in our last 7 games, what more do you want us to do aside from win all 7 of them?

how efficiently to we have to play and how badly do we have to beat each of those 7 opponents before you think carolina will only beat us by 25?

you're far from objective...you want perfection...you're even more unrealistic

1/10/2008 4:00:23 PM

they want to be like everybody else. just accept a win and move on.

showtime. go to hell carolina.

1/10/2008 4:01:17 PM

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"if you're happy with a team with NCAA talent staring a NIT bid in the face"

ITS EARLY JANUARY NOSTRADOMUS

NyM, how badly did you think UNC was going to whoop us last year when you were completely wrong?

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" Ive never seen so much bitching about an 11-3 start in my entire fucking life."

amen

1/10/2008 4:02:31 PM

Sid is going to be on Dave Glenn Bull/Buzz (i'm streaming online http://www.850thebuzz.com/blog/?page_id=3370 )

Probably be in an hour

1/10/2008 4:02:57 PM

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"ITS EARLY JANUARY NOSTRADOMUS"

With our poor performance in most of our games, and our poor performance in acc play last year, its not to hard to predict that we will be struggling big time for an NCAA bid

1/10/2008 4:04:24 PM

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""if you're happy with a team with NCAA talent staring a NIT bid in the face""

wow, u know nothing about the tournament. we are in fine position to make it, just not as high of a seed as previously thought, unless we go on a tear in the conference season. 9 wins = 7-10 seed, 10 wins = 6, Any more 3-5 seed. 8 wins = bubble, less than .500 in conference we dont deserve to go anyways.

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:06 PM. Reason : its not like we have to go 11-5 in the conference to make the tourney]

1/10/2008 4:04:40 PM

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"NyM, how badly did you think UNC was going to whoop us last year when you were completely wrong?"

Pretty wrong, as I already admitted. It's cute that I'm wrong so infrequently that people actually remember the few times I am. That doesn't really have any relevance to this game though.

It's early January and we have two losses that are crippling to the NCAA committee. We have A good win against a Villanova team that we really don't know how good they are. The reality is it's probably essential we take 2 of the 4 versus Duke/UNC since they are the only + teams in the conference this year. If we can't take 1 or 2, it's an awfully tall order to go 8-4 the rest of the way and I'm not totally convinced with our OOC schedule and the strength of the ACC this year 8-8 would get us in...

Now do you have any tangible reasons you can give me as to why we should win this game Saturday other than '83/7 wins in a row/never give up?

^ lol, please...

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:07 PM. Reason : x]

1/10/2008 4:06:34 PM

Quote :

"Ive never seen so much bitching about an 11-3 start in my entire fucking life.""

when two of those loses are to NO and ECU, i think the bitching is justifiable. im fine with the michigan state loss....they're just a flat out better team then we are. but our talent is far supperior to NO and ECU.

1/10/2008 4:06:42 PM

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"With our poor performance in most of our games"

how many of our last 7 games would you say were poor performances

cause nobody gives a shit...we win the game, we move onto the next one

have fun sitting in your ram's club seats, tarheel fan

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"That doesn't really have any relevance to this game though."

neither does any other game ever so whats your point

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"do you have any tangible reasons you can give me as to why we should win this game Saturday other than '83/7 wins in a row/never give up?"

who said we should win this game? the problem i have with fans like you is you're not saying we should or shouldnt win this game...you're saying we wont win this game and that this season is already a failure

1/10/2008 4:06:46 PM

^^those loses were bad, yes, but if we lost to nova and seton hall and beat ecu and new orleans,would u feel better about where we stand?

v ill be the first to say without courtney and farnold we stand little chance to win, u think unc would win without lawson and ellington...... umm they wouldnt have won many games w/o ellington

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:10 PM. Reason : ]

1/10/2008 4:08:02 PM

have fun being disappointed when your hyped up ambitions of a hobbled nc state team gets freakin stomped saturday

1/10/2008 4:08:54 PM

who the hell is hyping them up?

apparently if i dont admit that NCSU is the worst team ever, i'm hyping them up to be the best team ever

1/10/2008 4:09:18 PM

We're going to win it all this year

There ya go

1/10/2008 4:10:11 PM

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"those loses were bad, yes, but if we lost to nova and seton hall and beat ecu and new orleans,would u feel better about where we stand?"

i dont think id feel better about where we stand, but i dont think id be as frustrated.

1/10/2008 4:11:27 PM

my thing is we have beaten good teams, we just play to the level of competition... luckily that competition is about to get a lot better.

1/10/2008 4:13:02 PM

treetwista, i bet you were one of those people that went along with gavin grant and actually thought we had a chance of only losing 4 games this season

1/10/2008 4:13:44 PM

Hey, I'll be honest. I bought into the hype. I thought we were possibly the second best team in the conference behind UNC...

Which is part of the reason I've been so frustrated by the porous play for a lot of this season..

1/10/2008 4:14:26 PM

we still could be, conference season hasn't started... sid showed last year he can turn it around quickly

ive also been frustrated, just not ready to abandon all hope yet.

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:15 PM. Reason : ]

1/10/2008 4:15:00 PM

^^^no, but i bet you like to go to UNC bars and watch UNC games and yell and loudly cheer for UNC while wearing UNC apparel

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:16 PM. Reason : ^^^]

1/10/2008 4:15:55 PM

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"my thing is we have beaten good teams, we just play to the level of competition... luckily that competition is about to get a lot better. "

i dont necessarily agree with that because of the michigan state game. we were down by ~40 during some points in that game. i guess i just dont have any confidence in the team, but ill still root for them until the bloody end.

1/10/2008 4:16:10 PM

ROLL CALL FOR THOSE GOING TO THE DEAN DOME!


kevmcd86
packguitar

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:16 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2008 4:16:20 PM

^daddytime

1/10/2008 4:17:22 PM

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"i guess i just dont have any confidence in the team, but ill still root for them until the bloody end."

thats understandable, ill give u that.... its still early though, no need for anyone on here to abandon all hope

1/10/2008 4:17:36 PM

dont you queers understand that playing teams like duke/unc, mainly unc, is like playing in the ACC tourny, the past has nothing to do with this, the regular season has nothing to do with this.

they are a different team everytime they play unc.

look what happened last year.

we beat unc. we still sucked. thats how it goes every year minus the beating unc part.

1/10/2008 4:17:41 PM

add me in to the roll call

1/10/2008 4:18:10 PM

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"ROLL CALL FOR THOSE GOING TO THE DEAN NOSE DOME!"

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:18 PM. Reason : ]

1/10/2008 4:18:36 PM

we'll have four people wearing red taking up one row, second row second deck, you should be able to spot us

1/10/2008 4:20:35 PM

I'm not frustrated by the win and loss column, it's a damn miracle that we are 11-3 with how we have played. It's how we have played effort wise that makes it hard to have any expectations for this team.

Every single game, save stretches of the nova game and most of the davidson game, and a good part of the cinci game we have had the same damn problems.

- Costner flat out loafing around the court.
- lack of effort on the boards.
- long stretches of piss poor/selfish shot selection

Luckily we play to the level our opponent for the most part, so I don't see a ton of blowouts in our future. I do see us losing close games to ACC bottom feeders throughout the year because we don't have the intensity and killer instinct to put them away.

Hopefully someone steps up as an emotional leader next year or it is going to be more of the same underachieving.

1/10/2008 4:23:02 PM

quick reminder (overall record, not including conference record since no team has played more than 1-2 conference games so far)

UNC 16-0
Miami 13-1
Duke 12-1
Clemson 12-3
Wake 11-3
NCSU 11-3
Virginia 10-3
FSU 12-4
BC 10-4
Maryland 10-6
VT 9-6
GT 7-7

we're tied for 5th out of 12 teams (i even listed wake ahead of us so people couldnt argue about that)

now i've never said we would beat UNC this weekend although i think we'll play them close and they'll pull away late...but how can you look at the current conference standings and be ready to give up on the season?

1/10/2008 4:25:57 PM

guarantee you the spread wont be less than 13 in the game saturday

1/10/2008 4:27:31 PM

someone get me some ncsu pictures to print out. like those cartoons that marko does

1/10/2008 4:28:00 PM

^^we covered last year so who cares

i win money all the time by betting on dogs to cover

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:28 PM. Reason : ^^]

1/10/2008 4:28:15 PM

we did cover last year's spread by 20 in the rbc center

that was pretty sweet

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM. Reason : 20, not 24]

1/10/2008 4:29:17 PM

ROLL CALL FOR THOSE GOING TO THE DEAN DOME!


kevmcd86
packguitar
daddytime

1/10/2008 4:33:09 PM

^^yeah you gotta like embarrassing the oddsmakers

1/10/2008 4:34:23 PM

i mean really, how queer is this

1/10/2008 4:34:23 PM

i had a ticket but to hell with chapel hill and the dean dome.

instead, party here at the house with oysters, clams, shrimp, bbq chicken, pork loin, kegs and liqour.

1/10/2008 4:35:01 PM

^^ i saw that in the mall over christmas in a window. i stood there any laughed so hard my mom had to pry me away

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2008 4:35:18 PM

As has been mentioned several times already, the State/UNC game is always a thing of its own, and you can pretty much throw away the records up to this point. By no means is it a lost cause.

What you can't throw away is how little we have to work with, though. Degand is out, Horner is out, Fells may or may not play, and Ferguson isn't 100%. That leaves us with seven healthy players. Harris, while he's given us some good effort and good minutes on defense, hasn't shown anything on the offensive side. I don't have a whole heck of a lot of confidence in either of our PG's right now. That leaves the whole game, essentially, on the shoulders of four players. Costner really turned it on in the second half last night, so maybe he's getting back in the offensive groove, but...working against us are the two big strikes that we turn the ball over a lot, and we have trouble scoring from the perimeter. Not a good combination, especially against a fast, opportunistic team like UNC. I don't see us scoring more than 75, and I see UNC getting at *least* 15 points off turnovers, probably more. Can we hold them under 75 when essentially handing them 15 or so? I'm not calling it a blowout, but the math doesn't look good at all.

1/10/2008 4:43:16 PM

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"Ferguson isn't 100%"

what? is he too hurt to miss wide open threes?

1/10/2008 4:45:08 PM

Notice I did not say anything about him being good in the first place.

1/10/2008 5:05:47 PM

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"i had a ticket but to hell with chapel hill and the dean dome."

you should go. one if we actually do win it'll be an awesome experience. you should go experience the Nose Dome so that you have some experience to call on when we get into the monthly "UNC's fans suck, the Dean Dome is not that tough to play in or loud, etc." discussion. also you'd be putting more red in the stands and representing the Pack. also you would greatly increase the heterosexual male population in there.

1/10/2008 5:08:30 PM

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"i mean really, how queer is this"

That's the motto at UNC: "Take Everything"

1/10/2008 5:13:27 PM

i was there for CC's show a few years ago

1/10/2008 5:19:02 PM

didnt we only play like 7 players last year? granted 2 were atsur and fells, but hickson didnt play

also danny green is a cock grabber

1/10/2008 5:20:06 PM

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"didnt we only play like 7 players last year? granted 2 were atsur and fells, but hickson didnt play"

atsur didn't play

1/10/2008 5:22:48 PM

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"i was there for CC's show a few years ago"

A few?? You're talking about the game where Harrison gave 'em hell and we won 86-72? Damn, that was 1998. 10 years ago now.

I feel old. I wasn't a student yet at the time, but I was a senior in HS...

1/10/2008 5:27:11 PM

Thompson is all like, "eww, I ain't touching Grant's sweaty ass."

1/10/2008 5:27:14 PM

stephenson would have had his hands in grant's shorts

1/10/2008 5:50:11 PM

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"atsur didn't play"

I wasn't able to watch the game @ UNC but he absolutely played the other two... you don't remember his slip pass for McCauley's dunk?

[Edited on January 10, 2008 at 6:07 PM. Reason : x]

1/10/2008 6:06:43 PM