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NutGrass
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well, the editing make sense to me. the nominations, and the one sent packing is never a mystery when i watch the show. if the house is against kail, CBS edits and shows reasons why, and then kail is sent home. i don't see why any of the house guest will be surprised once they get home and watch the CBS broadcast. i think they would say...'ohh, thats why eric didn't like me that week'. all CBS does it takes a week long fight and compress into 1 hour. its got to be edited, fair and balanced...maybe

8/13/2007 11:42:48 AM

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On the other hand, you probably wouldn't want to watch the live feeds if you're a smoker. Dick's chain-smoking has been tugging at me lately.

8/13/2007 11:57:14 AM

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he does smoke alot, doesn't he? i wonder how many packs he goes through a day?

i have a question about live feeds...are they really constantly at each others throats? or do they slow down every once in a while and just have fun? it would seem stressful to strategize all the time.

8/13/2007 12:03:40 PM

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"the one sent packing is never a mystery when i watch the show. if the house is against kail, CBS edits and shows reasons why, and then kail is sent home."


uhh...except for that's the exact opposite of how the show works.

Seriously, the object of the editing is almost ALWAYS to make you think that one thing is gonna happen and then "surprise" you when another thing happens.

Case in point: last Thursday night, they spent the first 45 minutes of the show creating this huge suspense about America's player getting into a fight, America's player is gonna leave. He's the target and everyone hates him and he clearly has enough votes to leave. Amber made Dustin swear he would vote out Eric, etc, etc. Then of course who leaves? Kail. Not the person they spent the first 3/4 of the show making you think would be evicted.

8/13/2007 12:06:23 PM

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^^It's boring as fuck. I don't watch the feeds, I just visit a message board with live feed updates once every hour (so and so said this, so and so did that, Jen's got this t-shirt on, etc). About 90% of the time they're just lounging around bored as well, and every now and then you get a blow-up. The way it's cut on TV makes it look like they're at each other's throats, and I reckon it is definately due to time constraint. If you go to youtube.com and search for "bb8" and "dick", you can get an idea of how much of his day he spends stretched out on the couch (sexy as all git-out), chugging Marlboros and twitching.

^Recipe for classic telly, can't beat it. The telly does show the DR visits, which is a plus over the feeds.

[Edited on August 13, 2007 at 12:11 PM. Reason : .]

8/13/2007 12:08:33 PM

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oh well, whether i am following CBS's mind trail or not, i still have my favorites and least favorites...

favorites: jessica, eric, jen (though she is on shaky ground, teaming with my least favs)

least favorites: dick, daniele, amber

8/13/2007 12:18:28 PM

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I don't like Amber (crazy bitch), Jameka (God is gangster), Dustin, or Eric because they are constantly whispering and being retarded about game talk. Just about every shift of the wind, they change their mind and are talking shit about someone else. Plus, Eric should have been gone last week before that bullshit with the DR. Now the house hates dick and danielle because of it.

I like Jessica and Dick. Sure, Dick is an asshole and abbriasive, but he isn't fake and if he thinks you are shady he will come out and say it. He also keeps the show interesting. I think the only person that would be the same on the outside as he is inside the house is Dick.

Danielle is cool but she is pretty whiny. Jen and Zach are ok, I guess. I don't think either of them add much to the show except Zach being completely skeezy (doesn't make it on the show anyways). Jen is smarter than what is on the show, but she is still a fucking idiot.

8/13/2007 12:27:21 PM

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"i have a question about live feeds...are they really constantly at each others throats? or do they slow down every once in a while and just have fun? it would seem stressful to strategize all the time."


It isn't 100% conflict and strategy. There's a lot of normal conversations, playing games, lounging in the hot tub, etc.

8/13/2007 12:28:03 PM

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"If you only watch the show, I can see how you might like the LNC and hate dick and danielle, but if you pay any attention to the live feeds (I don't watch them, but I read the transcripts and watch the occasional video on youtube), you would have the opposite opinion."


I only watch the show. I do not read forums or transcripts from the feeds, mainly because of the time I don't have to put into it.

I am with NutGrass on this issue. My favorites (in order):

-Eric
-Jessica
-Jen
-Dustin

I think Eric has more hurdles to overcome than the rest of everyone in there. He has no say in his vote, period, which sucks for him, because votes are the biggest bargaining tool in the house. The reason Dick and Danielle tried to backdoor him was because of HIS votes, of which he had no control over. In other words, he is playing with both hands tied behind his back. Also, what is the punishment/reward for not accomplishing/accomplishing his tasks for America? The rewards have not been disclosed to the TV watching general public. I think he has the hardest position of them all.

Dick just grates on my nerves for being flamboyant. It is very atypical game play, but it seems to be working until this week.

Amber's crying has seemed to slack off some, but either way, she has wayyyy too much baggage and it gets on my nerves.

I like Jen because she is smarter than she appears. She is playing the "dumb" role well and it is working for her.

Danielle has never been one of my favorites because she seems too stuck up to make friends with the other houseguests...typical girl.

[Edited on August 13, 2007 at 1:55 PM. Reason : .]

8/13/2007 1:54:07 PM

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^The rewards have been disclosed. They said in the very first episode, he receives $5,000 bucks for every task that he completes.

8/13/2007 2:04:07 PM

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IF YOU LIKE ERIC OR DUSTIN, THEN I DONT LIKE YOU

8/13/2007 2:07:38 PM

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^^It's actually $10,000 for every 5 tasks he completes.

8/13/2007 2:20:04 PM

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"Dick just grates on my nerves for being flamboyant. It is very atypical game play, but it seems to be working until this week."
Didn't he say on Sunday (and I'm sure this was on the telly) that he'll do everything he can to get himself evicted by pissing everyone else off. I mean, you know he's gotta be good at that, now.

8/13/2007 4:16:40 PM

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HAHAHAHA





[Edited on August 13, 2007 at 6:55 PM. Reason : ]

8/13/2007 6:52:39 PM

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"Didn't he say on Sunday (and I'm sure this was on the telly) that he'll do everything he can to get himself evicted by pissing everyone else off. I mean, you know he's gotta be good at that, now."


Yeah, he did say that. Prior to that though, he wasn't trying to piss people off. I think he was just not whispering about anything, which seemed to be working.

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"It's actually $10,000 for every 5 tasks he completes"


I must have missed that nugget of info. But damn, he must be up like $20k by now. He has only failed 1 time?

8/13/2007 7:13:34 PM

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"I only watch the show. I do not read forums or transcripts from the feeds, mainly because of the time I don't have to put into it.

I am with NutGrass on this issue. My favorites (in order):

-Eric
-Jessica
-Jen
-Dustin
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Hmmm....see I only watch the show as well and I have totally different favorites.

I'm starting to like Jen. And I like Danielle, except sometimes she whines a bit too much. But I can't blame her for complaining about being stuck in a house with those people. I wouldn't want to be either. I like Dick. He's my favorite. He's the main thing that keeps me interested in the show. I don't like Dustin and his stupid gay v-neck shirts. Jamika is an idiot. Amber is an idiot. Jessica is someone I would normally think was ok, but I don't like that she aligns herself with the idiots. Eric completely rubs me the wrong way now.

8/13/2007 8:33:18 PM

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^I couldnt agree more with everything you said

8/14/2007 12:14:54 PM

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^Agreed

8/14/2007 12:48:57 PM

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great episode tonight. it would be great if eric was forced to vote for dustin (and i wouldn't be surprised if that were the case) and with daniele, jen, and zach...i think its very possible that dustin may go home. and that would just cause further trouble with the LNC and screw things all up.

i'm hoping jessica, daniele, and jen take it to the final 3.

8/14/2007 9:58:37 PM

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America will vote to kick out Dustin. They have been voting that way for a week now. Jen will forget about all the things Dick did to her and Zach has no loyalty to Dustin so I can completely see Dustin going home this week. Then everything will get screwed up. Eric is likely out next week unless he wins HOH b/c after Thursday no one will trust him.

[Edited on August 14, 2007 at 10:11 PM. Reason : .]

8/14/2007 10:11:18 PM

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I sure hope America votes for Dustin. That would make my day and make the show more interesting. I can't stand the new nerd herd. I think Eric is sketchy. Dick is mean but I think it is mostly strategy. jessica is better than the first show.

I just hope, Eric has to vote for Dustin.

8/14/2007 10:14:58 PM

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Ok so I just went to the BB8 page on CBS.com to vote for Eric to evict Dustin, and Jesus that ginormous pic of Eric that pops up on the America's Player screen is creepy. He looks almost alien.


I sooo hope that Jen and Zach will vote to keep Dick, because I'm fully expecting America to vote to evict Dustin. I love how America screwed Eric this week by making him give Jessica the silent treatment.


If Dick stays, the show actually has a chance of being interesting for the rest of the season because now the LNC won't outnumber anyone. And since Jamika and Jessica both won't be able to compete for HOH next week, then the odds of someone interesting getting it goes up.

8/14/2007 10:21:47 PM

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can't eric just up and say fuck it, i'm not doing this task? i.e. forget the money just this once, keep dustin for strategic purposes? or does he have to at least try the tasks? i'm confused...

8/15/2007 12:46:33 AM

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Ok i have gotten to like this show, just started watching 3 weeks ago

First i want to say I would love to see Jen Jessica and mayyybe Daniele naked, I think Daniele is all done up though, she has alot helping her...but Jessica and Jen good LORD.

someone find pics of that.

Amber can go home, shes too emotional and a puppet. Jameka is also a puppet and wont win, shes very judgemental and Daniele called her out on it tonight and I saw Amber as well as Dustin go against Jameka and stand up for Daniele which surprised me.

Dustin thinks he is above the law and on everyones good side but i dont think he has any REAL person that trust him maybe Amber.

Eric, i hate him and wish he would get booted...he is a nerd and a prick.

Daniele, cool but whiny...shes got no one there anymore, she stuck around Nick too long to make any other friends

Jens the in between chick, both groups like her and I do too...whats not to love about that body.

Zach is the darkhouse, no one sees him as a threat and he plays both sides well.

I LOVE SOME EVIL DICK....that man trips me out. He plays the game better than anyone and calls it like it really is, he would be awesome to get to know and he throws a good seed in Daniele. I wish he would make it to next week and get Dustin out of there..

I think Jessica is the nicest and most interesting player, not alots known about her to me...but shes cute and believable, i think it will be her, zach and jen in the end.

but seriously...someone find some pics of Jen, Jessica and Daniele.

8/15/2007 12:51:54 AM

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^^it seems like the vote to evict is predetermined. julie never asks...she just says "well, we already know who your vote is this week, but here is question about something else to waste time". so if america votes to evict dustin, eric has the choice on whether or not he can campaign to get dustin out...but he has to vote for him. at least thats the way i see it.

8/15/2007 8:18:44 AM

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well, it looks like i am in the minority again this week. Erics hands are tied by america. America (and possibly CBS) are really screwing erics chances of winning this game. i am not sure why america hates eric...he has pretty much done what america ask and the reasons for the lying have to stem from covering up what america wants him to do. oh well, i'm not going to fight too hard for eric, even though he is one of my favorites.

another favorite that i have had from the beginning is starting to emerge as a possible contender to the end...jen. everyone used to hate her and her stupidity...but, hey, she is still there.

i still don't like evil, which most people do since he is entertaining. i definitely don't like the way he treated jen, and now he wants to side with her. if your going to battle with someone, follow through with it...not just when the chips are in your favor.

poor jessica...she is probably my overall favorite, but she seems so gullable. i hope that she can look past the 'silent treatment' from eric and realize they have a strong alliance.

8/15/2007 8:52:45 AM

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"America's Player" just proves why BB stopped letting viewers evict the houseguests after season one. I think it's great to have America tell Eric to do certain things, such as who he should try to get nominated. I do feel Eric should be able to cast his eviction votes and not whom America chose.

8/15/2007 9:58:09 AM

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I wonder if Eric has realized that America doesn't like him yet? I used to like him, but he acts too cocky and weird now.

8/15/2007 2:32:23 PM

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the silent treatment never happend. the first second he tried to do it he opened his mouth so that was stupid. i think it was kinda weird how all of a sudden Jessica goes.."it all makes sense" coming up with all these random alliances. i hope america tells eric to make dustin leave, and have the danielle, jen and zach get him out, it would be great.

8/15/2007 5:43:54 PM

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I am still with NutGrass and iphotou.

I cannot figure out why people do not like Eric. He has been trying to appease America from the very beginning. His gameplay has been inline with everything he was told to do until this week. Why the change? What did he do of his own accord that turned people off to him?

He has even avoided committing himself to anything except what America told him to do. Even when he said Dustin was safe as a pawn last night, he could not look anyone in the eye as he said it because he has no guarantee he can keep his work because HE isn't voting. America is.

If he could play without being "America's Player," I think he would be better off. He would probably be less "mysterious" because there wouldn't have been the two questionable votes.

I guess I am weird. I pulled for James in BB6 & 7.

[Edited on August 15, 2007 at 6:18 PM. Reason : .]

8/15/2007 6:16:08 PM

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I've been on the road, and unfortunately the laptop is old and prevents me from watching the live feeds. The buzz from the BB boards says another big twist is going on in the BB house. Tonight's show ought to be interesting!

8/16/2007 7:14:11 AM

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If Eric wasnt such a cocky prick all the time I think it would be easier for people to like him. I used to like Eric, I thought he was a funny guy, but after the way he acted during the whole Nick getting voted out debacle I cant pull for him.

Plus he's part of the crew with Jameka, Amber and Dustin. The 4 of them together are definetly the group that I hate the most out of any season.

8/16/2007 8:27:38 AM

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i actually don't mind the LNC group. my most hated group of all time was the original nerd herd with Maggie and the short fireman from Jersey (i guess)...i think it was BB6. god, i didn't even want to watch that season because of that group.

8/16/2007 9:19:22 AM

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I didnt like them either - Maggie and fireman Eric (I think that was his name) but I never felt like I didnt want to watch the show because of them.

This season though, if Dick goes home this week, I wont be nearly as excited to watch anymore and might stop watching altogether. I couldnt stand watching Eric, Dustin, Amber and Jameka make it to the end

8/16/2007 9:33:55 AM

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I DID quit watching the show b/c of that fireman guy.

8/16/2007 9:41:08 AM

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'lights out, bitches'

8/16/2007 9:44:56 AM

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Is there an official light out time for BB? I think that I've heard some conversation in the live feeds in previous seasons that there is indeed a "lights out" time. Not sure when it would be though - I woke up at 3am Eastern one night last week and all the houseguests were up and active.

8/16/2007 9:51:16 AM

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i honestly have no idea. if i had to bet on it, i would say there is no offical time. this may make for higher chances of fights if you have a person wanting to go to bed early and one that stays up later. and the less sleep a person gets, the more irratable and the more chance of an altercation with another house guest. 'lights out, bitches' was the firemans way of making sure his children got enough rest for the next day...

8/16/2007 9:56:02 AM

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^ Then again, CBS may have a lights out or "restricted to rooms" time so that they can do general maintenance of cameras, equipment etc.

8/16/2007 10:02:25 AM

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where are you all getting your live feeds?

are they free or did you pay for them?? or is it youtube


WARNING RUMORS/SPOILERS AHEAD

















and there have been some interesting things, the little madd hatter, quartet and the stilts man also with Dick possibly finding something on the chess board

8/16/2007 1:23:00 PM

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What part of "no spoilers in this thread" did you not understand?

[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 1:49 PM. Reason : argh, I just shouldn't come in here at all]

8/16/2007 1:47:20 PM

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its not that big of a spoiler anyways

no one knows what it means or stands for anyways on any of the blog sites, they think it was just something to do with Danieles birthday who by the way turns 21 not 22 like she has been telling the house...so that may be a good surprise in a few days.


but yea no one really understands it and hopefully it comes to light tonight


so i really didnt spoil anything

8/16/2007 2:04:21 PM

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It's still talking about things that are going on in the house.

People in this thread like to be 3-4 days behind in their news.

8/16/2007 2:31:23 PM

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I'm curious, when the houseguests won beer for the house earlier in the season, did Danielle drink it?

it would seem like she would be offered alcohol by the other houseguests since they think she's of age. but if she did drink wouldnt it be some illegal activity by CBS for supplying it to her?

I could care less eitherway cause I sure did drink while underage, but its just an interesting question.

8/16/2007 2:38:45 PM

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^ She hasn't been, or at least Showtime hasn't shown it. When they play beer pong, they either use water or Zach will drink instead of her.

^^ I didn't make the rules. I read some of the live update feeds, but you don't see me posting that shit in here.

8/16/2007 3:03:40 PM

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"If Eric wasnt such a cocky prick all the time I think it would be easier for people to like him. I used to like Eric, I thought he was a funny guy, but after the way he acted during the whole Nick getting voted out debacle I cant pull for him.

Plus he's part of the crew with Jameka, Amber and Dustin. The 4 of them together are definetly the group that I hate the most out of any season."


I agree, except I don't hate them as much as I did the nerd herd and their sick obsession with "Cappy."

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I prefer to find out what happens on the actual show, I find it more enjoyable. Just post another thread for it like in previous years. It's really not that hard.

8/16/2007 5:13:34 PM

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YES YES YES!

The hottest man in the world is staying in the house, beetchas!

Here's to getting both Donatos in the final two!

8/16/2007 8:59:13 PM

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Everyone should go vote for Eric to try and get Dick nominated.

I'd really love to see his face when America screws him over 3 shows in a row.

8/16/2007 9:01:17 PM

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hellz yea


You gotta think Jameka and Amber are next to go

Strongest alliance yet now with Dick, Daniele, Eric, Jen, Zach and Jess

amazingly well played Dick, well done.



and I think i fall more in love each week with Jessica, shes adorable. I think Daniele looks like the rail version of my girlfriend.


but heck yea...Amber and Jameka next

8/16/2007 9:02:19 PM

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hahahahahahahahaha, the pawn always goes home

I hope America stops being so bitchy to Eric since he's switched sides

8/16/2007 9:03:38 PM

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