^It's not PPR so people probably all gobbled up RBs.

^^Aren't the Jets going to play 3 RBs as well? Jones, Washington, Greene?

8/27/2009 8:52:11 AM

My Current Team:

QB - D. Mcnabb
WR - W. Welker
WR - H. Ward
RB - Deo Williams
RB - R. Grant
RB - Carnell Williams
TE - K. Boss
WR/RB - P. Harvin
Bench - D. Hester
Bench - F. Jones
Bench - T. Holt
Bench - M. Muhammed
Bench - D. Heyward-Bey


Guy wants to offer me RB-Le'Ron McClain; RB-Earnest Graham, & TE-Kellen Winslow for RB-Felix Jones & TE-Kevin Boss.

What do you guys think? I am not seeing Graham having another fantasy year, but McClain may be break out year..but will it out do the possible upside for Jones? But I picked up Carnell Williams as a FA. Thoughts?


III

8/27/2009 12:20:49 PM

I don't think I'd take that trade

Here's the team I drafted last night...not sure why I'm posting but everyone else seems to be...feel free to comment:

QB Carson Palmer
RB Adrian Peterson
RB Darren McFadden
WR Greg Jennings
WR Anquan Boldin
WR Vincent Jackson
RB/WR Jericho Cotchery
TE Chris Cooley

Also a question: My friend has the 1st pick in a draft and was offered by the guy with the 10th pick to swap first round picks and take his 3rd round pick. It's a 3rd round reversal so his 3rd round pick would be the third of the round. I think it's a good deal, what do you guys think?

8/27/2009 12:30:24 PM

I wouldnt do it

I think Ray Rice is going to see more action that McLain this year, Felix Jones is a beast and I think he will have a better year than Graham or McLain

8/27/2009 12:30:57 PM

^^^ Personally I like Felix a lot more than McClain... I think Ray Rice is going to be the starter in Baltimore (committee my ass). If both starters went down I'd rather have Jones... I don't really see much upside to this trade... sounds like he wants Jones tho... maybe you can counter with something better.

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM. Reason : ]

8/27/2009 12:31:56 PM

^^ who has Rice in our league? if he's not taken, i might snatch him up

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM. Reason : ^]

8/27/2009 12:32:01 PM

I'm pretty sure he's taken, and I thought you had him....

just checked, you do have him

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM. Reason : asdf]

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM. Reason : asdf]

8/27/2009 12:34:52 PM

I have the 2nd pick in the draft and I want to take DeAngelo, assuming ADP isn't available. Any thoughts?

8/27/2009 12:38:24 PM

^^^^^ So essentially he would be trading the 1st overall pick for the 10th and 34th overall picks?
(assuming 12 team leauge with snake draft).

I mean I guess that could work out pretty well... he should mock it out and see what that would look like... it'd be like trading AP for Chris Johnson and Colston.... not the worst idea.

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 12:39 PM. Reason : ^^]

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM. Reason : ]

8/27/2009 12:39:34 PM

So I think I'd like to pick up Nate Washington... but not sure who to drop. Here is my roster... any thoughts?

QB Donovan McNabb, Phi QB
RB Clinton Portis, Was RB
RB Steven Jackson, StL RB
RB/WR Darren Sproles, SD RB
WR Roddy White, Atl WR
WR Wes Welker, NE WR P
TE Kevin Boss, NYG TE
D/ST Texans D/ST, Hou D/ST
K John Kasay, Car K
Bench LenDale White, Ten RB P
Bench Torry Holt, Jac WR
Bench LeSean McCoy, Phi RB
Bench Carson Palmer, Cin QB P
Bench Jerious Norwood, Atl RB
Bench Earl Bennett, Chi WR
Bench Correll Buckhalter, Den RB


Thanks!

8/27/2009 12:42:18 PM

be careful, Nate Washington is hurt and might miss a few games to start the regular season

8/27/2009 1:02:49 PM

I have Jason Witten as TE and I could use one more good WR.

The only person I can drop is Visanthe Shiancoe, and alot of people are predicting he'll finish as one of the top 5 TEs. I can drop him now and pick up Donnie Avery or another sleeper, or I can hold on to him and hope to cut a better trade during the season. Any suggestions?

8/27/2009 1:05:32 PM

you never need 2 TE's, especially when you have Witten.

drop him and pick up Avery, who has recovered nicely from his foot injury.

In general, a teams number one WR (Avery) is always better than a backup TE.

8/27/2009 1:39:36 PM

i dont like my team that much

wonky league, non-ppr, but enforced on the draft to have 2qb, 2te, 4rb, 4wr, 2k, 2def... when the free agent window opens, such roster enforcements go away (makes no sense, i know)

(there's a reason i play in this league.. it's $250 buy in, and full of retards and homers.. one guy tries to get all the chargers, another all the jets, another cowboys, and another eagles.. been relatively easy money the last few years.)

free agent window opens saturday, would like suggestions

QB brees
QB e.manning
RB addai
RB b.jacobs
RB j.lewis
RB r.williams
WR b.berrian
WR calvin johnson
WR donnie avery
WR torry holt
TE j. witten
TE z.miller
k rian lindell
K m.prater
D/ST pats
D/ST panthers (full of homers )

start 1qb,2rb,2wr,1te,1k,1d/st... no flex.

when i drop a d and k i'll likely try and find another wr and maybe an rb? not excited about addai, and who knows what jamaal lewis will do.

dont need z.miller, and i doubt his trade value is worth holding on to him instead of picking up another rb or something, but there are a few teams with absolute garbage at te.. who knows


[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 2:56 PM. Reason : injury prone]

8/27/2009 2:53:54 PM

Quote :

"I have the 2nd pick in the draft and I want to take DeAngelo, assuming ADP isn't available. Any thoughts?"

Don't be a homer. Burner Turner is the clear #2 pick. I think you could argue he could go first over AP.

Forte, MJD, and Turner easily over DeAngelo. Those guys don't split carries like Williams does with Stewart.

8/27/2009 4:02:15 PM

Quote :

"Quote : "I have the 2nd pick in the draft and I want to take DeAngelo, assuming ADP isn't available. Any thoughts?" Don't be a homer. Burner Turner is the clear #2 pick. I think you could argue he could go first over AP. Forte, MJD, and Turner easily over DeAngelo. Those guys don't split carries like Williams does with Stewart. "

forte >= mjd > dwill >= turner

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 4:11 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 4:12 PM. Reason : ]

8/27/2009 4:11:07 PM

No way those three are better than Turner. The Falcons might even be better this year and Turner is going to carry them.

8/27/2009 4:12:55 PM

The falcons are acutally more likely to open up the passing game this year...And have said they're not going to work turner into the ground like they did last year.

plus DeA and Turner had virtually the same stats last year...except DeA did it with 100 less carries.

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 4:16 PM. Reason : .]

8/27/2009 4:15:10 PM

Quote :

" The falcons are acutally more likely to open up the passing game this year...And have said they're not going to work turner into the ground like they did last year. plus DeA and Turner had virtually the same stats last year...except DeA did it with 100 less carries. "

this

8/27/2009 4:19:48 PM

what about in a PPR league (1pt per rec)

Turner seems like a clear number 2 in normal leagues

MJD or Forte seem like potentially better choices in PPR leagues



I have the #2 pick and am curious who I should take between the 3 (assuming AP goes first)

8/27/2009 4:31:58 PM

yes, in original PPR leagues (1pt per) MJD or Forte are great options, if not top options.

And In my opinion (15+ years of FF experience, back to when we tallied scores by newspaper clippings, no joke), I always have taken the RB, in a toss up situation, who is on the better offense, simply because they will get more cracks at scoring, then running the game out on the ground.

i like turner better than DeA, IMHO.

- The Guru

8/27/2009 5:22:42 PM

okay....

On this day in Fantasy Football History (ok, not really. Here are the important transactions that happened today in Fantasy-Land)

1) Pierre Thomas out for the remainder of the Preseason with Sprained MCL (typically not too severe of an injury - Right on the heels of the news that Pierre Thomas could have his carries limited by Mike Bell this season, coach Sean Payton announced on Thursday that the running back is likely to miss the rest of the Saints preseason with a sprained MCL, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

The team said it expects him to be fully recovered for Week 1, but he is looking more and more like someone you should not be counting on to help carry your running game in 2009.

2) Brandon Marshall straight up no-shows for practice - According to the Colorado Springs Gazette, Brandon Marshall was not present at the start of the team's practice Thursday.

No reason as to why Marshall didn't show. His displeasure with the organization is well documented, so he may simply have just decided to not show up. We wouldn't put it past him. Coach Josh McDaniels wouldn't say one way or the other if Marshall would play in Sunday's preseason game. He is arguably the biggest boom vs. complete bust of the WR class this year.

3) T.O. returns to Bills practice today, but was still slightly limited with the toe injury - Buffalobills.com reports that Terrell Owens (sprained toe) returned to practice on Thursday, but only participated in individual position drills.

T.O. didn't appear to be at full speed during drills and he has already been ruled out for Saturday's preseason game against the Steelers. He did however run a handful of routes and caught some passes from the quarterbacks.

4) Vick to make his debut tonight - ESPN.com reports that Michael Vick will play in the first quarter of tonight's game against the Jaguars.

There was no quotes from Andy Reid regarding this move, but only a "source". Regardless, Vick will play tonight and that is the story. For fantasy purposes, he holds no value except for in very deep leagues.



More could develop and be fantasy relevant with tonight's action. I'll let you know if anything pops up.

- The Guru

8/27/2009 6:38:29 PM

well that only took 2 plays for vick to be under center and mcnabb out as a wide out

8/27/2009 7:09:08 PM

League rules are modified a little. We start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 Utility (usually 2nd QB), 1 K, 1 D

passing td's 4, rushing 3, rec 6. yards are standard. we do give 0.2 pts/per carry. This is to offset the reduction in rushing td's and shift focus to everydown backs and away from goaline specialists.

10 teams:

QB: Garrard, Favre, Flacco, Bulger
RB: M.Turner, S.Jackson, R.Rice, J.Jones, D.Brown, J.Charles, R.Mendenhall
WR: Ca.Johnson, R.Moss, K.Walter, N.Burleson, M.Austin
TE: Olsen
K: Kaeding
D: Giants, Jets


What do you think? I think I've got a pretty good squad if I can offset my QB weakness.

8/27/2009 7:28:16 PM

Quote :

"The Broncos have reportedly suspended WR Brandon Marshall for conduct detrimental to the club. The length of the suspension is not known."

8/28/2009 10:59:29 AM

Any strategies for 8 man leagues ?

I don't like the concept since all the teams will be stacked, but its a work league and only 14 people work here, and half of them don't like sports, so we couldn't get it any bigger

8/28/2009 11:05:52 AM

Fuuuuuuuuuck about Pierre Thomas.

Was hopign he'd be a stud for me this year, but its looking more and more like he'll be a matchup play at best. He was a beast at the end of last year.

Anyone riding this guy?

8/28/2009 11:41:40 AM

^^^just to follow up:

According to TheDenverChannel.com, disgruntled Broncos' receiver Brandon Marshall was not at practice on Friday after taking heat for his antics at practice on Thursday. Coach Josh McDaniels refused to comment on Marshall after practice was over.

The Marshall saga has come to a head in Denver, and now that he has been suspended by the team for the rest of the preseason it seems very possible that his next NFL reception could be for a different squad. It is getting to a point where it will be nearly impossible for Marshall to suit up for the Bronc's, so watch for a trade in the coming weeks.

This could be the same, or terrible for his fantasy value if he were traded. Nothing good can come of this situation. If you draft this weekend, I would avoid him and go with a Boldin/Colston/Housh if at all possible.

8/28/2009 5:19:47 PM

i brought up skepticism over Michael Turner being ranked so high like 3 pages ago

good to see somebody finally agrees (and addresses it)

not that he's not in my top 5 overall, but i have him at like 4 or 5

[Edited on August 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM. Reason : .]

8/28/2009 7:28:41 PM

just had a draft in a 10-team PPR league

Round Pick Player Position
1. (5) DeAngelo Williams RB
2. (16) Andre Johnson WR
3. (25) Greg Jennings WR
4. (36) Aaron Rodgers QB
5. (45) Antonio Gates TE
6. (56) Marshawn Lynch RB
7. (65) LenDale White RB
8. (76) Anthony Gonzalez WR
9. (85) DeSean Jackson WR
10. (96) Felix Jones RB
11. (105) San Diego DEF
12. (116) Sammy Morris RB
13. (125) Eli Manning QB
14. (136) Mason Crosby K

I'm fairly satisfied

8/28/2009 9:22:04 PM

yeah, great draft, but it's obvious that its a weak and not-so-savvy league.

No way in hell, especially in a PPR league, that Andre makes it to pick 2.6 in the 2nd.

but hey, that's not your problem. Reap the benefits.


by the way^^, Turner is a damn beast. He's got arguably the best offensive line and overall offense of any of the top 5 RB's in fantasy land. You can make a legit argument for him being an easy choice for #2 overall.

8/28/2009 11:07:47 PM

Panthro needs to stay off Tennessee message boards

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/77030-10-most-obnoxious-fan-bases.html

8/29/2009 12:05:00 AM

Chad johnson looks good on hard knocks

8/29/2009 1:26:58 PM

Jacobs, Portis, Westbrook...

How do you rank these 3? (After keepers these are likely the 3 RBs I'll be choosing between unless a couple of other RBs slide to me)

Jacobs and Westbrook have flags from injuries and Portis has a lot of tread on those tires despite being so young. Jacobs and Westbrook have bigger upside but Portis is a pretty consistent producer.

8/30/2009 12:28:18 PM

id put westbrook on top, since he has a higher tendency to rack up receiving yds as well as rushing

8/30/2009 12:50:07 PM

My first draft of the season (12 team league) resulted in this:

QB - Donovan McNabb
WR - Anquan Boldin
WR - Terrell Owens
RB - DeAngelo Williams
RB - Clinton Portis
TE - Antonio Gates
W/R - LenDale White
K - Robbie Gould
D - Dallas

BN - Carson Palmer
BN - Devin Hester
BN - Ahmad Bradshaw
BN - Matt Hasselbeck
BN - Nate Burleson
BN - Anthony Fasano
BN - Patrick Crayton
BN - Seattle Defense

8/30/2009 1:10:29 PM

hypothetical question:

we have seen Julius Peppers line up as a receiver on offense before. let's say he actually catches a TD pass one day. do those points go to the Def/ST for Carolina? or are there no points awarded other than the Delhomme/whoever passing TD

8/30/2009 1:36:38 PM

^^ jesus christ bench size

8/30/2009 1:38:07 PM

i see a lot of Portis lovers here. you guys need to seriously consider Ladell Betts as a handcuff

8/30/2009 1:53:34 PM

^^ Yeah it's pretty huge.

^ That was my intent but sadly someone took him way too early.

8/30/2009 2:02:35 PM

dbl post

8/30/2009 6:40:01 PM

Just had a 12 team non-PPR draft...could've been better, but not bad...nice RB depth since AP and Lewis have byes on the same week

Round Pick Player Position
1. (1) Adrian Peterson RB
2. (24) Reggie Wayne WR
3. (25) Greg Jennings WR
4. (48) Donovan McNabb QB
5. (49) Tony Gonzalez TE
6. (72) Jamal Lewis RB
7. (73) Eddie Royal WR
8. (96) Felix Jones RB
9. (97) Julius Jones RB
10. (120) Ben Roethlisberger QB
11. (121) Devin Hester WR
12. (144) Jerious Norwood RB
13. (145) Earnest Graham RB
14. (168) Green Bay DEF
15. (169) John Carney K

8/30/2009 6:40:01 PM

Here is my draft I just did. I had the 2nd pick in a PPR (1 point per), Passing and rushing TDs = 6 league.

What say you tww? How bad am I going to lose

QB: Donovan McNabb
QB: Matt Schaub

RB: Maurice Jones-Drew
RB: Reggie Bush
RB: Julius Jones
RB: Leon Washington
RB: Kevin Faulk
RB: James Davis

WR: Reggie Wayne
WR: Roddy White
WR: Bernard Berrian
WR: Jerricho Cotchery
WR: Laveranues Coles
WR: Steve Smith (giants)

TE: Jason Witten

DEF: Green Bay

I should probably pick up a kicker too Who should I drop? steve smiff? kevin faulk?

[Edited on August 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM. Reason : ?]

8/30/2009 7:46:33 PM

RBs are weak... I assume you went RB, WR, WR?


Benson out there?

Buckhalter?

8/30/2009 7:48:19 PM

just drafted this team in espn league. didn't realize the draft was today so I wasn't super prepared. had the 5th pick (10 team league). all the rb's I would have really wanted to take as rb1 were gone so I went with WR's for the first 3 picks. guess i'll see how it turns out.

non-PPR, PaTD=4, 10 RuReYds = 1, etc

QB Ben Roethlisberger, Pit QB
RB Joseph Addai, Ind RB
RB Willie Parker, Pit RB
RB/WR Anquan Boldin, Ari WR
WR Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR
WR Randy Moss, NE WR
TE Jeremy Shockey, NO TE
D/ST Eagles D/ST, Phi D/ST
K Nate Kaeding, SD K

BENCH
SLOT PLAYER, TEAM POS
Bench Knowshon Moreno, Den RB Q
Bench Eddie Royal, Den WR
Bench Chris Wells, Ari RB
Bench Tim Hightower, Ari RB
Bench Rashard Mendenhall, Pit RB
Bench David Garrard, Jac QB
Bench Heath Miller, Pit TE

8/30/2009 7:56:23 PM

Haha, well I managed to get both Jacobs and Westbrook after a crazy QB/WR run.

8/30/2009 7:56:43 PM

Quote :

"RBs are weak... I assume you went RB, WR, WR? Benson out there? Buckhalter? "

yup. thats what I decided to do this time around. Went for RBs that got a decent amount of catches.

Benson is out. Buckhalter maybe.

8/30/2009 7:58:58 PM

pick up Buckhalter and drop Faulk... then, at the peak of Buckhalter's performance trade me, Knowshon will be back

8/30/2009 8:05:34 PM

aight just scooped up buckhalter

8/30/2009 8:47:09 PM

michael turner dropped to 7th in my league

i was estatic

[Edited on August 30, 2009 at 9:05 PM. Reason : Ø]

8/30/2009 9:01:13 PM