see, there you go. now that makes more sense. "as long as he loves pet animals and hunts game animals".


and for the record, I am not a troll

7/10/2008 1:32:55 AM

^ Remember... I never said the ideal bf had to feel the same way I do about the issue. And I left it general, you made it into WAY more than it was intended. ANIMALS is general. If he loves animals, then CHECK. If he also hunts, CHECK. They don't have to be the same species!

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 1:49 AM. Reason : ]

7/10/2008 1:33:05 AM

i'm getting way too old for this

7/10/2008 1:37:13 AM

I forgot to offer you a cane. I apologize for my rudeness.

7/10/2008 1:38:45 AM

hardy har har


i won btw


now let's go shoot something

7/10/2008 1:39:26 AM

You did not win.

We can have a shoot out to determine the winner, if you're up for having your ass handed to you by a girl.

7/10/2008 1:40:21 AM

trap or target, your choice

7/10/2008 1:43:19 AM

trap

7/10/2008 1:48:28 AM

dammit, i knew you would say that. I suck at trap

7/10/2008 1:49:38 AM

I'm accurate with my rifle, but not my pistol yet. That's why I chose trap. Its been a while since I shot any clay pigeons, though.

7/10/2008 1:51:19 AM

pistol it is

7/10/2008 1:53:17 AM

Scared to get beat by a girl... what a shame.

7/10/2008 1:54:23 AM

depends what the wager is

7/10/2008 1:55:09 AM

bragging rights is all I have to wager.

7/10/2008 1:57:36 AM

blah, I'm going to bed then

i will sleep well at least knowing that I won this e-battle

7/10/2008 1:58:25 AM

you didn't win, but if that's what it takes to make you have a good e-night... then go for it!

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 2:01 AM. Reason : ]

7/10/2008 2:00:27 AM

needs more "what do you want in an ideal boyfriend"

NCSUWolfy is like a 95% match minus two things

texas and

7/10/2008 3:34:28 AM

- don't lie to me
- don't cheat on me
- don't beat me

that's about it


actually...i missed this thread completely somehow...maybe i just saw Evan in the title and didn't pay attention after that....

i'll post my real answer when i get to work

7/10/2008 4:18:32 AM

aha this thraed is chock full of crazy

7/10/2008 6:29:39 AM

- good looking, tall, fit
- fairly well off or has a goal/ drive in his life
- great family unity with laid back family members
- funny/ sense of humor
- smart
- into a lot of different activities aka likes adventures
- likes music and dancing and movies
- likes "letting their hair down"

7/10/2008 7:18:51 AM

Man this thread blew up!!!

7/10/2008 8:22:33 AM

ahaaha 10/10 thread title


basically:

* not a dumbass
* somewhat interesting to talk to
* capable of being my best friend the vast majority of the time
* not clingy or obsessive
* hot
* (this is weird, i know) has a name that i like - i have a major problem with some names for some reason
* spontaneous and outgoing
* someone who wouldn't think i was weird after seeing the shows on my Season Pass list on my tivo
* trustworthy (this is kind of a dealbreaker for me if they aren't)
* good in bed (if any of you say this doesn't matter to you, you're lying out your ass)
* not effeminate
* mentally stable
* skilled at cuddling

basically everything my current boyfriend is

Quote :

"maybe i just saw Evan in the title and didn't pay attention after that...."

7/10/2008 8:23:27 AM

Quote :

"ok ladies, if you have tattoos, smoke, are not physically active, and eat fast food more than 3 times a week, you get my highest recommendation to be submitted to rehab."

just a quick ? - what do tattoos have to do with a need for rehab?

7/10/2008 9:43:27 AM

ok....i'm going to try to be as honest as possible so this may be a very long list...

however, keep in mind...this is ideal...it's pretty relative in the end

PHYSICALLY
- brunette
- i'm a sucker for baby blues
- around my height, so 5'9"-6'1"
- i like the skinnier side of average but as long as he isn't really big or really muscular
- nice legs
- nice hands
- little to no facial or body hair
- short hair (shaggy on the right person)
- attractive to ME...i don't give a shit if anybody else thinks he's hot

NON-PHYSICAL
- he has to make me laugh...whether it's because he's generally silly or just has a great sense of humor and can tell good stories...i have to laugh...if he can make me laugh at myself then he's really something special
- he must have a decent job (or at least one that makes him happy) and ambition to be successful at that job...this has nothing to do with money...this is all about work ethic...i don't want a lazy ass that has no desire to succeed...i also don't want a man that is in a job that makes him miserable and hard to deal with
- he must be family oriented....i am very close to my family and i want somebody that understands how important family is
- along that same vein...i want someone that isn't ashamed of my family and where i came from...my family is not wealthy...my parents don't have the nicest things, but they have worked hard for what they have...i am proud of them for what they have accomplished and admire the hard work and effort they both put into making sure that i had everything i needed (and most of what i wanted) growing up
- as far as politics and religion go....these are very personal to me so all i ask is he respect my beliefs and my values...it would be nice if he were a conservative Christian...but it's not necessary...he just need not criticize or condemn me for being one
- he must respect that there are things i enjoy in life that he probably has no interest in...mainly cattle shows...i will not force this activity and lifestyle on him but he needs to understand what a large part of my life this has always been and not make a big deal out of my continued participation in it....i will grant him the same courtesy when it comes to activities he likes that i do not...however, if he takes an interest or is at least willing to learn then he will make me very happy
- he must understand that i am a very social being....i like to have a good time with a wide variety of people...if he allows me to do this with little grief i will always happily return home to him....even though i would rather him be right there beside me
- along that line....he must also realize that i have a shit ton of male friends and will not tolerate undeserved jealousy...if i truly care about him there is no other man alive that will turn my head so he has nothing to worry about
- conversely....i do want him to be protective of me...but there is a difference between protective and possessive
- i would like him to be somewhat physically aggressive....NOT ABUSIVE...but not afraid to go after what he wants....i have no problems making a move....but i shouldn't have to every time
- i want a real man....he doesn't have to be some macho douche bag....but he can't be a pussy and a pushover either...he should be able to put me in my place when i get out of line....not let me run all over him
- he must accept me as his equal but still know how to make me feel like a woman...i'm independent enough in the rest of my life and can hold my own...but it's nice to have someone that recognizes that i am NOT one of the guys
- cocky...i like cocky....there is nothing wrong with being confident and being a bit of an asshole on occasion as long as it's not a major character flaw
- i love a man that can drop knowledge articulately....it's pretty hot watching a guy talk his way, logically and accurately, out of a situation or cut a dumbass to bits when he knows what he's talking about
- he can't be afraid to upset me on occasion...if a man can't incite a little fiery passion in me then i don't really care enough about him anyway
- he should be able to deal with my contradictory moods or at least give me time to deal with them....i can go from outgoing and silly to very introspective and caustic pretty easily...if he gives me the space i need to work through these changes then i will very rarely bother him with the underlying issue...i'm not an advice seeker...but i do have to figure things out for myself sometimes and that requires some alone time
- i don't need someone to always be around...actually i prefer he not be....i have a tendency to take it for granted when he is always available...a little distance will make me appreciate him more
- i don't want him to be just like me...someone like me would be exhausting...i need someone that is strong where i am weak and vice versa....this will balance me out and God knows I need some balance
- he should accept my character flaws and realize that i am probably more aware of them than anyone and i'm continually working on improving them....he doesn't have to bring them to my attention and try to change them
- some of the same interests and hobbies, or at least an appreciation of some of the same things, would be great...this could be music, literature, art, interior design, sports, movies, etc.
- he should make me feel needed without being needy...a man that can do this will win me over big time
- he can't be an alcoholic but if he's happy sitting on a deck or on the porch drinking beers with me and talking about everything and nothing then i'm happy
- NO DRUGS (this is non-negotiable)
- not overly dramatic
- he can NOT be filthy....i will clean up after him but i won't tolerate a slob
- he must be able to cook...because i don't really enjoy it...i'll do it...i just don't like to (but i will do the dishes for him )
- i must be able to sit alone with him for hours without speaking or doing anything and be perfectly content and entertained...that won't happen much...but if i can do that then he's a keeper
- he's got to let me cuddle...i'm not a PDA person...but when we're alone I'm very touchy-feely....i can't be with a man that refuses to touch me
- he should care about his appearance (shave, wear clean/nice clothes, bathe on the regular)....and smell REALLY good
- he should respect me
- he can't be afraid to tell me that he cares about me sometimes....not just when he's wasted or has fucked up...i don't need constant reassurance or anything...but i do like to know that he thinks about me

ok...i guess i could go on and on forever here...so i'll just finish with this one...and it's the most important...

- he MUST be my best friend at the end of the day

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM. Reason : oh...and the first 3 things i said a few posts up still stand ]

7/10/2008 9:46:10 AM

^^ none of those really constitute needing rehab. now if you throw in drinking 6+ beers a night or doing drugs, then yeah.

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 9:46 AM. Reason : d]

7/10/2008 9:46:11 AM

i typed out all that shit now nobody will ever see it because you were a second too slow

7/10/2008 9:59:53 AM

for LivinProof78

Quote :

"ok....i'm going to try to be as honest as possible so this may be a very long list... however, keep in mind...this is ideal...it's pretty relative in the end PHYSICALLY - brunette - i'm a sucker for baby blues - around my height, so 5'9"-6'1" - i like the skinnier side of average but as long as he isn't really big or really muscular - nice legs - nice hands - little to no facial or body hair - short hair (shaggy on the right person) - attractive to ME...i don't give a shit if anybody else thinks he's hot NON-PHYSICAL - he has to make me laugh...whether it's because he's generally silly or just has a great sense of humor and can tell good stories...i have to laugh...if he can make me laugh at myself then he's really something special - he must have a decent job (or at least one that makes him happy) and ambition to be successful at that job...this has nothing to do with money...this is all about work ethic...i don't want a lazy ass that has no desire to succeed...i also don't want a man that is in a job that makes him miserable and hard to deal with - he must be family oriented....i am very close to my family and i want somebody that understands how important family is - along that same vein...i want someone that isn't ashamed of my family and where i came from...my family is not wealthy...my parents don't have the nicest things, but they have worked hard for what they have...i am proud of them for what they have accomplished and admire the hard work and effort they both put into making sure that i had everything i needed (and most of what i wanted) growing up - as far as politics and religion go....these are very personal to me so all i ask is he respect my beliefs and my values...it would be nice if he were a conservative Christian...but it's not necessary...he just need not criticize or condemn me for being one - he must respect that there are things i enjoy in life that he probably has no interest in...mainly cattle shows...i will not force this activity and lifestyle on him but he needs to understand what a large part of my life this has always been and not make a big deal out of my continued participation in it....i will grant him the same courtesy when it comes to activities he likes that i do not...however, if he takes an interest or is at least willing to learn then he will make me very happy - he must understand that i am a very social being....i like to have a good time with a wide variety of people...if he allows me to do this with little grief i will always happily return home to him....even though i would rather him be right there beside me - along that line....he must also realize that i have a shit ton of male friends and will not tolerate undeserved jealousy...if i truly care about him there is no other man alive that will turn my head so he has nothing to worry about - conversely....i do want him to be protective of me...but there is a difference between protective and possessive - i would like him to be somewhat physically aggressive....NOT ABUSIVE...but not afraid to go after what he wants....i have no problems making a move....but i shouldn't have to every time - i want a real man....he doesn't have to be some macho douche bag....but he can't be a pussy and a pushover either...he should be able to put me in my place when i get out of line....not let me run all over him - he must accept me as his equal but still know how to make me feel like a woman...i'm independent enough in the rest of my life and can hold my own...but it's nice to have someone that recognizes that i am NOT one of the guys - cocky...i like cocky....there is nothing wrong with being confident and being a bit of an asshole on occasion as long as it's not a major character flaw - i love a man that can drop knowledge articulately....it's pretty hot watching a guy talk his way, logically and accurately, out of a situation or cut a dumbass to bits when he knows what he's talking about - he can't be afraid to upset me on occasion...if a man can't incite a little fiery passion in me then i don't really care enough about him anyway - he should be able to deal with my contradictory moods or at least give me time to deal with them....i can go from outgoing and silly to very introspective and caustic pretty easily...if he gives me the space i need to work through these changes then i will very rarely bother him with the underlying issue...i'm not an advice seeker...but i do have to figure things out for myself sometimes and that requires some alone time - i don't need someone to always be around...actually i prefer he not be....i have a tendency to take it for granted when he is always available...a little distance will make me appreciate him more - i don't want him to be just like me...someone like me would be exhausting...i need someone that is strong where i am weak and vice versa....this will balance me out and God knows I need some balance - he should accept my character flaws and realize that i am probably more aware of them than anyone and i'm continually working on improving them....he doesn't have to bring them to my attention and try to change them - some of the same interests and hobbies, or at least an appreciation of some of the same things, would be great...this could be music, literature, art, interior design, sports, movies, etc. - he should make me feel needed without being needy...a man that can do this will win me over big time - he can't be an alcoholic but if he's happy sitting on a deck or on the porch drinking beers with me and talking about everything and nothing then i'm happy - NO DRUGS (this is non-negotiable) - not overly dramatic - he can NOT be filthy....i will clean up after him but i won't tolerate a slob - he must be able to cook...because i don't really enjoy it...i'll do it...i just don't like to (but i will do the dishes for him ) - i must be able to sit alone with him for hours without speaking or doing anything and be perfectly content and entertained...that won't happen much...but if i can do that then he's a keeper - he's got to let me cuddle...i'm not a PDA person...but when we're alone I'm very touchy-feely....i can't be with a man that refuses to touch me - he should care about his appearance (shave, wear clean/nice clothes, bathe on the regular)....and smell REALLY good - he should respect me - he can't be afraid to tell me that he cares about me sometimes....not just when he's wasted or has fucked up...i don't need constant reassurance or anything...but i do like to know that he thinks about me ok...i guess i could go on and on forever here...so i'll just finish with this one...and it's the most important... - he MUST be my best friend at the end of the day"

7/10/2008 10:02:51 AM

hahaha....thanks

7/10/2008 10:05:15 AM

now no one will read it because you decided to do a kissy face

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 10:06 AM. Reason : w]

7/10/2008 10:06:18 AM

What LivinProof78 said- she's got that list almost to a tee.

7/10/2008 10:09:06 AM

Wow, you're all still going with this shit?

7/10/2008 10:10:07 AM

haha...i just saw the thread for the first time this morning

i didn't read it though...i just posted in it

7/10/2008 10:15:08 AM

when i went home to clean out all my old stuff, i found a list that i wrote in high school of ~150 qualities that i wanted in a man.

7/10/2008 10:37:55 AM

haha...and how many of those does justin satisfy

7/10/2008 10:43:37 AM

Quote :

"just a quick ? - what do tattoos have to do with a need for rehab?"

7/10/2008 10:44:54 AM

ladies I haven't gotten any PMs yet. I need a date this friday hurry up

7/10/2008 10:58:18 AM

^ DNL is free, hit him up

7/10/2008 10:59:14 AM

pretty much all of them except the last one which was cheesily and foolishly something along the lines of "except for (hs ex boyfriend's name) b/c he's already perfect"

my favorite was "must like my brother, but my brother only has to semi like him"

there was a lot about sex too--so apparently i was really horny in high school

i also wrote like a thug

7/10/2008 10:59:38 AM

haha....jus10 is AWESOME!


i've never had a bf fulfill my list...maybe one or two things...but they were hardly ever the important ones

7/10/2008 11:03:46 AM

actually enjoying the art of cuddling is a HUGE plus

7/10/2008 11:25:33 AM

the most important part of cuddling is the hand holding...

it's crucial

7/10/2008 11:28:03 AM

I squeeze pretty tightly in cuddle position. I can also fall asleep that way too, but then after ~20min it gets all hot and sticky and I roll over to cool off.


to cuddle well means to get as close to the other person as you can and don't let go. Then stick it in

7/10/2008 11:32:40 AM

I'm still calling bullshit on most of these qualities, otherwise, I'd be dating all of you at the same time, provided I had a waxing.

7/10/2008 11:34:43 AM

I usually get super hot and grossed out when sleeping all cuddled up, but for some reason this past weekend I was able to stay curled up all night. It felt nice!!!

7/10/2008 11:36:15 AM

i can usually fight through being hot...

but i'll always get a random itch somewhere that drives me crazy

7/10/2008 11:37:12 AM

Hey hey, save it for your rambling thread.

7/10/2008 11:37:46 AM

the best part about spooning is rubbing your p33n up in the butt crack.

7/10/2008 12:24:15 PM

Quote :

"* good in bed (if any of you say this doesn't matter to you, you're lying out your ass)"

Can mean so many things.

I mean, do you have fantasies of DP and pegging a guy, or does good in bed mean he doesn't mind lots of kissing first and missionary only,

I'd say sexual compatibility instead of just good in bed.

Other than that (which is a big deal, something I'd have a hard time finding) just the usual stuff. No jealousy/control issues (most guys have issues, just will not admit it), easygoing, etc. Boyfriend and I both liking motorcycles is a huge plus.

7/10/2008 12:39:59 PM

Quote :

"I mean, do you have fantasies of DP and pegging a guy, or does good in bed mean he doesn't mind lots of kissing first and missionary only, I'd say sexual compatibility instead of just good in bed. "

Yeah, I'm pretty sure good in bed is pretty relative. That should be implicit in the meaning...

-----

Also, have fun being single most of your lives if you actually stick to some of the 45 characteristic list... Maybe some guy will be willing to change his life to meet your exacting standard, but there is pretty much NO ONE out there who is perfectly ideal for any other person...

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 12:45 PM. Reason : relative]

7/10/2008 12:45:18 PM

^ That's why I have a boyfriend.

As long as he does the important stuff I can deal with the beer bottles in the living room and comic book nerdiness.

"good in bed" is still a little vague, guess some people don't want to share details. If a guy has a history of creating nymphos, it's usually a good sign.

7/10/2008 12:56:49 PM