the only team i am a fan of is nc state, and clearly, we are no traditional (or non-traditional) power.

i like the very important regular season, and i like that you have to play as near to perfect as possible (this year being a bit of an anomaly). i don't want to see a team have an okay regular season and win a national championship. the atmosphere at a college football game is unrivaled in the united states b/c so much rides on every game.

i also really don't like the nfl, and really like college football. the last thing i want to see is college ball turned into a bigger nfl.

there are a few playoff scenarios that i would deem acceptable, but none that i really want.

12/4/2007 1:53:45 AM

whats the harm in taking the 4 bcs bowl winners and having them play a 2 round "final four" type tourney?

and your scenario of every regular season game mattering works a lot better when there are exactly 2 undefeated bcs teams, not 1, not 3...but this year for example, what does the regular season prove for anybody? nobody in a legit conference is undefeated...why wouldnt you want to see the bcs top 8 or whatever play a tourney? what good does your regular season argument do if every team loses games in the regular season?

and again do you think the final four in bball should just be picked by the pollsters? world series? superbowl? world cup? wimbledon finals? all based on rankings and not a tournament? i think you are in the minority cause i think most fans want a playoff

look at State in 03 during Rivers' junior year...we wouldve possibly been in the post season tourney if there was one, depending on # of teams...well who knows what couldve happened? i just dont get why someone wouldnt want a playoff...what would be worse? what traditions would be diminished? the fans want a true champ and the current system only gives that if there are exactly 2 undefeated bcs teams

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 2:05 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 2:04:19 AM

a final four playoff would be alright.

but any argument for a playoff that includes the potential for nc state, a 4th place acc team, to win a national championship is not a valid argument.

12/4/2007 2:11:38 AM

well no one has ever suggested a 119 team playoff

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 2:12 AM. Reason : ]

12/4/2007 2:12:22 AM

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"You mean the Big 12 that has 3 of the top 10 teams in the country?"

...was that not the Big Ten last year?

Certainly, they were very weak this year (other than having #1 in the country), but I see a lot of you saying the same things you did last year about the conference with increasingly inconsistent/contradicting arguments.

12/4/2007 7:43:34 AM

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".was that not the Big Ten last year?"

yeah but we're talking about the big 10 this year which is garbage...the big 10 was one of the top conferences LAST year

you know something the big 10 might want to do to be taken more seriously nationally? i dunno, how about add a 12th team and a championship game

12/4/2007 9:41:22 AM

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"[quote].or maybe we should get some pollsters to select which two teams play in the superbowl or world series...or maybe just pick the final 4 of the ncaa bball tourney before it starts"

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"the only people i know who are against a playoff tend to be fans of traditional powerhouses, ie ohio state, michigan, oklahoma, southern cal, alabama, etc...they know that they already have love from the writers and coaches and will have a good preseason ranking consistently, which is a huge inherent advantage in the shitty playoff-less current system if state was regularly in the preseason top 10 i could see myself being against a playoff too...but for fans of the other 100 teams in the country...a playoff is obviously the best thing"

this pretty much summerizes my posts. thanks TreeTwista10 . we may not agree on how teh country should be run
but at least we agree on the important stuff i.e sports and gun rights

the only reason to be against a college football playoff would be because it wouldn't give people's butt buddy favorite teams like USC, tOSU, Kansas, LSU, West Virginia a freebie into the major bowl games or national championship game year after year. I mean I'd hate for a Cinderella team to turn the fire on and make a run for the title in the post season. Jim Tressel may cry if going 11-1 with a cupcake schedule doesn't earn him a straight shot at the Championship.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 10:15 AM. Reason : aa]

12/4/2007 10:14:29 AM

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"I mean I'd hate for a Cinderella team to turn the fire on and make a run for the title in the post season."

i would too, it'd ruin the regular season. keep saying "the only reason people don't want a playoff is b/c they love usc etc etc", but the only team i care about is nc state, and i don't want a playoff.

i know at least mark may agrees w/ me!

12/4/2007 10:29:29 AM

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"you know something the big 10 might want to do to be taken more seriously nationally? i dunno, how about add a 12th team and a championship game win more of their bowl games and stop beating up teams from the MAC."

2006 Big Ten Bowl Record 2-5

Capital One Bowl - Wisconsin 17 Arkansas 14
Outback Bowl - Penn State 20 Tennessee 10
Alamo Bowl - Texas 26 Iowa 24
Champs Sports Bowl - Maryland 24 Purdue 7
Insight Bowl - Texas Tech 44 Minnesota 41
Rose Bowl - Southern California 32 Michigan 18 (and they wanted a rematch for the national championship , I'm a Michigan fan and knew that that was stupid.)
BCS National Championship - Florida 41 Ohio State 14

The sad thing is that their two strongest teams last year got blown out.

12/4/2007 10:32:39 AM

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"it'd ruin the regular season"

yeah i guess you're right...i mean march madness ruins the regular college basketball season...the nfl playoffs ruin the nfl season...mlb playoffs ruin the mlb season...right?

how does simply giving more than TWO TEAMS the opportunity to play for a national title "ruin the regular season"? the way it is now, if you arent PRESEASON top 25 in football, you have a ZERO PERCENT CHANCE of playing for a national title....only thing thats ruined in D1-A football is the postseason...D1-AA, D2 and D3 have a playoff...are their seasons already ruined too?

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 10:36 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 10:34:17 AM

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"...was that not the Big Ten last year? Certainly, they were very weak this year (other than having #1 in the country), but I see a lot of you saying the same things you did last year about the conference with increasingly inconsistent/contradicting arguments."

Yes, which was apparently undeserved based on how they were throttled in bowl games.

Sometimes the rest of the Big Ten props up OSU and Michigan, and makes them look dominant by lack of parity.

12/4/2007 10:42:40 AM

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"how does simply giving more than TWO TEAMS the opportunity to play for a national title "ruin the regular season"? the way it is now, if you arent PRESEASON top 25 in football, you have a ZERO PERCENT CHANCE of playing for a national title"

Missouri didnt break into the top 25 polls until week 4, but had a chance to play for the national championship

Kansas didnt get in until week 7, but they had a chance to play for the national championship

Hawaii was preseason #23 and never lost

South Florida wasnt in the preseason top 25 polls and didnt get in until week 4. They climbed to #2 by week 8 before losing.

all examples of "cinderella teams" with a greater than ZERO PERCENT CHANCE of playing in the national championship


[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 10:54 AM. Reason : asdf]

12/4/2007 10:51:46 AM

well Missouri and Kansas actually did have a chance, I stand mistaken

although if teams like LSU and Ohio State had run the table, they would NOT have had a chance...ie USC and Oklahoma kept winning...Auburn got fucked a couple years back...they ran the table in the SEC and didnt even get a chance to play for the national title, because the PRESEASON polls had them at 14th or whatever...yeah the PRESEASON polls...the polls that people put out before they've seen teams play ONE SINGLE DOWN

and as far as Hawaii...I don't think they're one of the 10 best teams in the country...but the fact that they're undefeated...throw them in the playoff...let them play a real team...but give them a chance

its still fucking retarded to not have a playoff...every single sport that i know of except D1-A has a playoff...its backwoods and stupid as fuck, plain and simple...the majority of the country wants a playoff...but oh no Mr. Capital One wants to make sure his bowl game means something, even though it doesnt mean shit and there are too many bowl games anyway

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 10:56 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 10:54:21 AM

QUIT THE BITCHING, MY FINAL SOLUTION:


Conference winners from BCS conferences get an automatic bid: ACC, SEC, BIG 10, BIG 12, BIG EAST, PAC 10, PLUS 2 OTHER AT-LARGE BIDS DETERMINED BY COMMITTEE (THAT WAY, TCU, NOTRE DAME, ETC STILL HAVE A SHOT AT GETTING THERE). HERE YOU HAVE AN ELITE 8 SCENARIO, SINGLE ELIMINATION, NO BITCHING.

12/4/2007 10:56:27 AM

i like that...but we also know its dishonest to call it "your" solution since sportswriters have been all over it all week...probably because it makes a lot more sense than having 4 bcs bowls and 28 shitty bowls that nobody cares about unless their team is playing in them

12/4/2007 10:58:05 AM

It's not my solution. It's no one's solution. Because it lends itself to the solution.

It is so easy and so brainless that it doesn't take anyone to "come up with it" because it's "already there."

It's the way these things work in every other sport. Conference/Division/League champions, plus an outsider (at-large, wildcard) play in a tournament of some sort.

12/4/2007 11:00:09 AM

I agree that the preseason polls are ridiculous and do give teams a HUGE advantage in gaining or maintaining position simply by winning games

I also wish there was a playoff instead of the damn BCS, even if that doesnt wind up boding well for OSU, it will give all of the teams to prove how good they are.

AND, I wish the Big Ten would add a team and get a conference championship game. Either that, or have all of the other conferences get rid of theirs (even though that wont happen).

The BCS may or may not be a bunch of garbage, there is no way that we will ever agree that OSU should or shouldnt be in the national championship, but I would love nothing more than the Buckeyes to beat LSU and redeem themselves for the shitty performance last season against Florida

12/4/2007 11:00:21 AM

^ that won't be necessary in "my" solution above. THe way it is now, you are penalized for having to play an extra game because there's no tournament. Either you have a must-win championship game to get to the tournament, or you win your regular season with no tournament. No big deal.

12/4/2007 11:02:09 AM

well georgia got penalized for not playing the extra game, but I know what you are saying

I cant see the 'Elite 8' system working unless there is an additional 25 other bowl games in the same format as the current system - all that corporate sponsorship and money going to colleges for playing in bowl games is way too important to the universities and sponsors

12/4/2007 11:05:02 AM

i just still dont understand people who DONT want a playoff...i mean i've heard all the "ruin the regular season" arguments but this season, for example, that argument is null because there aren't 2 clear cut, head and shoulders above the rest teams....when you had Southern Cal and Texas, they were the only two undefeated teams, at least in BCS conferences...the BCS worked that year...the two best teams played for the title...this year there arent two clear cut top teams...every team worth a damn has at least one loss...scenarios like this need a playoff...Southern Cal v. Texas scenarios are rarer

12/4/2007 11:05:27 AM

^^ Still have the bowls. No problem!

On the Elite 8 round, have the 4 major bowls played in their location leading up to the College Super Bowl (which will be renamed Morgan Stanely D1-A Collegiate Super Bowl). That way the corporate sponsorships of the major bowls still get major audiences.

Then have all the other bowls and selection committees for the rest.

If anything we'd be ADDING MORE BOWLS with this option.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 11:09 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 11:08:29 AM

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"the BCS worked that year"

Thats actually not true. In the 3 years that there have been only two undefeated teams, the BCS doesn't have to to work...anyone could pick the the two best teams. The BCS doesn't have to do any calculations to determine that.

The BCS "works, or doesn't work, in years like this when numerous teams can make an argument to play in the title game. Thats what it was designed for, to differentiate between teams with very similar resumes. In the case of Tennessee/FSU, Miami/Ohio State, and Texas/USC, the BCS system was basically only used to determine the teams eligible for the the non-title bowls...the top two teams were obvious to everyone.

12/4/2007 11:11:23 AM

I think the first step is requiring the BCS bowls to take the top 10 teams in the country, regardless of conference affiliation and not being able to pick and choose based on matchups. The Rose Bowl chose Illinois to preserve tradition and The Orange Bowl chose Kansas because they'd travel well, but Missouri and Arizona State were higher ranked and probably would have put up a better game against USC and VT, respectively.

12/4/2007 11:13:58 AM

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"In the 3 years that there have been only two undefeated teams, the BCS doesn't have to to work"

yeah true but i guess my point was that, those particular years, the BCS "works" simply because 2 teams separate themselves from the rest...a season like this year needs a playoff more than those years

12/4/2007 11:19:52 AM

EVERY season needs a playoff

12/4/2007 11:22:35 AM

My latest proposal is a ten team playoff... 10 is such a visible number that it would be easy to track who was in and out of the playoff race as the year progressed.

6 BCS conference winners and 4 at large

6 BCS winners have a bye...4 at large face off, 7 vs 10 and 8 vs 9

Then the you have 1 vs 8/9, 2 vs 7/10, 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5

Then the 1 vs 8/9 winner vs 5/5 winner, and the 2 vs 7/10 winner vs the 3/6 winner

That way you reward all the conference champs with a week off

Also you reward the top 2 teams further by letting them play vs a team that didn't get a bye

12/4/2007 11:28:23 AM

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"it would too, it'd ruin the regular season."

I guess when Boston snuck into the post season in 2004 as a wild card; then decapitated the Angels; made a historical comeback from 0-3 to win the pennant against the yankees; and finally swept the Cardinals in the World Series they RUINED the season. Steinbrenner spend a lot of money vacuuming up the best players and having good paper numbers during the regular season. Only to be denied a shot at the being the MLB championship because of the "unfair" tournament style post season boohoo

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:15 PM. Reason : a]

12/4/2007 1:15:31 PM

2 years ago when the Steelers made the playoffs as a wildcard team and proceeded to win road games versus the top 3 teams in the AFC, it ruined the NFL's regular season

12/4/2007 1:18:07 PM

what the fuck are we talking about? mlb?

you can't take a professional baseball league that plays 162 games and use it as evidence against college football, which plays 12.

^ you can't compare the nfl to the ncaa like that.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:21 PM. Reason : if you want to talk about college football then let's talk about college football. not the nfl.]

12/4/2007 1:18:59 PM

and just why cant i compare the nfl to college football like that? 12 games versus 16 games isnt the 12-162 difference of MLB

if the Patriots and Cowboys dont play in the Superbowl, its because of a playoff....because if the NFL was college ball, the Patriots and Cowboys would be BCS #1 and #2 and would play for the title...but college football's postseason format sucks

i think what everyone is getting at is that in any sport, a playoff is clearly the best option for determining a "true" champion...then there are the minority of people who don't want a playoff...us majority folks are still trying to figure out why people would be opposed to a playoff if they didnt either have a financial interest, or fan of a powerhouse who gets preseason props



[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:23 PM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 1:21:24 PM

b/c the nfl is a league that is built for parity, and has a ton of it.

12/4/2007 1:22:48 PM

and college football is built to have the worst postseason of any sport ever

12/4/2007 1:23:38 PM

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"you can't compare the nfl to the ncaa like that."

why's that b.c the media giants need the BCS to help maximize profits and NCAA IA Football is different from every other fucking sport in the world.

What other league/sport/ etc chooses its champion by a combination of a Fucking Computer program and "important" people casting a vote. This isn't the cock-sucking presidential elections; this is sports. Victories should be won on the field not but a bunch of old guys wearing ties.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:27 PM. Reason : a]

12/4/2007 1:26:08 PM

you say it like i'm some guy who gets paid by the bcs.

keep telling me that my own opinion is wrong though, i think you've about convinced me.

12/4/2007 1:26:50 PM

well according to you, we cant even compare a 12 game college football season to a 16 game pro football season

so yeah, i'll keep telling you your opinion is wrong

at least until you can give one single reason why you personally think a playoff would be bad for college football

i dont think anybody in this thread understood your "it would ruin the regular season" argument, and i dont recall you defending that position

if i may speak on behalf of the majority of the thread, i think we believe that in ANY sport on ANY level, there should be a playoff...after all, it works well in EVERY SINGLE SPORT, including D1-AA, D2 and D3 COLLEGE FOOTBALL..hence we want it in D1-A...you on the other hand are opposed to a playoff

we've given reasons and examples to why we want a playoff...i dont think you've given any reasons for no playoff except something about ruining the regular season, which i thought our red sox and steelers anecdotes kind of shot down

we can agree to disagree, and might end up at that eventually...i just want to get inside your head and see where you're coming from to not want a playoff

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:34 PM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 1:29:39 PM

I'll probably watch some of the other bowls; but I refuse to buy into the BCS national championship game. LSU and tOSU do not deserve the title by haphazardly falling into the right bowl game.

Quote :

"Allstate BCS National Championship."

This is the fucking problem with I-A BCS college football. I can't wait maybe the NFL will call the NFC champ v AFC champ game the Footlocker NFL Superbowl this year.



[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 1:34 PM. Reason : aa]

12/4/2007 1:32:24 PM

http://withleather.com/post.phtml?pk=4492

new carl hating on the BCS video

12/4/2007 1:41:02 PM

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"The Orange Bowl chose Kansas because they'd travel well"

huh?

12/4/2007 1:56:50 PM

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"LSU and tOSU do not deserve the title by haphazardly falling into the right bowl game. "

who do you think "deserves" to play in the championship? dont give a biased answer either

12/4/2007 2:34:27 PM

I think his point was not that he or anyone could make a decision on who should play for the NC this year, and that the only way it would be "fair" is a playoff

12/4/2007 2:51:07 PM

ok, my view on it is as follows.

when you have a playoff, teams play for the playoff. once you make the playoffs, aside from home field and such, all is equal. you don't reward teams for their season. bringing up examples of pro teams barely making the playoffs and then winning the whole thing do not help your cause, b/c i say those teams were clearly not the best team throughout the season, they just had a good playoff. you're telling me on one hand that a playoff system would guarantee the best team be the national champ, and on the other giving examples of how fun playoffs can be when an unlikely team runs the table. these are condradictive of eachother.

if a team has the best season, i want that to be rewarded more than just w/ an even slate against 9 other (or however many) teams.

whether you accept it yourself or not, the regular season is a playoff. you have to win to survive (see mizzou and wvu saturday).

now this season it is obvious that the BCS needs some fixing, but the solution, IN MY OPINION, is not to make it a full blown 12 team playoff.

conference champs, perhaps. top 4 is better. +1 is even better in my mind. whatever keeps it the closest to what it is now and the farthest away from the nfl.

12/4/2007 3:03:28 PM

4,8 or 16 that is the most i could see in the playoffs.
i actually think 8 would be the best.

12/4/2007 3:08:08 PM

^^ dude, MAKING the playoffs is reward for the season.

You see some D1 basketball schools erupt into cheers on selection sunday just for making the tournament as a 13 or 14 seed.

Every NFL team plays the season not to win the super bowl, but to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS then win the super bowl.

Making the playoffs is a great reward.

12/4/2007 3:12:25 PM

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" who do you think "deserves" to play in the championship?"

I'll concede and say last year tOSU clearly dominated and "deserved" to be the team in the N.C game. their beating of the at the time #2 Michigan in Nov. highlighted this. Not that i still agree with the system but it was more clear cut in 2006. Then b.c Michigan was nearly tied with FL the decision was given for FL b.c Michigan had already lost to tOSU.

This year is different. With all the crazy upsets this year and no team really showing themselves as the THE team, only a tournament would clearly create the match ups to show who is the best.

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"they just had a good playoff. you're telling me on one hand that a playoff system would guarantee the best team be the national champ, and on the other giving examples of how fun playoffs can be when an unlikely team runs the table. these are condradictive of eachother. if a team has the best season, i want that to be rewarded more than just w/ an even slate against 9 other (or however many)"

Where the fuck do you get these ideas. No team clearly dominates NCAA IA Football like the Pats. Clearly record alone doesn't determine who plays for the National Title, otherwise Hawaii would be in the game. What it really comes down to especially this year is subjective voting and a collage of random variables determining which two teams are the "best.

If you want to be the Champ you should not be worried about a lesser team upsetting you. Unless that is if your claim for the title is all paper stats fluff and you choke when in comes to crunch time. Thus you obviously are not the best. So buddy are you arguing that we should eliminate the 65 team NCAA tournament from basketball?? Using your logic it is unfair when George Mason beat UNC in the 2nd round of the 2006 tourney.

In the 2007 tourney UNC should have just been given the title game for showing astounding homosexual spirit in their good regular season play; with the game being UNC against tOSU.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 3:27 PM. Reason : aa]

12/4/2007 3:25:30 PM

To even further the cause this past year was considered "lame" b.c tOSU seeded #1 played FL seeded #1. All to predictable. Credit is given though. Both teams were seeded #1 as a REWARD for good regular season play and both played like #1 in the tournament earning them a chance for the title game. tOSU/FL/UNC/Kansas did not go into the tourney crying that they had to play a bunch of shitty teams to get a shot at the title.

I like the idea of a miniature tournament say winners of the 6 BCS conferences and maybe 4 teams playing a kinda wild card game for slots into the the 8 team tourney.

the #1 ranked team would get the most favorable bowl game v. the lowest ranked wild card.
#2 ranked team v. the other wild card
etc.

12/4/2007 3:33:59 PM

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"you don't reward teams for their season"

in the NFL, the teams who have the very best regular seasons are rewarded with a 1st round bye...the teams in the NCAA basketball tourney that have the best regular seasons are rewarded with playing a shitty 15 or 16 seed in the first round...in pretty much all sports, you are rewarded with home field advantage for at least part of the playoffs if you have a great season...so you do reward teams for their season...and in a college football playoff, the best teams would either be rewarded with a first round bye, perhaps a home field advantage in part of the playoffs...and of course they would be rewarded with a spot in the post season tournament and therefore a chance to win a couple more games and play for the UNDISPUTED national championship

Quote :

"bringing up examples of pro teams barely making the playoffs and then winning the whole thing do not help your cause, b/c i say those teams were clearly not the best team throughout the season, they just had a good playoff."

and what does the current system do? if and when LSU mops the floor with ohio state do the Buckeyes feel proud that they had such a good regular season?

In pretty much every sport, the regular season is used to weed out the scrub teams, and give the good teams a measuring stick for their possible success...the playoffs are where the real games count...how come the NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs, NFL playoffs, March Madness, MLB playoffs, etc all get higher ratings than the regular season? Because the games ARE more important...but so are bowl games...they just have too much human error

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"if a team has the best season, i want that to be rewarded more than just w/ an even slate against 9 other (or however many) teams."

Rewarded how? If they are really that good they should have no trouble beating teams that aren't as good. Its no wonder your Southern Cal v. Oklahoma games don't happen often in the regular season...because a 1 point triple overtime loss to the #1 team in the country is still a loss and if there are at least two undefeated BCS teams, you're shit out of luck...no wonder the suckeyes schedule such a POS OOC schedule...to deal with the shitty flawed postseason system

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"whether you accept it yourself or not, the regular season is a playoff"

Hawaii hasn't lost a "playoff" game this year...yet they dont get rewarded with the opportunity to play their way into the national championship game...LSU lost 2 "playoff" games this year...Ohio State lost 1 "playoff" game this year...what kind of playoff is it if you can lose games and play for the title? Or win all your games (Hawaii this year, Auburn a couple years back, etc) and NOT play for the title? I'll tell you what kind of playoff it is...a shitty one that needs major re-working

12/4/2007 3:54:07 PM

you're right, ncaa football is the nba, and mlb, and the nfl and ncaa basketball.

12/4/2007 4:20:31 PM

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"in the NFL, the teams who have the very best regular seasons are rewarded with a 1st round bye...the teams in the NCAA basketball tourney that have the best regular seasons are rewarded with playing a shitty 15 or 16 seed in the first round...in pretty much all sports, you are rewarded with home field advantage for at least part of the playoffs"

Exactly. Even better if you work your ass off and clench that homefield advantage early; your team gets the extra
advantage of taking it "easy" the last game or two. Allowing the starters to not risk injuring themselves going all out and
even better yet allowing the coach to give the younger players some field time.

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"Rewarded how? If they are really that good they should have no trouble beating teams that aren't as good. Its no wonder your Southern Cal v. Oklahoma games don't happen often in the regular season...because a 1 point triple overtime loss to the #1 team in the country is still a loss and if there are at least two undefeated BCS teams, you're shit out of luck...no wonder the suckeyes schedule such a POS OOC schedule...to deal with the shitty flawed post season system"

Of my many reasons for hating BCS i did not even think about this. That would be awesome to
have more high power OOC match ups. If both teams are that good at worst they may drop
a seed or two from their loss against the other powerhouse team. Under the current system
these games are discouraged b.c teams like tOSU do not want to risk injuring their BCS score.
Thus less emphasis is put on playing football and scores to win a game; and more on strategically
scheduling your opponents to maximize your scores in the BCS.

tOSU: "Well we could have more intense challenging games OOC but i think we will stick with Kent St
because I would hate to break a nail and possibly hurt our BCS score."

12/4/2007 4:27:11 PM

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"you're right, ncaa football is the nba, and mlb, and the nfl and ncaa basketball."

great contribution to the thread...you're really winning people over to your side

^yep...if teams knew that they could afford to lose 1 or 2 of their 12 games and still have a chance at the playoffs, maybe they would schedule tougher OOC games...which obviously would be better for college football in general, and the precious regular season that all the purists worship

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 4:30 PM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 4:28:47 PM

Quote :

"Hawaii hasn't lost a "playoff" game this year...yet they dont get rewarded with the opportunity to play their way into the national championship game...LSU lost 2 "playoff" games this year...Ohio State lost 1 "playoff" game this year...what kind of playoff is it if you can lose games"

TreeTwista10 didn't you know the NCAA Football IA season is really a triple elimination tournament as long as your school sucks a lot of dick with the media giants and sports pundits.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 4:29 PM. Reason : a]

12/4/2007 4:28:57 PM