't more aggressive in pursuing big-name safeties in free agency or the draft. He might not be a household name, but Cooper is well known by coach John Fox and his staff. Cooper was with the Panthers in 2002, working as a special teams player and backup safety.

Despite an impressive training camp in 2003, he was released at the end of the preseason.

"The most disappointing part was I knew there was something special about that team that year," Cooper said. "I knew if I got released, I could catch on with another team and play. I wasn't at all upset about getting cut. I was upset because I knew we were going to the Super Bowl that year."

The Panthers went to the Super Bowl and Cooper quickly was signed by Jacksonville, where the defensive system was virtually the same as the one he'd played with Carolina. That's because Cooper joined the Jaguars in the first season under head coach Jack Del Rio, who had been defensive coordinator for the Panthers in 2002.

"It's the exact same system as Fox's," Cooper said. "Really, I've pretty much been in that same system for about five years now, and I think that's working to my advantage out here."

The best-kept secret in training camp is that Cooper is now the team's most seasoned safety. After this week's retirement by Mike Minter, Cooper leads the safeties with 22 NFL starts.

"Deke's a guy who's had a past with us," Fox said. "We know what he's about. He knows our defense. We kind of know what his abilities are on special teams and defense. They're competing. We'll see how it ends up."

With Minter gone, Cooper has been getting the first-team snaps at free safety and Chris Harris, acquired earlier in the week from Chicago, has been working at strong safety. Those two likely will be the starting safeties Saturday night when the Panthers open their preseason against the New York Giants.

Second-year pro Nate Salley also is in the mix, and the Panthers still could look for some safety help from outside. But Cooper, who played briefly for San Francisco last season, hopes that won't be necessary if he can take advantage of his second chance with the Panthers.

"You know, right before (Minter) retired, we were in a meeting room with the defensive backs and a lot of the young guys were goofing around," Cooper said. "I asked Mike if I was like that when I was here before and he said, `Yes, you were.' But that was a long time ago and I had the opportunity to learn from Mike and Donovin. Now, it's time for me to go out there and show some leadership in that secondary by using what I learned from them."

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http://www.charlotte.com/507/story/230896.html

I had already been hearing some good things about Deke. Hopefully he does well.

8/10/2007 10:16:40 AM

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^Wow. If that analysis doesn't get you ready for football, nothing will.

A few good things I picked up from it:

1. TD and Gamble appear to be comfortable this year -- those two guys have all the athletic talent in the world, but spent a lot of time in the past thinking instead of playing
2. Rosario is going to be a huge, unexpected weapon. Sounds a bit like a Antonio Gates
3. If Jenkins keeps the fire he's playing with right now, he'll obliterate QBs and opposing OLineman
4. Morgan is due a break. Seriously.
5. Our OL should be one of the best in the league, and we have some weapons in the passing game, so if Jake sucks, it's likely going to be all on him.

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8/10/2007 10:23:09 AM

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we seem to have more depth this year than any other year i can recall

"Jarret to miss first preseason game"

http://www.charlotte.com/panthers/story/231283.html

hopefully its just precaution and nothing serious

8/10/2007 11:55:09 AM

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Jake Delhomme: Defender of the Biscuit

http://videos.charlotte.com/vmix_hosted_apps/video/1482069

can somebody embed this?

8/10/2007 6:37:55 PM

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[Edited on August 10, 2007 at 10:13 PM. Reason : dont think it works...]

8/10/2007 10:12:58 PM

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^^ hahahahaha, he has a cape

8/11/2007 3:01:36 AM

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PANTHERS SEASON IS UPON US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8/11/2007 9:48:48 AM

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hooray. Can't wait til 8 pm tonight.

8/11/2007 11:20:34 AM

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anyone know if this is going to be on tv at all?

8/11/2007 11:22:23 AM

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should be on FOX if you're in NC.

8/11/2007 11:28:49 AM

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today's the day

8/11/2007 1:40:01 PM

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anyone want to grill out? ribeyes are on sale for like half off at foodlion

8/11/2007 1:46:21 PM

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Going to an engagement party at 4

but I've made it clear to the couple that I have to be home by 8 for the game.

8/11/2007 1:55:04 PM

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"should be on FOX if you're in NC.

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it's actually on CBS here in winston-salem

damn can't wait

8/11/2007 2:10:54 PM

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its on abc(channel 9) in raleigh

8/11/2007 8:01:35 PM

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I got it on ABC.

8/11/2007 8:01:38 PM

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might have to go out to the car and listen on sirius 126

8/11/2007 8:03:15 PM

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It's on FOX in Charlotte, at least.

8/11/2007 8:05:56 PM

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^^^haha beat ya

[Edited on August 11, 2007 at 8:09 PM. Reason : haha steve just said "peyton manning"]

8/11/2007 8:07:19 PM

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in the driveway, in my car
listenin to the shit

im that guy

8/11/2007 8:09:39 PM

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haha alexandria got no love for the panthers?

8/11/2007 8:12:37 PM

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charlottesville hoe and nope

for some reason redskins actually have fans

[Edited on August 11, 2007 at 8:15 PM. Reason : dflkjgdslfglksdf]

8/11/2007 8:15:16 PM

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King, honey, catch the ball next time

8/11/2007 8:18:25 PM

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damn dweedle i hate you missed that last run

[Edited on August 11, 2007 at 8:21 PM. Reason : and then goings follows with a good run]

8/11/2007 8:21:19 PM

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SMITTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

8/11/2007 8:22:36 PM

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the air of confidence is already apparent. keep working like that last drive and it'll be good season

8/11/2007 8:24:16 PM

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contract the redskins plz

so their reign over the territory will end!

8/11/2007 8:25:52 PM

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