Any violation occuring is going to be pinned to the head coach JB, you used to be objective, but this is ridiculous. Did Bobby Bowden pass those test answers along to his players, no, did Pete Carrol buy Reggie Bush a house, no. Any and everything that happens is pinned directly to the head coach. Kiffin's comments about Pahokee in general weren't too kind. The fact that the principal is a Gator is even more reason to be on your best behavior and makes him look worse IMO. I still wonder about his motives with regards to Florida. You know Florida is going to win by 3+ TD's, no clue as to how this can benefit him. Everyone knows who UT is, I didn't know they needed recruiting help.

5/20/2009 1:29:10 PM

didnt know they needed recruiting help???

everything has been downhill since the 4-5 run of great recruiting classes after winning the national championship in 98. Up until this incoming top ten recruiting class, we have been WAY behind everyone else in the SEC.

This is ridiculous, and Tennessee as an organization would not keep calling themselves on these violations if they thought it was a big deal.

OH NO! A new recruit made headlines and was referred to all over the internet!!! What is this going to make other recruits think?!?!?!

5/20/2009 1:40:25 PM

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"In his first two months on the job, Kiffin fired shots or swiped recruits from the Gators, as well as SEC foes Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and LSU. Kiffin contends the verbal jabs were part of an overall plan to garner the national attention needed to land a highly regarded recruiting class in a short time. "We need national coverage because we don't produce enough players for our roster in-state," says Kiffin, who assembled a powerhouse group of assistants, including several top recruiters poached from SEC rivals, as well as his father, Monte, a longtime NFL defensive coordinator. The result: Two major recruiting services ranked the class in the top 10 nationally; both had UT 35th last year."

sorry for the double post.

5/20/2009 1:50:57 PM

Who gives a shit whether Kiffin typed the message on twitter himself or not? The poster mentioned a commitment's name, that's it. Another secondary violation that Kiffin made was when he stated that Bryce Brown was a "great player" and that great players like Pryor (ohio state) will take longer to commit. Oh Noes! The other secondary violation was the use of a smoke machine and a simulated press conference during a mass recruiting weekend. These violations amount up to exactly NOTHING.

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 3:52 PM. Reason : ']

5/20/2009 3:50:40 PM

5 ncaa violations since december 1st

LOL

Quote :

"You know Florida is going to win by 3+ TD's"

probably more like 7+ touchdowns

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 4:32 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2009 4:28:31 PM

count how times your team has been on tv, or in the national media for ANY REASON since december 1st.

then compare your recruiting success since then.

then compare your recruiting class next year after more and more of the same.

5/20/2009 4:34:08 PM

Quote :

"Any violation occuring is going to be pinned to the head coach JB, you used to be objective, but this is ridiculous. Did Bobby Bowden pass those test answers along to his players, no, did Pete Carrol buy Reggie Bush a house, no."

I was just pointing out that his post was wrong, Kiffin didnt do it. Is he responsible for his staff? of course, but he didnt physically do it. And as others have said, its a crap violation, shit goes on all the time but Kiffin just gets called on it more because of what hes done and said, which is what he has wanted all along.

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 5:14 PM. Reason : d]

5/20/2009 5:12:53 PM

^^el oh el

WE SHOULD COMMIT A VAST AMOUNT OF RECRUITING VIOLATIONS BECAUSE IT'S EXPOSURE!!!

or maybe the program will be under constant scrutiny by the NCAA until Kiffin leaves because the guy can't be trusted to do anything right as shown by the 5 violations in 5 months

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 5:14 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2009 5:14:22 PM

Quote :

"count how times your team has been on tv, or in the national media for ANY REASON since december 1st."

we were on TV since december 1st for the papa johns bowl game

what bowl game did yall play in last season, i cant remember

and i cant really compare recruiting success since then, since nobody that either team has recruited since december 1st has played a single down of college football

5/20/2009 5:15:01 PM

^^ no, not that... but what he said has gotten people's attention, so then, once he does anything, including the minor violations (that go on all over the place), he gets attention. And the program (and all other programs in the SEC outside of Vandy) are already under constant scrutiny... and they have self reported their violations

^ well no shit, but you would rather take your chances with a highly ranked class than a lower class



[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 5:20 PM. Reason : d]

5/20/2009 5:18:13 PM

i'm sure your recruiting class was ranked much higher than ours going into last year too

how'd that work out for you?

5/20/2009 5:20:22 PM

actually, it might not have been...

but that still doesnt mean anything in regards to, on average, one would rather have a highly ranked recruiting class and see what happens on the field than a bad class and see what happens

5/20/2009 5:24:40 PM

i'm just not too big a fan of coming off a losing season and bragging about recruiting

i'm sure they have great players coming in but until they do something in a game, i dont care

5/20/2009 5:38:41 PM

Well, this staff has to brag about recruiting success because they are a new staff and the team hasn't played a game under the new system. For right now, recruiting and press exposure is all they can talk about for this team. And 7 touchdowns? I'll take that bet. What do you want to put on it?

5/20/2009 6:01:04 PM

allow me to counter offer:

i bet Florida hangs more than 50 points on Tennessee and wins by at least 4 TDs

5/20/2009 6:02:51 PM

if I wasnt on here no one would have even noticed the big bad violation... troll away

5/20/2009 6:20:38 PM

You are right about that. The only reason UT is even remotely relevant to me is because of this thread. Other than that, news about them would go in one ear and out the other. It is not just UT I do not like. I look for faults with any school (except probably Barton and Davidson) that are advocated for on this site and not named NC State.

5/21/2009 9:52:46 AM

Quote :

"5 ncaa violations since december 1st LOL"

Yeah, it sucks. But I don't think you understand how frequently secondary violations occur. I read the other day that the University of Oklahoma has had at least 30 secondary violations every year since the 2003-2004 season (including 46 in 2005-2006).

I'm not saying it's right. I just think it happens all the time and it's being reported because of how brash Kiffin is. And because it's through Twitter, it's one of the first known recruiting violations in that circumstance, which I think makes it a story as well.

In all reality, this violation isn't a big deal. A personal assistant posted on Kiffin's Twitter that a player committed. I realize you can't do that. But in all the things that occur in college football recruiting, this is nothing.

5/21/2009 10:14:04 AM

Quote :

"Quarterbacks were the focus for Rivals.com recruiting analysts this week as some of the nation's best were in action in different parts of the country. While it's hard to get a read on where many of the uncommitted quarterbacks are headed, we've been digging around trying to find out. BYU is the team to beat for Sammamish (Wash.) Skyline's Jake Heaps. While Heaps is interested in Tennessee, LSU, California and Washington, sources say his Mormon faith will lead him to BYU. Heaps wants to make his decision in June, and if it isn't BYU, it would be a stunner to a lot of people. Some sources say Tennessee is No. 2 for Heaps, and the Vols have a good shot at landing Lakewood (Calif.) High's Jesse Scroggins. But there is competition from LSU and Washington. Despite numerous West Coast offers, Scroggins has family ties in Tennessee, as his mother's side of the family lives in Nashville. But he was excited about his recent offer from LSU, while Washington also has offered teammates Kevin Anderson, Justin Utupo and Dion Bailey. Virginia was one of a few schools that felt it was in good shape for Cincinnati Moeller's Andrew Hendrix, but the recent offer from Tennessee has everyone wondering if the Vols have taken the lead. Hendrix hopes to narrow his list soon. New Orleans Edna Karr's Munchie Legaux recently received an offer from Baylor, and the Bears could be the team to beat. He will make a decision this summer. He's also high on Tennessee, West Virginia and a few others. Miami Booker T. Washington wide receiver Ted Meline was all set to commit to Georgia this Friday, but sources say the Bulldogs are slow-playing Meline, who is a Rivals100 member. Transcripts seem to be the public reason why things have been delayed, and Meline now won't decide until either later this summer or after his senior season. And while it is true that some schools are waiting on his 10th grade transcripts from Davie (Fla.) Westlake Prep, sources say Georgia and others also want to see a healthy senior season from Meline. Meline played in two full games last season for Westlake Prep because of a serious high ankle sprain and only recently has returned to form. Tennessee and Oregon are schools that seemingly would take a commitment from Meline right now (Oklahoma State also could be on this list), but it sounds as if he'll wait until December or January to make his decision. If he shows he's fully recovered and is still high on Georgia by that time, he still could end up with the Bulldogs. Hyattsville (Md.) DeMatha offensive lineman Arie Kouandjio has more than 20 offers, and Florida seems close to adding to the total. If the Gators offer, they will certainly be in the mix, but the teams recruiting Kouandjio the hardest are Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, California and Connecticut. Kouandjio wants to narrow his list to 10 or so schools by the end of the summer. No one is really sure why West Monroe (La.) High defensive end Jordan Allen is waiting to commit, as numerous sources say there's little chance of anyone other than LSU getting his signature. But he has offers from Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Michigan and others. Ohio State could be the latest big offer coming for McDonough (Ga.) Henry County wide receiver Markeith Ambles. The Buckeyes were in to see Ambles recently and said an offer should be on its way in the mail. Sources say that right now, USC and Florida are the teams to beat, with Alabama, Oklahoma, Tennessee and some others also in the mix. One team to keep an eye on is West Virginia. Chesapeake (Va.) Oscar Smith defensive tackle Evan Hailes could make his college decision by the end of June. Right now, the teams in the hunt are Tennessee, Virginia Tech, North Carolina State and LSU. Hailes will visit Virginia Tech in early June, then head to Tennessee in the middle of June. If he feels comfortable enough at one of those two schools following the visits, a commitment could follow. If not, further visits are in store. Tennessee still sounds like the ultimate destination if all goes well on his visit, but the Hokies have made a nice push. "

[Edited on May 21, 2009 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ]

5/21/2009 1:50:02 PM

Quote :

"'m not saying it's right. I just think it happens all the time and it's being reported because of how brash Kiffin is. And because it's through Twitter, it's one of the first known recruiting violations in that circumstance, which I think makes it a story as well."

ding ding ding

5/21/2009 2:25:54 PM

haha I meant to click on the hockey thread and clicked on this

the thought of jaybee on ice skates entered my head

that will give me lols for the rest of the day

5/21/2009 2:36:05 PM

I like burgers!

5/21/2009 3:07:54 PM

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"Yesterday the circus was taken to a new level. Secondary violations happen every day and some schools have self reported as many as 30 in one year. Recently, Georgia, Mississippi and Alabama are just a few SEC schools to report such violations to the NCAA. However, these instance don't make the front page and don't place their coaches on shows to answer questions about the incidents. Kiffin's interest is understandable to an extent, as I believe he relishes the spotlight. Nearly every secondary violation that Tennessee has reported since Kiffin arrived has made mainstream sports news. ESPN"s Chris Low, who covers the SEC, has written a column on every violation at UT. Kiffin has appeared on shows like College Football Live and Pardon The Interruption multiple times to answer questions about these violations. Yesterday, ESPN's College Football Live took covering this subject to another level. The opening question of the interview with Lane Kiffin was, "Coach, how would a guy like Robert Marve fit into your program?". I understand covering violations, I understand criticizing someone when they have been wrong, and Kiffin has done plenty of that. But, trying to purposely trap a coach on national television into committing a violation is unprofessional and out of line. That goes for any coach of any school. Kiffin didn't lose his composure, "Well, unfortunately now that he's a recruited student athlete again I'm not allowed to comment on that situation.", Kiffin retorted. Much to the dismay of ESPN, who has a track record of trying to make itself part of the news instead of reporting it, Kiffin didn't fall for the unnecessary attempt."

oh and Robert Marve is set to annouce between Purdue and UT on college football live at 330...

sucks that its gonna be purdue tho.

[Edited on May 21, 2009 at 3:15 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on May 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM. Reason : woops]

5/21/2009 3:09:09 PM

Purdont it is

5/21/2009 3:34:01 PM

As long as UT gets one or any combination of newton, Scroggins, Heaps, and/or Hendrix I'll be fine with it.

[Edited on May 21, 2009 at 4:01 PM. Reason : s]

5/21/2009 4:01:07 PM

3/4ths of the earth is covered by water, the rest is covered by Eric Berry



[Edited on May 22, 2009 at 1:11 AM. Reason : d]

5/22/2009 12:50:20 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4197615


so i guess this is the guy that is falling on the grenade for the latest recruiting blunder. I actually like Tennessee football but 5 violations since January is a little ridiculous; especially when you haven't coached one game yet

5/22/2009 8:12:34 AM

Quote :

"how'd that work out for you?"

Damn TreeTwista10 you need something to do in life besides troll.

We went 6-7 last year in the ACC. That is so much better than going 5-7 in the SEC let me tell you.

Quote :

"i'm just not too big a fan of coming off a losing season and bragging about recruiting"

Kinda like how people on TWW are predicting us to win the ACC after a losing season?

[Edited on May 22, 2009 at 10:54 AM. Reason : bad troll]

5/22/2009 10:53:04 AM

It's in college football's best interest for Kiffin to fail miserably at UT. Back to the recruiting mess, no one has a huge problem with his Urban bashing, kind of funny. But to sit here and defend Kiffin when he talks about how Urban was commiting violations with regards to that NewKeese guy? JB, you get on here and say that these are all minor violations that Kiffin has committed and that we are all trolls? Then how exactly would you describe Kiffin's choice to criticize Urban's recruting tactics on TV. If the media are all trolls, then Kiffin's no better, and he brought it up this issue to boot, so is he the ultra Troll? Moral of the story, I could care less if he says Urban fondles sheep, that's all fun and games. Just don't accuse him of impropriety in his profession when you do the same. And certainly don't have members of your fanbase call other whistle blowers in the media "trolls" when you're coach is the ultimate troll.

The bigger issue is the precedent he's starting. If Kiffin has success with his reckless mouth and classless character, then other coaches will pick up on it and it will perpetuate throughout the game which would be disaster to me. What's going to happen is that Florida will hang 50 on UT, and Kiffin will say that Urban has no integrity and cry because he ran up the score, you're not going to see too many two way roads with Kiffin. I'd be embarassed to have this guy as a coach, but if that's what it takes to recruit and subsequently win, then college football needs to re examine the landscape. Like I said, I don't mind the careless bickering and chest thumping he projects, but don't corss that line and say that Urban is breaking rules and violating NCAA policy, especially if you're doing it ten times over.

5/22/2009 1:55:15 PM

he's basically doing everything that Pete Carroll does, almost to a tee... but one is in LA where college football is an afterthought, and the other is in the deep south where it is a religion. Thats the only difference. Spurrier said similiar if not worse things about all the other coaches, especially Fulmer and Donnan, only difference is he is a good old boy, not an SEC outsider, with him it was "aw shucks, the Old Ball Coach is at it again!", but with Kiffin its a "brash outsider". Of course he is trolling (if you want to call it that), that's exactly what he is wanting to do. Tennessee has been HORRIBLE 2 out of the last 3 years and was no longer relative on the scale that they should be in a normal year and recruiting had gone to shit.

5/22/2009 2:14:57 PM

Quote :

"only difference is he is a good old boy, not an SEC outsider"

and the fact that Spurrier won a National Championship...winning one of those gets you a lot more leeway to talk shit, especially compared to someone who's never been a head coach in college.

5/22/2009 2:22:58 PM

that would make sense if he never talked trash BEFORE winning the National Championship... too bad he did though.

5/22/2009 2:26:27 PM

^fair enough, I'm not old enough to remember what Spurrier did and didn't say in the early 90s but he did win SEC titles in 4 of his first 6 seasons...if Kiffin wins a NC or comes close to winning that many conference titles then his shit talking will have been justified but I'm more than a little skeptical that that will happen.

[Edited on May 22, 2009 at 2:34 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2009 2:31:52 PM

Hell, if anything Spurrier might have calmed down after winning the NC

5/22/2009 2:32:59 PM

didnt Spurrier cal UT "free t-shirt university" or something along those lines?

5/22/2009 2:40:00 PM

called FSU Free Shirt University

said you cant spell Citrus Bowl without UT

called Fulmer a retard for years

5/22/2009 2:43:11 PM

free shoes university

not free shirt

stupid hick

5/22/2009 3:43:54 PM

This is cool... I don't have to "pretend" to hate UT anymore for trolling purposes.

Lane Kiffin is a more overt scummer than Jim Calhoun, even... Can't wait to see UF hang 70 on 'em... I hope Meyer doesn't even acknowledge Kiffin after the game.

5/22/2009 3:57:03 PM

All this "Hang 70 on 'em" stuff is fucking hilarious. There is no way on god's green earth that will happen. Will UT lose to Florida, almost certainly. Will the game even be close, probably not. But seriously folks, let's get a grip on reality here. I believe a realistic score would be something along the lines of UF - 34 UT - 13.

Tennessee should realistically go 8-4 or 7-5 this season. The talent level just isn't there right now to contend for the SEC. However, I fully expect to be a top 10 team in 2011.

5/22/2009 4:27:10 PM

dammit, I meant shoes, fuckers post above me distracted me... faggot ass yanni



[Edited on May 22, 2009 at 4:42 PM. Reason : exactly]

5/22/2009 4:38:29 PM

threw

5/22/2009 4:40:10 PM

Coaches starting to leave the program now

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4197615

5/26/2009 10:04:01 AM

^ you are about 1 week and 10 posts behind... we've already talked about this

5/26/2009 12:36:28 PM

A good write up on the upcoming football camps at UT in June. This has some good recruiting info.

http://tonybasilio.com/index.php?page=tony

5/30/2009 2:12:53 PM

Quote :

"The best two players in the SEC? That would be Florida quarterback Tim Tebow and Tennessee safety Eric Berry, in that order. There wasn't much debate about Tebow being No. 1. He's one of the most dominant college football players of this era. The No. 2 spot was more difficult. Berry had some stiff competition from Ole Miss quarterback Jevan Snead and Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes. And as a pure talent, it's hard to beat Alabama receiver Julio Jones. But the more I ran it past people in the SEC and the more I weighed all the variables, Berry kept coming out on top. He's the measuring stick in college football at defensive back. Thanks for all the help. It was a lot of fun, and nobody's saying my list is the right list. It was hard to leave off guys like Aaron Hernandez, Ahmad Black, Maurkice Pouncey, Jamar Chaney, Jeff Owens, Mike Johnson, Dan Williams and Rahim Alem. I mean, I could go on and on. Maybe we'll do it again after the 2009 season and see how much my list changes. No. 1: Tim Tebow, QB, Florida -- Is he the best college football player of this era? It's a legitimate question and one that may answer itself next season if Tebow leads the Gators to a third national championship during his four years in Gainesville and wins a second Heisman Trophy. Steve Spurrier, the former Florida coach and current South Carolina coach, says Tebow is as good a player on third down as he's ever seen in the college game. The 6-3, 245-pound senior runs like a fullback and is the ultimate weapon when things break down. Go back and look at how many times he took matters into his own hands in the SEC Championship Game and BCS National Championship Game last season. And for all those people who have picked apart Tebow's passing motion, all he did was throw for 30 touchdowns and only four interceptions a year ago. His will to win is off the charts. The same goes for his competitive spirit. Enjoy him Gator Nation, because there won't be another one like him. No. 2: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee -- A finalist for the Thorpe Award last season as the nation's most outstanding defensive back, Berry was named the SEC Defensive Player of the Year. He has 12 interceptions in his first two seasons and needs just 15 yards to tie the NCAA record (501 yards) for interception return yardage in a career. He changes the way teams attack the Vols' defense with his penchant for making the big play and also hits with the ferocity of a linebacker. Just ask Knowshon Moreno or Marquis Maze. The 5-11, 203-pound Berry is also an extremely intelligent player who thinks the game as well as he plays it. Few defenders in this league have made the kind of impact in their first two years as Berry. His best may be yet to come."

5/31/2009 3:11:20 AM

Apparently Crompton recieved death threats last year:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4220807

stay classy UT fans!

6/1/2009 2:54:04 PM

^There are goddamn retards in every fan base. Bill Curry recieved multiple death threats when he was the football coach at Alabama. The people that take sports this seriously need a lobotomy.

6/1/2009 3:13:52 PM

I can see SEC coaches' pitch now : " Come to _______ school where they will love you and you can get a good education, or you could go to UT where you very well might get murdered..."

6/2/2009 8:12:54 AM

IBTSuck.

6/2/2009 8:55:04 AM

i made several death threats to crompton last year, but i was just yelling at my tv

6/2/2009 10:25:50 AM