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7/29/2009 3:17:51 PM

Murdered in a tanning bed part 5

7/29/2009 3:17:57 PM

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7/29/2009 3:18:16 PM

lol

7/29/2009 3:18:30 PM

Quote :

"QUAGMIRE INTERNET GENTLEMAN"

haha

7/29/2009 3:21:30 PM

dear tanning thread,

thank you for making me lol after a kind of bad day

love,
khcadwal

7/29/2009 5:10:12 PM

Quote :

"QUAGMIRE INTERNET GENTLEMAN"

i can't hack it IRL, but i find it's easier on teh intarweb

7/29/2009 5:16:04 PM

7/30/2009 6:59:20 AM

HAHAHA

7/30/2009 8:21:54 AM

that has to be a photoshop...

my tanning bed doesn't have eyes!

7/30/2009 8:26:02 AM

hahaha... reminds me of:

7/30/2009 8:32:59 AM

Quote :

"Quote : "Also, I'd like to reply to whoever made a comment about organic food. I got news for ya, its not "better" for you." oh, ok. Thanks for setting us all straight."

My pleasure TerdFerguson

Quote :

"Organic food is no healthier, study finds Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:29pm EDT (Reuters) - Organic food has no nutritional or health benefits over ordinary food, according to a major study published Wednesday. Researchers from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine said consumers were paying higher prices for organic food because of its perceived health benefits, creating a global organic market worth an estimated $48 billion in 2007. A systematic review of 162 scientific papers published in the scientific literature over the last 50 years, however, found there was no significant difference. "A small number of differences in nutrient content were found to exist between organically and conventionally produced foodstuffs, but these are unlikely to be of any public health relevance," said Alan Dangour, one of the report's authors. "Our review indicates that there is currently no evidence to support the selection of organically over conventionally produced foods on the basis of nutritional superiority." The results of research, which was commissioned by the British government's Food Standards Agency, were published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Sales of organic food have fallen in some markets, including Britain, as recession has led consumers to cut back on purchases. The Soil Association said in April that growth in sales of organic products in Britain slowed to just 1.7 percent in 2008, well below the average annual growth rate of 26 percent over the last decade, following a plunge in demand at the end of the year."

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=221347145014&h=ojTzP&u=Zeljl&ref=nf

Now you can stop wasting your money.

7/30/2009 11:32:10 AM

well i know i can eat an organic tomato and get the same nutrients that i can get from a non-organic tomato...it's the fact that the organic tomato hasn't been treated with crazy chemicals that's appealing.

7/30/2009 11:41:31 AM

i'm pretty sure people buy organic food not b/c of the food itself but HOW the food is grown.

just saying

7/30/2009 11:43:42 AM

still doesnt make it right

7/30/2009 11:47:11 AM

^^^Understandable, but there's no scientific proof that those chemicals harm you more than the water you drink.

Now...it may be the case (not that I know for sure) that organic food is grown/raised closer to where you live. And getting your produce and meat closer to home is always a good thing. More efficient and probably fresher.

7/30/2009 11:58:56 AM

well certainly limiting the chemical intake in one area, regardless of it's presence in another form, reduces it overall which should in theory be better for your body.

and most definitely, the locally grown organic is even more appealing (though it's not always local unless you're at a farmers market, so you gotta keep your eye out for that in major supermarkets)...supporting the local farmer, reducing your carbon foot print b/c of it's proximity and eating in season fruits and vegetables.

7/30/2009 12:07:50 PM

don't get me started on carbon footprints...

7/30/2009 12:12:05 PM

lol, most of which is bullshit marketing. half the "Organic" shit you buy is just over priced shit with a more plain looking label stuck on it.

7/30/2009 12:13:05 PM

Quote :

"FEED ME SLUTS"

7/30/2009 12:36:48 PM

I've bought organic products twice. Boneless chicken breasts and brown mustard.

I bought them b/c they were on special and therefore the cheapest at the store.

7/30/2009 12:43:22 PM

much of your organic stuff is chemically indistinguishable (yes even the "chemicals") from non-organic

7/30/2009 12:56:33 PM

so organic food is nutritionally the same. Meaning that it has about the same amount of Iron, Vitamin C, etc as its conventionally grown counterpart.

But with organic you dont get all of the "extras" that you get with conventional food.

http://www.consumersunion.org/food/organicsumm.htm

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"Our analysis shows convincingly that organically grown foods have fewer and generally lower pesticide residues than conventionally grown foods. This pattern was consistent across all three independent data sets. Organic foods typically contain pesticide residues only one-third as often as conventionally grown foods do."

also

Quote :

"but there's no scientific proof that those chemicals harm you more than the water you drink."

so you would have no problem turning up a bottle of roundup?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B02E2DD1E31F935A3575AC0A9629C8B63

Quote :

"Many articles in medical journals have associated lawn weed killers and insecticides with dramatic increases in the incidence of a number of cancers and other diseases. One study found that the incidence of leukemia in children was 650 percent greater in homes where indoor and garden pesticides were used. "

and my personal favorite example: Bovine Growth Hormone in Milk

http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/rbgh2.cfm

Quote :

"Furthermore, recent research has shown conclusively that the levels of a hormone called "insulin-like growth factor-1" (IFG-1) are elevated in dairy products produced from cows treated with rBGH. Canadian and European regulators have found that the FDA completely failed to consider a study that showed how the increased IGF-1 in rBGH milk could survive digestion and make its way into the intestines and blood stream of consumers. These findings are significant because numerous studies now demonstrate that IGF-1 is an important factor in the growth of cancers of the breast, prostate and colon"

Listen, I am no expert in this area and have only recently started to research it (for my own personal interest). You actually may be right that conventional foods are perfectly fine (especially if consumers take care to remove pesticide residues, etc). I just think its a bit of a half truth that there are no advantages to organic.

7/30/2009 2:47:54 PM

Quote :

"fewer and generally lower"

which means you are still getting it, just not all in the face, just most of the face.

pest/herbicides are often way way way overused, much the same way that DDT was overused...

as for the hormonal stuff i don't think it's as bad as some folks are lead to believe, conversely i don't think the hormones should be used as much as they are as well...

7/30/2009 2:58:57 PM

page 3 is a good read

7/31/2009 8:53:51 PM

At least they're aren't blue.

7/31/2009 9:16:53 PM

FYI TKE-TEG, I just read the actual study, and there are some very important points that the Reuters article completely ignored.

(P1, Introduction p3.l5)

Quote :

"We did not address differences in contaminant contents (eg, herbicide, pesticide, or fungicide residues)"

In crops, they only compared 11 Nutrients:
Nitrogen
Vitamin C
Phenolic compounds
Magnesium
Calcium
Phosphorus
Potassium
Zinc
Total soluble solids
Copper
Titratable acidity


And in livestock, they only compared Fats and Ash.

Organic livestock is known (from multiple studies) to contain MUCH higher percentages of nutrients as protein, amino acids and trace elements that aren't found in corn-fed beef and chicken.

And organic crops main draws are the lack of pesticides and other man-made chemicals, none of which were looked for or compared in this study.

So next time, before you declare something and point to a study, might want to actually read it.

For anyone else interested in the facts and not just a blurb on Reuters:
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/rapidpdf/ajcn.2009.28041v1?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=organic&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=date&resourcetype=HWCIT

7/31/2009 9:50:25 PM

let's not forget the propaganda that was used in promoting things like DDT. don't even think that drug companies and biochemical companies aren't using even more propaganda today through other mediums.


much of these studies used to make people think that GMOs and conventionally grown foods with pesticides are no different than naturally grown organics are completely bogus and full of disinfo. they're gonna do the same with trying to get us to comply with codex alimentarius and tell people that certain vitamins and nutrients are "toxic" and show us a bullshit study telling people that nutrition has nothing to do with our health.

8/1/2009 6:08:03 AM

i'm fucking sorry. but me eating an organic apple versus a real apple is no fucking difference. see the thing is, most americans probably dont even eat an apple a day. the act of eating an apple is better than worrying about some gay ass organic hogwash. god ppl fucking WAKE UP

8/1/2009 6:09:58 AM

yeah, i'm all for freedom of choice and ultimately people have to make an informed decision for themselves and use some discernment in figuring out what's real and what's corporate lies.

i will say that the carbon footprint stuff is hogwash though, i'm sorry, but it comes from eugenics ideology. it's all about population control and has nothing to do with the environment. they want to start taxing people for having kids, they're already proposing it in australia and the plan is to do it here too. china started with this tax before it moved on to forced abortions. CO2 is very important to our ecosystem, i wouldn't be surprised if they started saying oxygen was a contributing factor too. the polar ice caps on mars and even saturns moons are melting for crying out loud, the sun is just producing more heat in this particular cycle. that's not to say that we haven't contributed to certain earth changes though, we should definitely make better decisions in conserving but the average person has only contributed a very small percent to it. just think, we could've had hydrogen cars as early as the 1920s. tesla had a lot of great inventions that would literally change the world for the better, but then they couldn't control us with oil prices and bullshit cap and trade taxes.

8/1/2009 6:49:47 AM

does anyone else here think milk is disgusting?

i can't wrap my head around why anyone decided it was a good idea in the first place.

juice from a cow nipple.
i mean everything you find in milk and dairy products you can find in other foods in MUCH higher quantities (except calcium maybe, but i'd MUCH rather have a couple cups of broccoli than one cup of milk).

just seems like there is too much CRAPPY stuff in dairy products to justify the good stuff.


(don't get me wrong....i love some cheese and cottage cheese and yogurt [hate plain milk though], just looking at it from a purely health point of view)

not trying to fight with anyone, and i could be wrong...but ya know, talking about the organic food stuff...just made me think of it.

8/1/2009 8:55:28 AM

Milk is gross. Then again, I'm lactose intolerant. But soy milk is the bomb.

8/1/2009 8:59:44 AM

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"i'm fucking sorry. but me eating an organic apple versus a real apple is no fucking difference"

I'm fucking sorry, but that's 100% wrong.
Not to mention, you compared an "organic apple" (read: the type of apple that has existed everywhere apples grow since they evolved in the first place,) to a "real apple". What the fuck? How is an apple that is either grown with man-made chemicals or artificially engineered a "real" apple? If either was "real" it'd be the one that is, you know, natural -- the one that's existed as it currently does is for its entire evolution.

...Talk about ignorance.


People like TKE-Teg and ScHpEnXeL with their, "Now you can stop wasting your money," "there's no scientific proof that those chemicals harm you more than the water you drink," and "bullshit marketing..... 'Organic' shit you buy is just over priced shit," bullshit are among the most idiotic fools ever. It appears that they completely miss the point of organic food. I mean, really, what fucking stupid losers....

[Edited on August 1, 2009 at 9:30 AM. Reason : ]

8/1/2009 9:29:02 AM

Quote :

"does anyone else here think milk is disgusting?"

i'm not a huge milk lover, but occasionally i have a HUGE craving for it and will down like 3-4 glasses.

now...i've drank raw milk...and holy cow (badumtssh!) that's some damn good milk to write home about.

8/1/2009 10:06:19 AM

Everytime I eat cereal I think about how the liquid in that bowl came out of a hairy cow teat.

8/1/2009 10:20:04 AM

WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT TANNING BEDS?

8/1/2009 2:39:25 PM

milk... deadly as arsenic

8/1/2009 2:58:53 PM

i had a nice dose of arsenic earlier, it was lovely.

8/1/2009 3:00:05 PM

Tanning isn't worth it. I'm only 23 and have already had skin cancer. It's incredibly scary to know that any of my moles/freckles can turn cancerous at any time because of prior exposure, regardless of the precautions I take now. I have to see a dermatologist every 6 months for life.

8/1/2009 3:49:27 PM

i can drink milk like its water. shits good. 2% ftw

8/1/2009 10:50:15 PM

I don't give a shit if people want to give themselves cancer, but pale girls are hotter, so let's ban these things.

8/1/2009 11:36:47 PM

Quote :

"pale girls are hotter"

haha, rrright

8/1/2009 11:50:41 PM

Quote :

"does anyone else here think milk is disgusting? i can't wrap my head around why anyone decided it was a good idea in the first place. juice from a cow nipple. i mean everything you find in milk and dairy products you can find in other foods in MUCH higher quantities (except calcium maybe, but i'd MUCH rather have a couple cups of broccoli than one cup of milk). "

Because for thousands of years, it has been one of the cheapest renewable, nutrient rich foods available to man. One of the first things man did with domesticated animals was to use them for their milk.

A person can survive on milk alone for years, unlike almost any other single source of nutrients.

8/2/2009 12:55:32 PM

ddt is a fantastic chemical, it's one of the only really good ways to control miskito vector malaria.

it was horrifically overused, and as any toxicologist will tell you everything is toxic/poisonous it all depends on the dosage.

the us needs to retract it's trade ban on countries that use ddt... by offering ddt usage support and control

8/2/2009 2:39:49 PM

Quote :

"But soy milk is the bomb"

Quote :

"It's soy JUICE, because soy doesn't have a titty"

get it right http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXS5GBuk-GQ

8/2/2009 2:52:16 PM

"It's soy JUICE, because soy doesn't have a titty."
"It's magnesia JUICE, because magnesium doesn't have a titty."

These are both wrong. The term "milk" means "an aqueous suspension of materials in water".
Dairy milk is an aqueous suspension of mammal proteins, fats and minerals in water.
Soy milk is an aqueous suspension of soy-bean proteins, fats and minerals in water.
Rice milk is an aqueous suspension of rice proteins, fats and minerals in water.
Hemp milk is an aqueous suspension of hemp-seed proteins, fats and minerals in water.
Milk of magnesia is an aqueous suspension of magnesium hydroxide in water.

Milk that comes from titties is but only one type of milk. You anti-soy-milk losers need to get a clue. Lewis Black is funny, though.

Also, "A person can survive on hemp milk alone for years, unlike almost any other single source of nutrients." is also true.

8/2/2009 3:20:29 PM

i got that almond milk son

8/2/2009 3:31:30 PM

^One man can raise, care for and milk livestock to produce that milk. Milk, especially from goats (cows are much less hardy), has kept tribal people alive for hundreds of generations.

Soy, Hemp and all other crop based "milks" that aim to replace dairy milk require enormous amounts of land, equipment, energy and specific climates to produce. Goats can live almost anywhere, off of almost anything, and still produce milk.

I'm not saying soy is bad, or alternatives to dairy milk are bad. Joie asked why anyone thought milk was a good idea in the first place. I gave her the historical reason.

Even today, goat milk is a critically important part of the diet of many 3rd world and developing countries. And if you give two shits about our environment, all the soy industry is a pretty retarded offender. Soy is a pretty crappy crop in terms of nutrients per energy required.

You are right on on the milk vs juice part though And rice milk is pretty damn good

8/2/2009 3:34:56 PM

^^^haha why so serious, just pushing your buttons

i never really thought about it, but wouldn't that definition also classify mineral sparkling water as milk? doesn't sound right. i would think milk has something to do with proteins

oh and how long can i survive on this hemp JUICE they have over here??




[Edited on August 2, 2009 at 3:41 PM. Reason : Noen too quick]

8/2/2009 3:38:39 PM

^
That appears to be tea, not milk. Not the same.
lol... Wouldn't that be kind of like comparing cow milk with udder-soaked hot water?

8/2/2009 4:17:36 PM