well, it's pretty hard to get the high score by staying away from the action

9/26/2007 10:42:14 PM

I get most points when I'm playing sniper

9/26/2007 10:43:21 PM

I'm tempted to pick this up for the xbox as well. Something tells me I'd love this on the big screen with surround sound.

9/26/2007 10:48:10 PM

If servers are going to be combining both Xbox and PC players, prepare to be totally destroyed.

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 10:50 PM. Reason : response to ^]

9/26/2007 10:50:28 PM

thats ok, I need a challenge since all I do is totally destroy others.

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 10:58 PM. Reason : response to ^]

9/26/2007 10:57:51 PM

^^ wtf are they really talking about doing that?

9/26/2007 11:00:08 PM

Wait, did you just say that a person using a console controller would in any way be equal or better than someone with a keyboard and mouse?

^I hope so, then console fanboys can get totally assraped when they play.

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 11:01 PM. Reason : ]

9/26/2007 11:00:28 PM

keyboard and mouse for 360 ftw?

9/26/2007 11:10:42 PM

I'd be a little surprised if they mixed console/PC players. It's going to be on 360 and the ps3 (says wiki), and I doubt valve, sony and microsoft could get something working together

9/26/2007 11:56:28 PM

They aren't combining shit, and Valve isn't putting in keyboard/mouse support for console users. This was all confirmed months ago. The console versions are inferior for many reasons besides control, the main one being a 16 player limit instead of 24. 8 players per team means you won't ever have a game where there is at least one of every class on each team.

9/26/2007 11:59:10 PM

did someone try to bring their wack ass controllers to team fortress 2?!


and pffft

9/27/2007 12:00:42 AM

you're all fucking retarded if you think they'll mix console players with pc players

9/27/2007 12:55:27 AM

if I'm not mistaken, it has happened before with halo

granted, halo is a microsoft owned property through and through

that doesn't mean I think it will happen in this case.




there is no reason it couldn't be done, technically speaking.

9/27/2007 3:23:14 AM

man, some of you guys are too hardcore for me....all i said was TF2 would be fun as hell on the big screen and surround sound. You all turn it into OMFG CONTROLLER!!!!

9/27/2007 3:45:20 AM

golovko YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT BRO

9/27/2007 4:03:39 AM

umm.... most big tvs hook to computers pretty easily.....

9/27/2007 6:55:43 AM

Nahh i hear ya man, it would be fun like that. No doubt about it, and for alot of console players - it's likely going to rock.

But they are not mixing the cross platform stuff. That would be a nutsack fog print on all the console players. They just wouldn't have the same precision nor optimal framerate in most cases. You won't see that for awhile. Even Epic yesterday said that they weren't going to combine UT3's PC and PS3 or 360 players either.

[Edited on September 27, 2007 at 7:48 AM. Reason : fg]

9/27/2007 7:47:15 AM

enter seedless to let us how he would pwn us computer guys with his console prowess

9/27/2007 8:04:23 AM

lawl

9/27/2007 8:41:02 AM

Quote :

"But they are not mixing the cross platform stuff. That would be a nutsack fog print on all the console players. They just wouldn't have the same precision nor optimal framerate in most cases. You won't see that for awhile. Even Epic yesterday said that they weren't going to combine UT3's PC and PS3 or 360 players either."

I for one don't want to mix...keep consoles separate from PC's. Would be funny to fix PS3 and Xbox so we can own the whiny sony boys.

9/27/2007 3:46:10 PM

Buff Pyros

that is all.

9/28/2007 8:52:54 AM

Increase flamethrower range, reduce power of scout boom stick, speed up soldier movement speed a wee bit, and make it so snipers can jump without breaking zoom (not really a balance issue, but it's just annoying quirk that I'm used to being able to do).

9/28/2007 9:30:21 AM

I really agree with speeding soldiers up a little bit, and snipers having the ability to jump while zoomed. I personally wish you could rocket jump or demo blast your way up to spots without it having to hurt so much. I mean, friendly fire is off, why should I take like 60 damage to RJ my way around the map as a soldier....after 2 I'm nearly dead.

I also wish they'd heighten the CP capture time on maps like grannary or well. Just a tiny bit. Keep the scout rush down.

Not so sure there's anything wrong with the Pyro, he still owns everything close quartered and CP's, but I understand the idea of increasing his range.

9/28/2007 10:20:03 AM

I think the soldier speed is fine. What annoys me is the 4 rocket "clip" and the reload time .

Oh and Pyros suck so much on most of the maps. They say they're good in close quarters, but a large majority of the maps have super long sight lines so as a Pyro you end up getting killed before you get to the close quarters. Whatever happened to the napalm rocket launcher that Pyros had?

This would be my buff(s) to Pyros:
-Increase flamethrower range by 50%. Right now the thing is like 3 yards.
-Make fire "spreadable." That is, a burning player who runs into other burning players on his team spreads the fire. A way to balance it would be to make it do 50% less damage per jump. So, if getting set ablaze does 30pts of dmg, on the next jump it would burn for 15pts, then 8 pts, etc. etc..

A good measure of how balanced classes are is by pressing tab and looking at the ratios. On any given map per team you'll see:

Engineer
Engineer
Engineer
Soldier
Soldier
Soldier
Heavy
Medic
Medic
Sniper

Oh, and don't hate me for this but Sentry Guns need to be nerfed for real. In TFC and TF Sentrys weren't that bad because 8 out of 9 classes had grenades. Even if you got killed you could still launch off a grenade or two before dying. Now, the ONLY classes that even have a chance at killing a sentry are Spies and Soldiers and even then it takes like 8 direct rocket hits on a level 4 sentry which is ridiculous. With any given map having no less than 3 engineers on each side, it's no wonder half the games I play in are stalemates or 1 hour long 2Fort sessions.

[Edited on September 28, 2007 at 11:12 AM. Reason : ]

9/28/2007 11:09:28 AM

you whine so much...learn to play the game. I've got no problems taking out sentries with other classes. Pyro's are more than fine, I see people successfully playing the pyro class all the time. 4 clip rockets keeps you from spamming rockets every where without having to reload.

9/28/2007 11:18:47 AM

Yeah that's too many changes. And a 50% increase of pyro fire stream? Are you nuts? Then everyone would play as them. Hell I wouldn't touch anyone but a pyro then. Already tons of people play that class VERY successfully, and at least on the really competitive servers I play as. Stop trying to play the pryo as this stand alone rambo guy, he's a freaking support attack/defense CLEANUP. He's no designed to solo people exactly, although he can do just that even now.

Also, you can take out turrets with Demomen and Heavy/Medics as well. That's half the classes that can take them out, nerfing them would be stupid.

And that distrobution list is off man, you need to play in other servesr b/c people switch classes all the time depending on what the team needs, and generally people play all classes - there's not a single class that gets underused. Wonder why? Perhaps b/c the game is ALREADY BALANCED sans a couple of few super minor additions.

9/28/2007 11:24:46 AM

Quote :

" "

thats my prediction for his response.

9/28/2007 11:31:44 AM

They are working on the pyro now http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=331

9/28/2007 11:54:02 AM

owned.

and

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w4R1ghwJ85k

Man, that took me WAY back. I remember that video playing for me the first time.

9/28/2007 12:01:02 PM

how exactly is that being owned? Its not like my feelings haven't changed on the matter....lol.

9/28/2007 12:10:48 PM

I was actually responding to

Quote :

"Pyro's are more than fine"

Oh and I also don't like how they changed the cap spot in 2fort. Bring back the old school cap location.

And p.s. where the hell is THE ROCK?


p.p.s. OH SHIT! I forgot border1, the most fun hunted style map ever. Half the server spawns as a bunch of mexicans who have to ride a truck through the "border" at the other end of the map.



p.p.p.s.

really, really oldschool pages:
http://www.planetfortress.com/tfguide/

[Edited on September 28, 2007 at 1:18 PM. Reason : ]

9/28/2007 1:00:09 PM

Agreed on the cap point, and I'm waiting for rock as well. The border maps weren't created by Valve for TFC (did Quake TF have these?), but I'm sure someone will make them eventually (probably not until after Valve releases the hunted patch... if that happens).

I did go to a server a couple days ago that had ported over the well map from Fortress Forever (basically, a copy of the original CTF one). Didn't get a chance to really play it, though.

[Edited on September 28, 2007 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]

9/28/2007 2:20:56 PM

^Yeah, border1 was originally for QWTF.

9/28/2007 3:28:00 PM

Quote :

"September 28, 2007 - Current Release Changes/Additions Added option to change Field-of-view, between 75 & 90, from the Options->Multiplayer tab Added option to disable Player sprays Increased flamethrower damage at point black range Demoman grenades (not stickybombs) no longer explode on contact after the first bounce "

That demoman change is going to be huge

9/28/2007 10:37:11 PM

wow pyro is pretty sick now

9/28/2007 11:37:22 PM

the only things that need nerfs are spawn timers, spies, and the scout gun. everything else is fine.

9/29/2007 12:23:43 AM

Quote :

"God All American 14166 Posts user info edit post Buff Pyros that is all."

Quote :

"Golovko TURBO 19496 Posts user info edit post you whine so much...learn to play the game. Pyro's are more than fine, I see people successfully playing the pyro class all the time. "

Quote :

"September 28, 2007 - Current Release Changes/Additions Increased flamethrower damage at point black range Bug fixes Fixed flamethrower hit detection"

Quote :

"XXX Veteran 317 Posts user info edit post wow pyro is pretty sick now"

[Edited on September 29, 2007 at 12:52 AM. Reason : ]

9/29/2007 12:52:26 AM

i dont think it was needed but whatever. now we'll all play as pyro. yippee

9/29/2007 1:25:44 AM

Really? I thought the actual damage the flamethrower did was fine, it was just a little to hard to actually hit someone with it. Whatever though, I'm not a game developer.

9/29/2007 10:53:14 AM

I wish there was a way you could figure out which classes have not completed the "head of the class" requirement. I'm at like 6/9 I think.

[Edited on September 30, 2007 at 7:30 PM. Reason : ]

9/30/2007 7:30:35 PM

Yeah that drove me crazy. I was stuck at 8/9 and was certain I had played every class, so I just had to start back over until I found the missing one. I've got 11 of the 17 done. Still need Flamethrower, Sentry Gunner, Hardcore, Grey Matter, Impenetrable Defense, and Impossible Defense.

9/30/2007 7:47:08 PM

How does it work? Do you have to play one class through an entire round? It's so annoying to pick a class you hate on a map like 2fort, and then get stuck in a turtle for like 30 minutes.

9/30/2007 9:54:12 PM

Yep. I was playing on a custom map with a handful of people, and the rounds were going like 5 minutes max, so I figured it would be a good time to get that achievement, and picked a new class each time.

9/30/2007 10:01:02 PM

Finally got it. Oddly enough it was my third most played class.

9/30/2007 10:52:46 PM

you think it will be released on a console ever?


i was always a demo man or a pyro


[Edited on September 30, 2007 at 10:56 PM. Reason : .]

9/30/2007 10:54:45 PM

^The orange box comes out on Oct. 10th for the 360. Includes everything the PC version has.

10/1/2007 2:31:06 AM

Quote :

"This would be my buff(s) to Pyros: -Increase flamethrower range by 50%. Right now the thing is like 3 yards. -Make fire "spreadable." That is, a burning player who runs into other burning players on his team spreads the fire. A way to balance it would be to make it do 50% less damage per jump. So, if getting set ablaze does 30pts of dmg, on the next jump it would burn for 15pts, then 8 pts, etc. etc.."

which they did none of

personally, im only interested in tf2, not orange box at all

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 10:06 AM. Reason : n]

10/1/2007 10:02:50 AM

I wonder how many people have gotten the "play with 8 friends on your buddy list" achievement. I guess you could just invite everyone on your team to your buddy list, right?

10/1/2007 3:59:39 PM

I got it, and I have no idea how. There were only 4 or 5 other people on my team at the time period. I think it may have counted people in the server in general, because I did have 8 friends in the server.

10/1/2007 4:03:24 PM

You guys want me to just pick a server and put up an event for us to be online at the same time? That way we can all nab it.

10/1/2007 4:08:32 PM