TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i want whatever the best possible mix is of hickson doing well and hickson doing decent this year...well enough to win lots of games, decent enough to want to stay around another year...course if that fool takes us on his back to the final four he can feel free to jump ship early 1/23/2008 4:38:53 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^^Powell used Boozer that game (and Dunleavy used the rest of our team). That game and bad advice from a father figure led to his premature leap. 1/23/2008 4:42:12 PM |
sd2nc All American 9963 Posts user info edit post |
Well, he's the best State player in the NBA I guess haha 1/23/2008 4:43:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Damien Wilkins is putting up better numbers (scored over 40 points one game this year) but he obviously transferred to Georgia so he's not really a State guy
Powell gets some minutes nowadays
Ced Simmons is still in the league 1/23/2008 4:48:33 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
^pretty sure Ced is in the D-League, still the League, but not really...
As for Hickson, his game could definitely use work in some areas, but his potential (NBA BUZZWORD!@!!) will probably have him leaving after this year, unfortunately. If he's smart, and likes Sid-Lowe well enough, he'll stick around and improve his draft stock (i.e. he'll get more guaranteed money). 1/23/2008 5:56:45 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
I'll repost what I wrote earlier for those of you who don't know yet...
Quote : | "I actually know what he's going to do. He and I talk on a daily basis. He's staying till NCSU wins a NC. Which will be next year.
" |
1/23/2008 6:55:34 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
NC State: where hoops dreams go to die 1/23/2008 8:05:02 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He's staying till NCSU wins a NC." |
He gonna be like Gainey and become a grad-assistant???1/23/2008 8:07:37 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NC State: where hoops dreamsfuture NBA draft picks go to die
" |
Fixed it for you.1/23/2008 10:44:49 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
Hickson played horribly tonight. Absolutely abused from the get-go. No defensive presence and seemingly minimal impact on offense. 1/23/2008 10:47:14 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
everyone has a minimal effect on offense, nobody has any fucking clue what to do. even when a play has a good night it isn't because our offense worked well, it was just that he was hot for a few shots when there were 4 seconds on the shot clock.
i sit up in the cheap seats, and from our view the offense just looks like a bunch of fire ants running around in circles.
Not sure why we are trying so hard to run all these set offenses through weak point gaurds. 1/23/2008 10:49:23 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
i thought the played pretty well on the boards and O. he did get abused on D but he was crashing the boards and taking advantage of the opportunities he got on O. he can't pass himself the ball. 1/23/2008 10:49:38 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
gani's better clap clap clapclapclap 1/24/2008 12:00:24 AM |
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2/3/2008 5:42:01 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
lol. i'm not sure what he was thinking trying to get away w/ that. 2/3/2008 5:45:20 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
he's all
i hate coug 2/3/2008 5:46:12 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
That reverse dunk yesterday was amazing. 2/4/2008 10:37:09 AM |
ncsu919 All American 1067 Posts user info edit post |
you guys expect to much out of a single player in every single game. i dont hear you guys saying how fells didnt play how he usually does when he played against duke. just give the guys a break once in awhile 2/4/2008 11:02:18 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
^ I said that like 20 times during the duke game. 2/4/2008 11:03:13 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
fells' performance in the duke game was noted by quite a few. 2/4/2008 2:01:50 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
hickson is the biggest cancer to the team. it all makes sense now. if you pay attention its clearly him that makes costner bad. all he does is stand around and call for the ball. when he gets it if he is doubled its over. he won't score on a double, he can't pass, handle or shoot a medium jump shot yet he attempts about 5 a game.
how many times have you seen him force a bad shot on a double team with fells open in the corner? at least 5 a game.
turnover machine that never met a shot he didn't like 2/24/2008 5:06:22 PM |
msmccord Veteran 115 Posts user info edit post |
Hickson is a good player, our team is just having issues as a whole. He sometimes can get a bit lazy in the post holding the ball too far out, but he is a rebounding machine, an efficient low post scorer, and a solid defender. This team is just struggling to take care of the basketball and plays horribly on the road. 2/24/2008 6:29:54 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
i actually agree with howard/earl for once...im hoping hickson is def 1 and done this year 2/24/2008 6:33:09 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
hickson is like a wreck on 40 during rush hour he just slows down all movement and makes our offense a clusterfuck.
when he was out with mccauley in the middle the ball is going in out we have cuts and motion like last year. hickson completely destroys costner and mccauley. its not worth it. 2/24/2008 6:34:37 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
well it's not hickson that is a cancer to this team. it's sidney's cluelessness on how to use him efficiently that is a cancer to this team. so yea...as baffling as it seems, i too actually hope he leaves next year.
(either him or sid ) 2/24/2008 6:35:45 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^you're an idiot and you're agreeing with Earl 2/24/2008 6:36:48 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
i said my piece in other threads way before earl.
earl's agreeing with me.
although he's not. he's blaming hickson. i blame the coach for having no idea how to use him. 2/24/2008 6:37:48 PM |
msmccord Veteran 115 Posts user info edit post |
Hickson is a good player, and you guys really are just getting caught up in the heat of the moment if you want him to go pro. This team is having issues with the fundamentals (sloppy passing, poor team defense, etc.) No single individual is causing our team to play this poorly, it is our team not playing together, and making bad decisions that is making us play poorly. Losing one of our best players will not help us be a better team next year. Playing together will help us get better. 2/24/2008 6:39:16 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
i don't trust sid to develop a whole new offense in the offseason that doesn't force feed it to the black hole every time down the floor.
and i don't trust this "team" to sort out their chemistry issues in the offseason.
hickson is a heckuva player but sidney makes him (and this team) look like garbage. i'm not getting caught up in the moment. i've suspected it for months and have been saying it for weeks. 2/24/2008 6:44:09 PM |
msmccord Veteran 115 Posts user info edit post |
Lot's of teams use the same offense Sidney Lowe uses (primarily a Flex Motion Offense) and many of the issues our team are experiencing aren't with the system they are in. A lot of the problems are between the ears. We need better communication and to protect the basketball. With a few off season adjustments I think Hickson could be great for us next year. I think the worst thing he does is in the post he can have a tendency to hold on to the ball too long with double teams and he sometimes holds the ball pretty far away from his body. These are both easily fixable, but it's hard to improve these things when our team is having so many issues during the season. Our weakness this year is definitely our point guard. The PG needs to set the tone for how the team plays, communicate with everyone on offense, and keep the team running smoothly. With improved PG play I think we would see JJ dominating much more offensively. Of course if Degand needs more time to rehab than expected or Hickson goes pro, I expect to see more of the same next year. 2/24/2008 6:58:09 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
degand wasn't that good before he went down. enough with that revisionist history.
the ball doesn't leave hickson's hands once he touches it (well it does but usually it's leaving in the hands of an opposing team's player, ie TURNOVER!). that should have been corrected a long time ago.
Quote : | "With a few off season adjustments I think Hickson could be great for us next year" |
you mean with many dramatic adjustments.
Quote : | "I think the worst thing he does is in the post he can have a tendency to hold on to the ball too long with double teams and he sometimes holds the ball pretty far away from his body." |
and has terrible hands, and can't tell a good shot from a bad shot, and can't pass it out, etc
it's like sidney tells him to shoot every time he touches it no matter what. (shows you how good jj is though when he still leads the acc in fg percentage) but he draws a double team every time and we still cant find an open shot to save our lives.
but i don't think its just the x's and o's either. when sidney made sure that this would be jj's team it destroyed the chemistry. and that is why we haven't played like a team the whole season. hopefully sidney learned his lesson and won't repeat his mistakes when/if he brings in wall, favors, or brown.2/24/2008 7:19:04 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
2 words
butter
fingers 2/24/2008 10:50:13 PM |
PimpinHonda All American 4331 Posts user info edit post |
it just bothers me how he forces shots up, its like he wants to shoot EVERY touch... 2/24/2008 10:56:53 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
2/24/2008 10:57:42 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Losing one of our best players will not help us be a better team next year. Playing together will help us get better." |
See 2008 Texas minus Durant....they are a much better team.2/25/2008 2:40:12 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "degand wasn't that good before he went down. enough with that revisionist history" |
BUT, he was better and more along than what we currently have if he would have developed/improved like javi has over the course of the season than Degand might have been solid.
he gave us the best chance to win. Degand could chase on D and turn it up to run on O. He had a better basketball IQ than our 2 current PGs and had been with the team, practicing, for over a year.2/25/2008 9:38:31 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I remember Degand having a really good game against Michigan State...one of our few bright spots.
And Hickson would be retarded to go pro now. Maybe an early 2nd round pick the way he's been playing. 2/25/2008 9:51:30 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
so does everyone still think hickson is gone after this year? 2/25/2008 9:51:37 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Sidney said last week that he has drawn a lot of attention from the scouts and he (jj) would have to speak with his grandmother after the season is over 2/25/2008 9:57:32 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think it's in his best interest to go, but yeah i think he's gone. 2/25/2008 10:51:38 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know anything about this
but in my opinion, i don't think it'd be smart for him to leave so early when he still makes a ton of mistakes and plays sloppy
i guess if the NBA thinks they can train him to not make stupid mistakes, then sure 2/25/2008 11:27:57 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
i hope he is gone, team chemistry ruiner 2/25/2008 12:10:39 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
you guys are fucking retarded 2/25/2008 12:24:53 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
I hope Sidney leaves, team chemistry ruiner.
We don't need to get rid of the most talented player on the team. If he doesn't fit within the scheme that worked last year, then its up to the coach to change the scheme to make it work. Its not like he's headcase that brings the team down with drama (like TO). The guy has a tremendous upside that Sid needs to make work for our team.
And to be honest, Atsur was the team chemistry last year. He was a better coach on the court than Sid was off it. The difference when he was in and when he was out was night and day.
All the problems with this team fall squarely on Sid's head.
[Edited on February 25, 2008 at 1:00 PM. Reason : more] 2/25/2008 12:52:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
we need a new coach and all new recruits and styles of play every year or two...keep it fresh...that way at least we won't get our hopes up during that coach's first year
we'll also never win anything but who cares, our fans would treat 39-1 the same as 0-40 as long as that 1 loss was in the championship game...83 roolz!
[Edited on February 25, 2008 at 12:56 PM. Reason : .] 2/25/2008 12:55:14 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
well..... i mean..... this is a bit ridicules is it not? i mean we did just lose to UVA 2/25/2008 1:04:28 PM |
msmccord Veteran 115 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you guys are fucking retarded" |
2/25/2008 1:07:51 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
I dont understand why some of you guys are saying you want Hickson to go pro. yea, we'll be better off without one of the best recruits (and potential lottery pick) NC State, has had in years
[Edited on February 25, 2008 at 1:28 PM. Reason : fds] 2/25/2008 1:27:50 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
our fans would treat 39-1 the same as 0-40 as long as that 1 loss was in the championship game against Carolina 2/25/2008 2:05:23 PM |
NastyNos All American 603 Posts user info edit post |
Hey FatyTony, you suck. Eat a dick. 2/25/2008 2:49:34 PM |