3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
12/29/2007 2:05:59 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
is he one of those women supressers? 12/29/2007 3:33:23 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Sorry mathman, after Bush, it's entirely plausible to dislike a candidate for their lack of intelligence, several of which are shown in your reasons. 12/29/2007 9:46:25 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
gotta love his new ads in Iowa ...
"Stop picking on me Romney, lets be nice"
Backing up your own positions is probably a better strategy then just telling someone to play nice. Had they been dishonest attacks (from romney) then you might have something more to fuss about, but all he did was point out the obvious holes in huckabee's platform 12/29/2007 1:21:37 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
george w bush has some really bad hindsight imo 12/29/2007 1:30:18 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
I loved watching him try to backpedal about claiming Packistani's were the largest illegal immigrant population 12/29/2007 1:47:00 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, his lack of preparation is pretty obvious in the recent weeks mishaps ...
I think people are starting to wake up to the many ways he is lacking ... but he will still keep many of the zealots he has converted over the past month .... his victory in Iowa will depend solely on how many of them he can keep fogged over for the remaining days. 12/29/2007 1:53:12 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
iowa aint shit...new hamspire is where its at...what direction are independents going in nh? iowa has too many bible people 12/29/2007 1:54:25 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, thats a good point ... but if huck looses iowa, its over immediately for him ...(which is my prediction)
I think we will see mcain and romney come down to the wire in NH, with paul finishing stronger than in iowa... Everything is still very open there though 12/29/2007 2:02:49 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
honestly i think romney deserves to lose for putting as much of his own money into it as he has
i hope mccain wins in nh 12/29/2007 2:04:49 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
I dont agree that using your own money to fund a campaign makes you "deserving to lose" ...
I think its what you stand for that determines what you deserve or dont deserve.
With that in mind, I dont think Mcain has come out as "deserving" of anything particularly, and just saying that he is the default best choice due to everyone else's shortcomings is a pretty rediculous way to decide on a nominee, especially when in doing so, you are ignoring that persons negatives as well.
I dont agree with Mcain on Immigration and taxes, and those are huge things to me. While a good patriot, I think hes lost it in terms of ability to move the country forward.
BUT -- it doesnt really matter ... Dems win in 08, unfortunately. 12/29/2007 2:09:36 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
nah the world needs a democrat so bad right now...democrats as president in 08>> anyone running for repub pres in 08 12/29/2007 2:17:24 PM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, we need someone with a different letter behind their name to threaten to bomb Iran and alienate our allies - they'll be so punk'd! 12/29/2007 2:29:50 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha what kind of dream world do you live in? 12/29/2007 2:45:15 PM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
The one where Hillary is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination.
Or did I just miss something? 12/29/2007 3:07:23 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Hillary hasn't been the front runner for awhile. 12/29/2007 3:18:49 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
the smart people in america know that barack obama is far and beyond the best dem candidate that is in the top tier 12/29/2007 3:21:41 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
you are making me laugh now Josh. 12/29/2007 3:22:50 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
you should be hoping obama gets nominated and then he wins president...if so i owe you 50 bucks...we posted about that a long time ago 12/29/2007 3:25:20 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I don't remember that at all. I will take Obama if I have to, but Iowa just might break how I want it to. 12/29/2007 3:27:46 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i kinda want mccain to win it all honestly...i mean i really like dems and everything but damn if i dont want hillary to win...it will be more of the same shit we have now...i'd rather obama win than hillary but i figure hillary is gonna get the nod 12/29/2007 3:31:37 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Right now, there is no evidence to suggest Hillary will get the nod. 12/29/2007 3:32:26 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i think mccain versus obama, mccain wins...mccain versus hillary will be like 50/50...unless you are counting in john edwards, which would probably be almost 50/50 with mccain winning imo 12/29/2007 3:37:19 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Why do you keep talking about Hillary and McCain? 12/29/2007 3:39:25 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
because romney, huckabee, guilliani, and thompson dont have a chance 12/29/2007 3:50:37 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
you have provided some of the worst political insight I have ever seen. 12/29/2007 3:57:48 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
lol which of those i just put do you think has a chance to win? 12/29/2007 3:58:52 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
the nomination? 12/29/2007 4:11:19 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
yeah 12/29/2007 4:14:51 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, this thread is reading like and AIM conversation.
oMfG 14/F/NC HeRe!!!1 12/29/2007 4:21:49 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Romney and Huckabee has some of the best chances to win the nomination. 12/29/2007 6:24:02 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i hope u are right cause dems would whip that ass in an election 12/29/2007 6:25:37 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Nationally Hillary is about double(45%) than Obama, who is around 22%....Super Tuesday will seal it for her, and the latest polls has her ahead of both Obama and Edwards in Iowa(though barily) Forget about the college students AT HOME Obama....Edwards tried that way back when and it was predicted soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many would vote for him and it failed...they just dont vote in primaries and most are out of state and I seriously doubt they will come back to vote for Obama on their vacation.
Nutsmacker, I dont know what polls you are reading about nationally, but Hillary has a commanding lead nationally(having 45% at this stage most politicans would envy)...hell, GOP the three front runners are around 20% each nationally....if anything, this has grown lately, her lead nationally hasnt change very much for months. 12/29/2007 6:46:34 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Here is a Clue, National Polls don't mean shit. If Hillary loses Iowa, which I firmly believe she will, she'll not get the nomination. Furthermore, Obama is not relying upon college students to caucus. He is using college students as campaign workers. Plus, Edwards has gotten strong Union endorsements in a strongly unionized state. He learned the errors of '04 and is now going with the rural strategy. It takes much less people in Rural Iowa to get a precinct than it does the urban areas by a 2 to 1 margin. 12/29/2007 7:41:56 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
edwards and obama have way less experience than clinton, and if repubs go with mccain, dems GOT to put up someone that is on his level...if clinton comes in 3rd that doesnt mean she is gone, she could still come in first in nh cause no one really knows where the independants will go...i'm pretty sure clinton was the comeback kid there in 92...huckabee versus edwards, huckabee versus obama, huckabee versus clinton, go with dems all the way...same with mormon guy...same with thompson guy....guillani guy may cause split within repub core...mccain is still fairly liked....i see it as mccain hillary cause mccain is the candidate i feel could pull the biggest repub vote against a dem in 08, and hil is the best candidate to go against him(edwards hasnt really dont shit...senate once, then runs in 2004....obama been in senate once...middle name hussein doesnt help...in conclusion i dont see how it can be anything but clinton/mccain 12/29/2007 7:54:45 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
every fragment of your statement includes so many crazy assumptions ... Just stop replying for a while and maybe the rest of us can stop wasting our time reading through your garbage ... really ... we get the point ... you want McCain ... its clear ... thanks 12/30/2007 2:30:41 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
FUCKabee
With his dominating Iowa victory, I hereby officially sever all ties with the GOP.
to quote myself from back in November:
Quote : | "FUCK THAT
His fiscal record as governor is abysmal, frequently raising taxes and spending. He's also a strong social conservative, frequently using his faith to guide him in policy issues. That's the last thing we need right now.
In short, he's the worst kind of republican: Fiscally progressive, socially conservative. " |
1/3/2008 9:37:11 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Huckabee v. Hillary in 2008 means the end of the world 1/3/2008 9:44:15 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
I'd vote for Hillary over Fuckabee.
Hell, I'd vote for Kucinich over Fuckabee. Srsly. 1/3/2008 9:45:36 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'd vote for anyone over a preacher anydays 1/3/2008 9:48:09 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
ahahahahahaha, republicans getting behind a fiscal liberal and social conservative in force 1/3/2008 9:52:52 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
If he can get the fairtax in, he will have my vote. 1/3/2008 9:55:38 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
If he can fly around the world with paper mache wings, he'll get my vote.
[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 9:59 PM. Reason : gullible] 1/3/2008 9:58:38 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
If GOP's want a winning candidate they better pick someone beside Fuckabee.
I'd vote hillary and even Romney (in a primary) over Huckabee.
If Romney can win enough votes to win Govenor in a liberal state like MA. he gets positive points in my book. On the other hand i count AK has -100 points. 1/3/2008 10:05:23 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
isn't this dude MORE religious than BUSH?
and even LESS fiscally responsible?
fucking hell, how'd this happen
[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 10:08 PM. Reason : ,] 1/3/2008 10:08:00 PM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
Really, Iowa?
Really? 1/3/2008 10:10:30 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
I am less than happy with my current impression of his fiscal policy, I haven't researched his position so I am not sure if I'm just a victim of spin though,
That said, I was disappointed in his answer about why he changed from a pastor to a politician... he said something along the lines of "helping people" on the Tonight Show with Leno, I would be much happier if he had said more about reducing the size of government. Of course his support of the fair tax is notable. But, it worries me he thinks that the role of the federal government is somehow to help people like a pastor does. Maybe its a good thing to say to communicate that you care to the common man, but we really need someone to champion self-reliance first.
There is some Rush/Huckabee rift I don't quite follow entirely... I heard about half of Rush's explanation about it. Reading between the lines I'd say Rush is not a fan of Huck, but as far as I can tell he doesn't particularly care for any of the rest of them either. 1/3/2008 10:12:13 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I've always voted republican, but if it came down to Obama vs. Huckabee good chance that will change. 1/3/2008 10:29:49 PM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Really, Iowa?
Really?" |
1/3/2008 10:31:18 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
i hate this guy 1/3/2008 10:33:31 PM |