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Pretty much everything about Gambit and Deadpool was disappointing.

Deadpool was fucking amazing...for his 3 minutes of screen time. I agree it would've been badass to watch him fight a mutant, talk shit while he was fighitng like he is supposed to do, break the 4th wall, or just talk more period. The whole thing of making him Weapon XI was THE most retarded and stupidest thing they could've done with the character. Now we have to wait for Marvel proper to make a new Deadpool movie (along the lines of the Hulk and Punisher remakes...but with Ryan Reynolds).

Gambit...gambit was just gay. Didn't have the right look (not scruffy enough), was too small/short, and had no accent. The staff was just kinda gay the way they had it, it would've been better if it was more like a pimp cane rather than a hobo staff with a weird cubic zirconium top. Wasn't agile enough in his fighting and Wolverine just had his way with him, where he's supposed to be able to put up a decent fight. WTF was with him climbing with his broken staff anyway?

Aside from all that, after he was subdued, he lost ALL of his characteristic trickery and slipperyness and became a lame side kick to Wolverine. Although having him come in at the very end of the movie was kind of in line, he was just made into a huge bitch overall.

















[Edited on April 6, 2009 at 5:54 PM. Reason : ****************************]

4/6/2009 5:53:59 PM

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Interesting. I thought they'd show too little of costumed Deadpool and Gambit looked stupid from the start. Still haven't seen it, going to try a few more copies on newsgroups.

4/7/2009 12:44:09 AM

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how does ryan reynolds keep getting movie roles

4/7/2009 12:50:30 AM

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by continuing to be a decent, funny actor. and banging the shit out of scarlet johanson

4/7/2009 1:01:00 AM

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agree to disagree i guess..i dont find him funny or decent

4/7/2009 1:02:09 AM

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but you have to agree that he's banging the shit out of scar jo

4/7/2009 3:59:16 AM

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he's a good actor. not very funny though.

4/7/2009 4:11:40 AM

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i totally bromance ryan reynolds

4/7/2009 8:01:33 AM

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" Didn't have the right look (not scruffy enough), was too small/short, and had no accent."


Yea, I loved Gambit in the comics and all and just seeing him in the previews was disappointing.

4/7/2009 8:42:07 AM

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I'll admit I thought the way they had him handling/throwing the playing cards was pretty cool.

4/7/2009 10:38:16 AM

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Holy shit I thought the other X-men movies were pretty bad but this one is just fucking horrible.
What a piece of shit.
Why can't they just make a good X-men movie.
Why do they have to fuck up the story so much.
Deadpool was not cool, he is nothing like that.

4/7/2009 5:17:43 PM

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The only really bad X-men movie is The Last Stand.

not counting this one.

4/7/2009 5:58:51 PM

ThePeter
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I can't wait until the contract for the X-Men rights runs out and Marvel can make a proper movie.

4/7/2009 6:13:21 PM

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the whole movie in 17 screenshots:
http://www.imgdump.info/img-x-men-origins:-wolverine-in-17-screenshots-234729.htm

[Edited on April 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM. Reason : put in a link instead of image because it's a spoiler]

4/7/2009 6:46:09 PM

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If they do a Deadpool spinoff they'll have to start from scratch.

4/7/2009 7:56:30 PM

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So who has the rights to the X-men franchise? 20th century Fox? When is this partnership of dishing out shit going to end?

4/7/2009 8:51:06 PM

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"Weapon XI is woken up, Wolverine cant beat him because not only does he have God Mode, he has No Clip, Lazer Eyes, and a bunch of other powers that he didnt get to use before Wolverine and Sabertooth team up and they cut his head off. The headless-mouthless nigger falls down the nuclear plant wall firin his lazars which causes the plant to fall apart and asplode."


Hahaha, that's my favorite part of that picture and the most ridiculous part of the movie. God dammit...

No idea when the contract runs out, but as far as I know 20th Century Fox has the contract. They (or someone else) had the rights to Hulk, but when that tanked with the first movie they sold it back, so that's why Marvel was able to make a new one.

Unfortunately, I can't see that happening for a long time with Spiderman or X-Men

4/7/2009 11:42:14 PM

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Yeah it's probably going to be never

Marvel fucked the fans and themselves over hard with the contract. Basically it is renewable if FOX makes an X-Men movie every couple of years (which is 1/2 reasons they have multiple X-Men films in development) and expires in 2012 if no film is in production. There may be a clause in there regarding how profitable the films have to be but I'm not sure.

The kicker is that once the X-Men rights do revert back to Marvel, FOX will still hold the rights for certain individual X-Men characters because of a separate agreement they have with Marvel that gives them exclusive rights to individual Marvel characters (only those which have their own movie) for up to 10 years after the movie has been made. FOX is thus making X-Men movies based around the most popular characters (Wolverine/Magneto/any other X-Men character they decide to claim) in order to give themselves a shit ton of leverage for a new contract once/if the current one expires.

FOX has made Marvel a ton of money so their relationship will continue to be decent until the movies keep getting shittier and the money stops coming in. At least Marvel is making enough bank to pitch a good offer to FOX if they decide to try to buy the rights back, though I'm skeptical that will happen because FOX is smart enough to know that the X-Men has the potential to be lucrative for a very long time.

[Edited on April 8, 2009 at 12:07 AM. Reason : .]

4/8/2009 12:05:28 AM

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Well chances are they will keep making movies or spinoffs through 2012 so we are fucked.

I heard they might change the ending to this which may be ok if they change what they do with Deadpool.


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So how does deadpool bend his arms when the swords are sheathed? They seem like they'd force his arms to be straight. How did they cut his head off if his spine was made of metal? Remember in an X-men movie when Wolverine got shot in the head by a cop? The bullet went through his metal skull that time.

4/8/2009 1:25:13 AM

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^I think they obviously don't care about previous films, what with Cyclops and all.

4/8/2009 1:49:11 AM

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^^That was X-Men 2. I don't think it necessarily went through Wolverine's skull, but he was definitely knocked out for a while, which is stupid since





***SPOILER*** Agent Zero shoots him right in the face in this movie and Wolvering barely flinches. I guess the policeman in X-Men 2 could have had a higher caliber gun or something, but that is kind of weak ***END SPOILER***

[Edited on April 8, 2009 at 10:33 AM. Reason : ]

4/8/2009 10:32:55 AM

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In X2 I dont think it went through his skull...I think it just flattened up against it and then was pushed out of his skin as he regen-ed

As for cutting off his head (admittedly I havent seen the movie yet) there are still small gaps/joins in each vertebrae, if the cut was precise enough it could have worked its way through those.

4/8/2009 12:29:28 PM

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I don't know how Cyclops messes up other storylines. I don't remember the other X-men movies showing Cyclops origin. Maybe if they change what happens to Deadpool it will be halfway decent. I have heard that they might change the ending.

Of course Sabretooth being Wolverine's brother is also not right but I never read the Origins comics so I wouldn't know. Can someone please give me the plot summary of James Howlett?

4/9/2009 12:16:56 AM

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its pretty much what they showed, except for Sabertooths character is named Dog, and James runs off with a girl named Rose instead of Dog. He becomes a lumberjack, and later is tracked down by Dog, they fight and Rose gets killed. They never say that Dog is Sabertooth, but he very much resembles him

4/9/2009 1:48:14 AM

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"How did they cut his head off if his spine was made of metal? "


[nerd]

Well, this is a frequent point of contention with the whole Wolverine skeletal bonding process. Some people say its only the bones, while some say that the ligaments are enhanced as well. It became a big issue with the recent Hulk vs Wolverine comic that showed Hulk tearing Wolverine in half, since if he was entirely adamantium then it would be pretty much impossible to do that. I think its generally accepted that its only the bones and not the tendons/ligaments that are altered.

Its what Exiled said^^^, that they just cut between the vertebrae. I kind of thing this would be a lot less likely than having the body ripped in half, since the precision required to do it in one strike (what the did in the movie) would be ridiculous, so a sawing motion would be much more believeable. Of course, then you get into 'how well does he heal' and wonder if the healing factor could override the saws...

Of course, if you buy into the retarded things that the Deadpool comics have done, then his head will grow a whole new body (the body might grow a head too) and then be on its merry way.

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4/9/2009 12:24:12 PM

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Yea I knew it could cut between vertebrae but didn't think his thick ass claws could make that precise of a cut. When he is cutting the sink in those people's bathrooms its pretty unbelievable too. Just because metal is sharp doesn't mean its going to cut through things that easily, you still have to put some force behind it. As for Deadpools new "swords" at the end, it is just pure bullshit.

4/9/2009 3:20:09 PM

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"just because metal is sharp doesn't mean its going to cut through things that easily,"


I felt the same way about how they handled Sabertooth's claws too. When he was in the bar drawing the smiley face he was barely putting any force into it, and when he was walking up alongside Wolverine's gf's car, it looks like he was just brushing his claws against it yet the metal was all torn up.

4/9/2009 3:57:05 PM

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Yeah, I didn't understand why they had to make Deadpool into Baraka

Doing that makes him a less effective sword fighter since there's fewer moves that he could do.

[Edited on April 9, 2009 at 4:45 PM. Reason : retarded]

4/9/2009 4:44:30 PM

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How can you all be trashing this movie based on the very incomplete studio leaks? That doesn't make sense.

But, they did ruin Gambit.

4/13/2009 4:14:07 PM

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^

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14 minutes of extra footage won't save something like this, from what I'm hearing.

4/13/2009 4:18:19 PM

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^^ because it looked about 90% or more complete

4/13/2009 4:31:05 PM

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Word on the street is that they might be reshooting the ending since it leaked.

Even if that is true, it won't save it

4/13/2009 4:42:06 PM

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"But, they did ruin Gambit."


Enough to make the determination that they ruined Gambit... but not enough to make the determination that the rest movie sucks?

[Edited on April 13, 2009 at 5:35 PM. Reason : -]

4/13/2009 5:32:56 PM

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in regards to the decapitation, the cut wouldn't have to be between vertibre. u cut diamonds with sharp diamonds ... same principle here.

i actually liked the moving until that god awful ending.i was ok with them splitting emma frosts powers with silverfox and calling them sisters but the end was just awful! deadpool as weapon xi with his mouth closed and everybody's powers?!? come on everything ab the ending was fucking retarded

[Edited on April 20, 2009 at 5:21 AM. Reason : .]

4/20/2009 5:18:13 AM

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"So how does deadpool bend his arms when the swords are sheathed?"


After seeing some screen shots I made the assumption that the 'swords' were in a permanent out position. So they are like Wolverine's claws and can be retracted? I guess they are telescoping.

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"Yeah, I didn't understand why they had to make Deadpool into Baraka

Doing that makes him a less effective sword fighter since there's fewer moves that he could do."


Yeah, what were they thinking.

4/20/2009 7:42:26 AM

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i just saw this and i loved it, i was really disappointed with the x-men movies but this one gets it right
great action, characters, and story
gambit did suck but everyone else was awsome

4/26/2009 11:57:44 PM

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YOU GO TO HELL

YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE

4/27/2009 12:39:39 AM

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""How did they cut his head off if his spine was made of metal? ""


His skeleton was not metal yet. That doctor bitch specifically states that the bonding process was not done and Stryker tells her to activate him anyways.

4/27/2009 4:42:09 AM

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^^^

lol

stop trolling.

you need to stay away from Entertainment.

forever

4/27/2009 4:55:53 AM

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Just got in from seeing it. It was ok at some points, horrible at others. Nothing all that fantastic.

5/1/2009 2:20:05 AM

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Things I had a problem with (SPOilz):




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1. When it showed the father in the first scene, I thought to myself "Wow, they found a great actor to play Hugh Jackman's dad." So why do that and then it turn out Wolverine's a bastard.

2. That helicopter crash was somewhat realistic, with only a small fire and some nice wreckage. Then, BOOOOOOM. They just had to throw in a ridiculous explosion.

3. Xavier looked like Jar Jar Binks CGI. They didn't need to computer-enhance his face. Having him walk made him look young enough.

4. My dad has a '64 Harley Panhead. They are not immune to gatling gun bullets.

5. That must have been a long flight from New Orleans to New York. And it takes him that long to make the Three Mile Island connection.








End Spoilz
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- At least Halle Berry didn't show up anywhere.

[Edited on May 1, 2009 at 2:48 AM. Reason : better spoilz warning]

5/1/2009 2:46:56 AM

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Saw the midnight showing at Mission Valley. I enjoyed the movie, it was entertaining. Although at some points the CGI was absolutely horrific, the claws looked like they were straight out of MS Paint or some shit. I don't profess to be anything close to a die-hard fan, but I like the X-Men, grew up with the cartoon, & this was a good movie, not great, but good.

5/1/2009 2:48:04 AM

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The claws reminded me of the integrated cartoons with the live action footage in Who Framed Roger Rabbit

5/1/2009 2:52:10 AM

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So is the ending different between the two? I never watched the one that leaked

5/1/2009 3:17:50 AM

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Was that really Ryan Reynolds' body as Deadpool? It still looked like his face but I didn't know he was so ripped.

5/1/2009 3:40:53 AM

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Obviously its him. Actors do lift for roles, its not like they have anything else to do. He was pretty ripped in Blade Trinity too though.


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So is the ending the same Deadpool is Weapon X1, gets his head cut off, Wolverines gets shot in head by Stryker and forgets everything? Also what did you see after credits?

5/1/2009 3:43:44 AM

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"http://www.imgdump.info/img-x-men-origins:-wolverine-in-17-screenshots-234729.htm"



ahahaah

5/1/2009 3:51:28 AM

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^^
***Spoiler***


I saw the blade retract and then the eyes opened on the unattached head and Deadpool goes "shh"

(I was at the 12:01 at Crossroads, theater 11)


***End Spoiler***

5/1/2009 4:02:43 AM

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Just left the movie.

Wow.... just... wow. I know this adds nothing to the discussion but this movie was a FLAMING SHIT-PILE.

I am personally offended by the job they did making this movie. This thing was an affront to the whole x-men series of movies

Horrible acting by most, shallow characters, shitty poorly implemented plot vehicles, never felt at all invested in the outcome.

/rant

I feel a little bit better now.

5/2/2009 12:33:08 AM

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^read usa todays review...sounds like yall watched the same movie

5/2/2009 12:37:53 AM

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