goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
lol - gaza turned away the aid after israel inspected it and tried to deliver it
gg on electing terrorists who will put their twisted ideals above the needs of the people 6/3/2010 9:09:29 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
6/3/2010 9:15:04 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
gg on fucking up the page with the 2nd post - adblock image FTW
how do those dates work? are they based off the calendar in the camera - like the one I've never set before and currently says 2002 when I turn it on? or is it tagged by the computer when it is uploaded?
and even if that pic is wrong - so fucking what? the video evidence of the "peaceful and innocent victims" beating the shit out of the troops trumps anything a flickr stream will show
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM. Reason : .] 6/3/2010 9:18:42 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, my camera shows some outlandish date for all of my photos... totally F's with iPhoto and pisses me off but I never took the time to fix it
This would be as if adultswim pegged the time of a crime at 12:00 because a VCR in the surveillance camera's image showed "12:00"
This could easily be confirmed if the rest of the photos on that Flickr page were examined... If they showed that they were taken before and after that photo, and on the same camera, and if the other images proved they were taken of the flotilla, then we could chalk it up to a bad camera clock
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 9:46 AM. Reason : s] 6/3/2010 9:41:04 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't make that image, just reposting. I checked some other images on their Flickr page, including the same one, but they've saved them all through Photoshop to remove the exif data. I agree that it could just be the camera, but it's a little odd that they took the time to edit all of the data out.
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 9:58 AM. Reason : .] 6/3/2010 9:57:28 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
If its edited out then how was the image you posted created? hoax. 6/3/2010 10:02:16 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hamas-blocking-entry-of-flotilla-aid-into-gaza-1.293943
Fuck Hamas 6/3/2010 10:13:51 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
^ that proves what this flotilla stunt was really all about.
I really don't understand how anyone could take Hamas' side in this.
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 10:44 AM. Reason : s] 6/3/2010 10:43:27 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, of course. Those people were planning in tight coordination with Hamas all along!!11111onenenonenoneonenonenonenen
"IT WAS A TERROR BOAT" -- idiot americans like you
Quote : | "I really don't understand how anyone could take Hamas' side in this. " |
You realize taking the side of the oppressed doesn't mean taking Hamas' side, right?
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 10:46 AM. Reason : .]6/3/2010 10:46:02 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Solinari wishes death on people ITT at the end of the previous page (but then chastises others for wishing death on the other side)
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 10:51 AM. Reason : and exhibits fucking stupid logic (false dilemma) in his post above] 6/3/2010 10:48:05 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
The only thing I care about here is that Israeli and Palestinian civilians are protected. Fuck militants the world over.
But also, fuck the racist system that makes Palestinians miserable.
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM. Reason : .] 6/3/2010 10:52:17 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
part of that system included your demigod Arrafat who turned down a two-state solution in the 90s.
was he racist too? 6/3/2010 10:56:41 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Hamas's demands seem reasonable.
Allowing only "approved" items into gaza makes the aid flotilla complicit in the blockade. And Israel still has 60 of the activists(likely not whites) held captive and I'm sure is torturing the fuck out of them. 6/3/2010 10:57:54 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
unbelievable.
using the palestinians as human shields. An involuntary hunger strike forced on the refugees, even, in order to try to accomplish some terrorist group's political goals. 6/3/2010 11:02:32 AM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hamas's demands seem reasonable." |
What?6/3/2010 11:03:12 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "part of that system included your demigod Arrafat who turned down a two-state solution in the 90s." |
(1) He's not my demigod (2) Yes it does include him, just like it includes Hamas and Fatah today
Quote : | "was he racist too?" |
Yes.6/3/2010 11:03:50 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Hamas's demands seem reasonable.
Allowing only "approved" items into gaza makes the aid flotilla complicit in the blockade. And Israel still has 60 of the activists(likely not whites) held captive and I'm sure is torturing the fuck out of them. 6/3/2010 11:10:56 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
^
They see me trollin' They hatin' Patrollin' and tryna catch me trollin dirty
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 11:32 AM. Reason : s] 6/3/2010 11:31:55 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
US Citizen Killed By Israelis
Four shots to the head, one to the chest. Irrelevant, I suppose, but at least they did it right.
Don't worry though, he was brown so he wasn't a real American. Besides, if Obama can assassinate Americans overseas, why can't the Israelis? 6/3/2010 11:40:23 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Weapons found on board.<!--" |
Yeah, last time I checked those can all be deadly weapons. So don't act like an idiot.6/3/2010 11:49:32 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
That's the "evidence" Israel collected of "weapons" on board the ship. If you can find a ship without an arsenal of that magnitude, then you can call me an idiot. 6/3/2010 12:06:49 PM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
again, my chair isnt a weapon until I swing it at you. its all relative. dont be stupid. 6/3/2010 12:16:50 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Hamas making its own people suffer for the sake of trying to make Israel look bad is nothing new.
The more the Palestinians suffer, the more Israel looks like the oppressor they want the world to see. Why would Hamas want to give up such great PR? They are just being more dumb about it now than they have in the past. 6/3/2010 12:22:22 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
They're all worthless. But now an AMERICAN has been killed. This changes everything. 6/3/2010 12:37:14 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Don't ignore that Israel's actions are ugly, racist, and immoral. Hamas pulling similar bullshit doesn't change this fact.
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM. Reason : . ] 6/3/2010 12:37:16 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
Right, but also Hamas has the additional benefit of not being Jews.
right? 6/3/2010 12:59:28 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
What makes you think I'm an anti-Semite exactly other than your staggeringly small intellect? 6/3/2010 1:03:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's the "evidence" Israel collected of "weapons" on board the ship." |
What about the video "evidence" of them attacking the soldiers with those "weapons"6/3/2010 1:13:36 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
What you saw in that video doesn't count as actual violence because they were attacking jews. 6/3/2010 1:15:51 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
I won't get arrested for not telling a cop I have a pencil in my possession if I get pulled over for a speeding ticket. But if I stab him in the arm with that pencil chances are I'll get charged with assault with a deadly weapon.
I have no sympathy for idiots that attack men that have automatic weapons with clubs, knives, wrenches, etc. 6/3/2010 1:16:15 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
ani anti-shemi muchlat!! rega ... nir'ah li she'ani ose et ze lo tov.
lechaloofin: kus ima shelcha ya benzona
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 1:18 PM. Reason : ^^] 6/3/2010 1:18:34 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
What if those men are jews? Don't they deserve to be attacked? I think if someone gets shot because he attacked a jew then we should outraged. Those jews should learn their place and just let people attack them. 6/3/2010 1:18:51 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^ You for real, dawg? Do you really think people are outraged because they hate Jews? Just want to be clear so I can know whether or not to take you seriously ever again. 6/3/2010 1:26:49 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What if those men are jews? Don't they deserve to be attacked? I think if someone gets shot because he attacked a jew then we should outraged. Those jews should learn their place and just let people attack them." |
What do Jews have to do with this? Don't lump all Jews into the same pot for the criminal actions of a government just like you shouldn't lump all Muslims into the same pot because of the terrorist acts of a few fanatics.6/3/2010 1:28:08 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What do Jews have to do with this? Don't lump all Jews into the same pot for the criminal actions of a government just like you shouldn't lump all Muslims into the same pot because of the terrorist acts of a few fanatics." |
Even Golovko's getting it. Solinari: you dumb, dawg.6/3/2010 1:30:52 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you really think people are outraged because they hate Jews?" |
Well how else am I supposed to interpret outrage at perfectly legal and normal reactions on the part of Israel? These people tried to break the blockade. Israel has a right to stop them. When Israel tried to stop them, their soldiers were attacked, thrown overboard, beaten, and apparently shot at. What in the F do you think any law enforcement would do in such a situation? FFS, american police open fire at a lot less than what those Israeli commandos got.
The only explanation is that this is false outrage or antisemitism
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 1:38 PM. Reason : s]6/3/2010 1:38:06 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
ATTN: Solinari. You are worse at trolling The Soap Box than you are at trolling tech talk. 6/3/2010 1:40:50 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Well how else am I supposed to interpret outrage at perfectly legal and normal reactions on the part of Israel?" |
Practically everybody except America and Israel are outraged at Israel's illegal occupation and blockade of Gaza. Oh yeah, and the illegal settlements and land-grabs.
Quote : | "These people tried to break the blockade. Israel has a right to stop them." |
No, they have the power to stop them. They have no right.
Quote : | "When Israel tried to stop them, their soldiers were attacked, thrown overboard, beaten, and apparently shot at. What in the F do you think any law enforcement would do in such a situation? FFS, american police open fire at a lot less than what those Israeli commandos got." |
The protesters certainly provoked the violence. I don't think anybody reasonable is arguing this point.
Quote : | "The only explanation is that this is false outrage or antisemitism" |
The only explanation here is that you can't reason worth a damn you stupid fucking engineer.
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 1:41 PM. Reason : Mathematical janitors getting pissy and thinking they can make arguments ITT]6/3/2010 1:41:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Wonder how much of this anti-semitic talk is simply payback for the constant race card pulling anytime someone criticized Obama before the election... 6/3/2010 1:42:23 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Wonder how much of this anti-semitic talk is simply payback for the constant race card pulling anytime someone criticized Obama before the election..." |
"I just don't trust him..." != "Here are my specific reasons for disliking the actions of a government."
Fuck off.6/3/2010 1:43:12 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
its one thing to be outraged at the blockade, but let's not conflate the flotilla raid with the blockade.
The blockade is debatable. The flotilla raid was by any standard perfectly legal (well unless you're an antisemite, but in that case you hate anything Israel does so who cares about your opinion)
McDanger expresses outrage at the flotilla raid and then when he gets called out he pretends like he's just outraged at the blockade. Nice try, buddy. 6/3/2010 1:44:42 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
ATTN: Solinari. You are worse at trolling The Soap Box than you are at trolling tech talk. 6/3/2010 1:46:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
"I dislike Obama's stance on national healthcare"
"Yeah right, you just hate niggers!11"
dont fucking act like that shit didnt happen, and quit getting your fucking panties in a wad because the tables are turned 6/3/2010 1:46:15 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Don't ignore that Israel's actions are ugly, racist, and immoral. Hamas pulling similar bullshit doesn't change this fact. " |
I'm not saying Israel's past actions weren't bad, I'm just saying it wouldn't be NEARLY as bad if the Palestinians had elected a government that actually cares about the people. Hamas has no interest in a peace agreement or ending the suffering of their own people.
Quote : | "ani anti-shemi muchlat!! rega ... nir'ah li she'ani ose et ze lo tov.
lechaloofin: kus ima shelcha ya benzona" |
Atah yodea l'daber b'Ivrit?6/3/2010 1:55:02 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
"I just don't trust him... (because he's black)" == "Here are my specific reasons for disliking the actions of a government (because they are jews)." 6/3/2010 1:56:30 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^I really wish you would just stop. You're pissing off everyone on both sides of the discussion. 6/3/2010 1:58:54 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
I guess people don't like hearing that their knee-jerk outrage at anything Israel does, whether it is legal or not, is antisemitism. 6/3/2010 2:00:05 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I guess people don't like hearing that their knee-jerk outrage at anything Israel does, whether it is legal or not, is antisemitism." |
Its painfully obvious you are just trolling to get reactions out of everyone. The sad bit is its working on one too many users ITT.6/3/2010 2:02:07 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Atah yodea l'daber b'Ivrit?" |
ktzat, isha sheli mitbolelet 6/3/2010 2:08:01 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "its one thing to be outraged at the blockade, but let's not conflate the flotilla raid with the blockade.
The blockade is debatable. The flotilla raid was by any standard perfectly legal (well unless you're an antisemite, but in that case you hate anything Israel does so who cares about your opinion)
McDanger expresses outrage at the flotilla raid and then when he gets called out he pretends like he's just outraged at the blockade. Nice try, buddy." |
Keep making an ass out of yourself.
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .]6/3/2010 2:09:21 PM |