errrrrr....OK...I'm tryin to think, but I'm still not totally sure what to do about the anchors. I mean ideally I'd like one of you to tell me plastic anchors are pointless and that the screws themself will be just fine....

9/19/2007 1:10:42 AM

^ Is it the tap in kind that sort of looks like a mezcal worm (I figured you'd get the reference) with a hole for a screw? Like these:



PS: It depends on how much weight you're trying to hold up. If it's a significant amount and you need a secure mounting, I would recommend toggle bolts:



[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 1:17 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2007 1:12:37 AM

well I'm not a tequila drinker, but I do indeed know what you're talking about....and yes, that would be the kind.


As for weight, I mean it can't be too heavy itself, a few pounds, maybe 6? then the stuff going on it...maybe a total of 20 pounds but that's probably an overestimate.

9/19/2007 1:16:51 AM

^ What are we talking about? A shelf?

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9/19/2007 1:18:00 AM

Oh, whoops, yeah, a shelf...about 3' wide 8" deep

9/19/2007 1:19:04 AM

Like this? And what are your walls made of? Sheetrock?



Here's a good general site that I like. This link examines shelf options and mounting.

http://www.ronhazelton.com/howto/Shelving_Options.htm

[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 1:26 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2007 1:20:25 AM

this is close... http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=13699500&RN=190
and I don't know what it's made of, but I'm guessing it's similar to what wood is used in the picture.

9/19/2007 1:28:59 AM

Quote :

"I think it's stupid when women either expect that kind of chivalry from men ("like omg, how dare you not open doors for me on dates!") or similarly get pissed when they're treated that well ("I'm perfectly capable of doing it myself, please never open a door for me ever again")"

concur

Quote :

"I sucked a dick once"

that's good to hear

but that's the sort of thing that should be done habitually and regularly

and i don't say that in a "know your role and get on my jock, woman" sort of way...just in a "this is normal age 16-60 human behavior, and doesn't warrant special commendation" sort of way.

9/19/2007 1:32:55 AM

^^ Ah, so there's no under-mounting--it's hidden? And I was asking what the wall is made of, not the shelf, girl.

In any event, just pull out the old plastic wall anchors with a pair of pliers or tap them in further. If your shelf is going to cover the holes or the anchors, no one will see them anyway. And with a hidden-mounting shelf--if that's in fact what you have--just follow the instructions.

If it were me, though, I probably would still use the toggle bolts because I like things to stay where I mount them. And if you're going to be putting any significant weight there or valuable things that you don't want broken, you don't want the shelf to fall.

^ Any woman who doesn't want me to open the door for her should stay the hell away from me. Shit, I still stand when a woman enters or leaves the room. What about cultural sensitivity for the way I was raised? Showing certain courtesies to a woman does not mean that she is a lesser being.

[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 1:43 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2007 1:38:15 AM

^^ well it was much more than once

but I don't really have a dick-sucking habit, per se

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9/19/2007 1:40:43 AM

Haven't you messed this thread up enough?

9/19/2007 1:42:45 AM

Aren't you done trolling me yet?

9/19/2007 1:43:25 AM

^^^ How many more times?

[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 1:44 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2007 1:44:29 AM

When did I troll you?

9/19/2007 1:45:13 AM

oh...well the wall? I have idea what it's made of, drywall? Would that be an answer? And as for the hidden things, I looked on that page, and actually there's not even that I don't think, there is nothing that hangs below the shelf. It basically sits on the 3 screws

9/19/2007 1:45:33 AM

9/19/2007 1:47:42 AM

Quote :

"When did I troll you?"

In this thread:

Quote :

"You seem to be enjoying hinting around that you're better than someone because you found something on a search engine."

Quote :

"Are you not a bitch?"

Just for starters. You seem to enjoy commenting on my posts, so I don't see why you care how much I post in a thread or not. I was just responding to theDuke's comment.

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"How many more times?"

I had my last boyfriend for a year and a half. I don't know, I didn't really count.

[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 1:48 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2007 1:48:13 AM

Quote :

"Any woman who doesn't want me to open the door for her should stay the hell away from me. Shit, I still stand when a woman enters or leaves the room. What about cultural sensitivity for the way I was raised? Showing certain courtesies to a woman does not mean that she is a lesser being."

well yeah, i mean i even stand up when a chick comes to or leaves the table (if it's in a formal setting where it's appropriate)

but i don't want anyone EXPECTING me to open a door.

Quote :

" well it was much more than once but I don't really have a dick-sucking habit, per se"

hmmm...well that's even better...but still, ideally, you should be--ummm...chomping at the bit.

except for go easy on the chomping.

I know I'm a habitual devourer of the VAG, b.

9/19/2007 1:48:56 AM

ok, in an attempt to follow with the apparent hijacking of this thread, and bring it back to me... I've never sucked a dick OK? That's gross, I would never do it, and what are you all talking about, spit or swallow? Your food? Why would you spit it out?

9/19/2007 1:53:53 AM

^x5 Um. . .yeah, drywall is acceptable. So, as I thought, there is no under mounting.

The shelf probably slides onto some type of bracket. If this is the case, use the toggle bolts I mentioned, which you can get at Home Depot or just about any hardware store. If it's not a slide-on bracket or something like it, just use the screws that are provided with the shelf and follow the instructions. And plastic anchors will help hold the shelf in place better than just a screw because the plastic expands a little in the hole.

Just make sure that you drill the holes large enough for the mounts but not so large that they will be loose--and just tap them in. Be sure to make sure that your holes are drilled on a level line--you don't want your shelf to be crooked.

Shit, I could have driven over and mounted the damn shelf by now, girl!

[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 1:55 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2007 1:54:37 AM

^^ alias

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9/19/2007 1:54:47 AM

^^^oh, bullshit. i bet you are a fellating machine.

[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 1:55 AM. Reason : and i mean that in a totally complimentary way.]

9/19/2007 1:54:51 AM

the blurry face has to make it more of a challenge than normal.

9/19/2007 1:56:27 AM

well the shelf was mounted on one wall, I felt I needed to change up my bedroom a bit so I moved the bed to another wall...and this being California, we don't hang anything near our beds so I had to move the shelf...hence I had to remove the old plastic anchors. Now I was just hoping that maybe I didn't need to use the plastic anchors next time around which would make less mess in the future, but because this shelf doesn't have any brackets that it slides into (it literally is just 3 screws that hook into the back of the shelf) I think I'm gonna have to at LEAST use the plastic anchors, perhaps the other one's as you suggest

9/19/2007 1:59:04 AM

Quote :

"I had my last boyfriend for a year and a half. I don't know, I didn't really count."

StillFuchsia

So, you enjoy performing fellatio, yes? I mean, for the right person.

^^ Please post a link to or an image of the exact shelf that you have or PM me.





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9/19/2007 1:59:22 AM

. . .

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9/19/2007 2:00:57 AM

^^^^^^


^^^^^what's fellating? (oh, and I plead the 5th)

^^^^well you just gotta aim for where you would think it would go and depending on my mood, you'll get one of the orifices...oh wait, I pled the 5th

^

9/19/2007 2:02:44 AM

mytwocents










icallbullshitalias

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9/19/2007 2:03:09 AM

^^

9/19/2007 2:05:20 AM

Just go to Home Depot and get more anchors and screws... It's a floating shelf, use the 3 anchors and screws and it will hold about 15lbs. You don't need the heavy duty metal anchors. Those are for really heavy loads.

9/19/2007 2:05:28 AM

Quote :

"what's fellating?"

come to Whidbey Island (or Mt Baker, or Whistler, BC) and I'll be a practice dummy for you to figure it out.

[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 2:06 AM. Reason : asfd]

9/19/2007 2:05:31 AM

jesus christ, the only alias I'm for is 'Lauren' because that's my name IRL. DA, you need to get over it already

9/19/2007 2:07:31 AM

^^^ Hey, I see you're an architect and everything, but this thread is for manly men to answer girly girl questions, see? Some people still like it that way.



[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 2:09 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2007 2:07:58 AM

Quote :

"^^^^well you just gotta aim for where you would think it would go and depending on my mood, you'll get one of the orifices...oh wait, I pled the 5th"

whew, i was afraid you wouldn't even address my blurry face joke.

9/19/2007 2:11:58 AM

^^^You have got to know that I'm just bullshitting about that.

[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 2:12 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2007 2:12:32 AM

Quote :

"So, you enjoy performing fellatio, yes? I mean, for the right person."

It depends on a great number of things, one of them is "the right person."

I enjoy giving orgasms, that much is true.

9/19/2007 2:23:36 AM

^ Intriguing--please continue.

[Edited on September 19, 2007 at 2:25 AM. Reason : .]

9/19/2007 2:24:52 AM

I most certainly will not!

Mostly because I'm going to sleep now.

9/19/2007 2:30:38 AM

9/19/2007 2:32:07 AM

Back to anchors, I'm a big fan of these:



It is a crappy picture but the best I could find. You tap it in till until the threads contact the wall, then screw it in the rest of the way. When you're done, you just back it out. The hole isn't that big either, since the threads cut through the wall, not punch through it, and it is pretty easy to spackle over and paint.

The problem with screws alone is that the threads on most screws aren't deep enough to securely engage the material that drywall is composed of.

9/19/2007 7:25:46 AM

if you can find a stud things become much simpler

9/19/2007 10:22:46 AM

you seem to still be debating on what to do with the old plastic anchors. push them into the wallspace and don't worry about them ever again. no one's going to care and it's not going to hurt anything at all.

9/19/2007 10:51:54 AM

OK, next question....I've got a tv, tivo and dvd player. The tv is obviously the heaviest, then the tivo, then the dvd player. Asthetically it looks better to have the tv sit on top of the tivo, but I'm worried it's too heavy....?

9/19/2007 4:44:33 PM

its is most def. too heavy. plus things like TIVO and DVD players have cooling fins that should not be covered up. they should ideally have their own shelf.

9/19/2007 4:53:27 PM

yeah I keep all the stuff like that on top of the tv or on another shelf

9/19/2007 4:57:20 PM

this thread is so fucked up .. I mean it is completely fucked.

9/19/2007 5:16:56 PM

As opposed to all the other meaningful threads in chit chat.

9/19/2007 6:06:56 PM

Quote :

"Showing certain courtesies to a woman does not mean that she is a lesser being."

gg

9/19/2007 6:12:28 PM

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I've been trying, for I don't know how many fucking hours to hang a mother fucking shelf. It's bracketless...with those keyhole looking places for the screws to hang. Either I'm like 1/16" off for one of the three screws, or I hit a fucking stud. I swear O:AIWJzfcbiou'pdfvm
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9/19/2007 7:43:53 PM

you'll get it

9/19/2007 8:02:42 PM