http://www.testudotimes.com/2011/5/9/2161290/mark-turgeon-hired-draft

5/9/2011 9:05:31 PM

ESPN says he has been offered but no acceptance yet.

5/9/2011 9:27:02 PM

Gary Parrish and Jeff Goodman are both saying Turgeon has accepted the offer...we'll see. I hope he turned them down just so they can suffer more.

[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 9:31 PM. Reason : Washington Post also reporting it. ]

5/9/2011 9:30:10 PM

ESPN says he has been offered but no acceptance yet. has not turned them down yet.

[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 9:31 PM. Reason : .]

5/9/2011 9:30:24 PM

^LOL

5/9/2011 9:32:13 PM

Very good hire if true...

5/9/2011 9:32:46 PM

ESPN now reporting it
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6515713

Edit: Good hire...especially when they missed on their first few guys. Turgeon is a good coach...not sure of his recruiting abilities, but he's in an area with tons of talent.

[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM. Reason : f]

5/9/2011 9:33:43 PM

reportedly 2.5M/yr

seems a bit steep

5/9/2011 9:35:17 PM

^Agreed.

His wiki page hasn't been updated yet...damn MD fans are slow.

5/9/2011 9:37:30 PM

ACC basketball is upgrading coach-by-coach.

Us, Maryland, Clemson, UVA, and BC seem to have made good hires lately over their replacements.

Bennett, Gottfried, Brownell, Donahue, Turgeon look like solid hires.

5/9/2011 9:44:13 PM

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/30801/sean-miller-clears-up-the-misconceptions

Sounds like Miller is at AZ for the long haul...

5/9/2011 10:09:56 PM

landing turgeon kinda gives me blue balls since this had potential to get hilarious if he turned them down but i'll take it

they don't make a big time hire but they'll still be a solid team and the league needs that I guess

5/9/2011 10:16:24 PM

it's good for the acc

5/9/2011 10:17:20 PM

i like the hire because adam gold hates it.

5/9/2011 10:18:11 PM

^why does gold hate the hire? iirc he's a huge UMD homer, but what about Turgeon does he not like

5/9/2011 10:21:10 PM

Turgeon is not a great recruiter.

AG thinks that a great recruiter who is not a great game coach will have success because of the massive amount of local talent.

I think AG is dumb.

5/9/2011 10:30:06 PM

well yeah, Lowe was great recruiter and horrible in-game coach so i can agree with you on that...i would rather a coach dictate the players he brings in rather than players dictating the coach's success (meaning a good coach can do a lot with a little, a good recruiter will be at the mercy of his players' success)

5/9/2011 10:36:33 PM

Maryland is making Mark freaking Turgeon one of the Top 5 highest paid coaches in college basketball.

5/9/2011 10:42:48 PM

^^ Lowe was a good recruiter. He had one great class in five years and even that class wasn't in the "great" category given what Harrow is... Lets not crown his ass considering 3 of his 5 classes were busts -- I'm being kind to the Hickson class because of Tracy.

*** Turgeon is a good COACH. You don't need to be a great recruiter in the DC metro if you're willing to play the game. Sweaty played the game until he lost out on a few big timers and decided to cry and whine instead of manning up like he used to.

[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 10:46 PM. Reason : x]

5/9/2011 10:44:46 PM

^^Wow..."which of these names don't belong?"

[insert list of top 10 paid coaches]

[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 10:50 PM. Reason : ]

5/9/2011 10:49:22 PM

^^should have chosen my words more carefully. great was not a proper choice for describing Lowe's recruiting. but he did bring in some solid talent considering he had no experience coaching in college.

[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 10:51 PM. Reason : .,]

5/9/2011 10:50:56 PM

Quote :

"[insert list of top 10 paid coaches]"

From 2011:

1) Calipari - $4M
2) Izzo - $3.4M
3) Donovan - $3.3M
4) Self - $3M
5) Matta - $2.5M
6) Pitino - $2.25M
7) K - $2.2M
8) Barnes - $2.2M
9) Roy Williams - $2M
10) Howland - $2M

40% of those have never won a title. #4 has a title, but thanks to #1 having no discipline and constantly having his teams with FT problems. If Rose hits a FT or two, then 50% have no titles (Cal's title wouldn't have counted).

Barnes is the most overrated coach in America IMO...

5/9/2011 10:54:41 PM

Quote :

"ACC basketball is upgrading coach-by-coach. Us, Maryland, Clemson, UVA, and BC seem to have made good hires lately over their replacements. Bennett, Gottfried, Brownell, Donahue, Turgeon look like solid hires."

yeah man it really seems like the acc has turned the corner, only possibly questionable hires were wake and gtech but he should at least be able to equal hewitt and surpass most of his results, others should all be clear upgrades (except for maybe donahue, I like him but BC has zero tradition and skinner was the best they had at one point), you left out miami though and I know some uva fans are already getting pessimistic about the uva guy because he hasn't really had a great start

[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 10:59 PM. Reason : k]

5/9/2011 10:54:47 PM

Bennett is a good coach. He'll take a few years to get going though.

Also, Haith was awful. Larranaga is an upgrade for the five or so years he'll be there in terms of pure coaching.

5/9/2011 10:55:35 PM

^^^I agree about Barnes being overrated. That's a solid list of coaches though...Turgeon is definitely out of place among those names.

5/9/2011 10:57:12 PM

I think people are underestimating Larranaga's impact at Miami, and the length of time left in his coaching career.

5/9/2011 11:00:18 PM

Pitino makes like 6 mil or something ridiculous. That list is probably incomplete and he might be around 10 or so but still overpaid. I dont know why people care, though. If a coach is good he's going to end up with a huge salary anyway

edit: apparently this dude got a rep as a whiner about aTm's shitty crowds:



[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 11:16 PM. Reason : ]

5/9/2011 11:01:07 PM

alright well let me sort all this out now:

clear upgrades: gottfried, turgeon in comparison to the program at its stage now, Larranaga

as good and have a chance to be better: donahue, brownell but purnell was doing a fairly good job, brian gregory I doubt he'll make a title game should be better overall than hewitt recruiting the ATL area

jury is out: bennett, bzdelick,

5/9/2011 11:04:26 PM

All 10 of those coaches have a Final Four though, as well as more than Herbesque numbers like Turgeon.

5/9/2011 11:15:22 PM

Bennett has had absolutely no talent to work with. I don't see how he is off to a bad start. They have had the least talented roster since he took over. Landesburg was the only ACC starting caliber player he had and he got kicked off the team early.

5/9/2011 11:16:40 PM

^^Exactly...those 10 coaches deserve to be paid that much. Turgeon has yet to prove that he deserves that type of salary...which doesn't make him a bad coach. His resume just does not stack up to those other 10 guys. But MD paid him what they had to so they wouldn't be stuck with Cronin...hard to blame them for that.

[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 11:18 PM. Reason : arrows]

5/9/2011 11:17:01 PM

I mean I'm happy we did what we did with Gottfried. Money aside, I'll take a guy with the rep of a a recruiter (as long as that isn't all he's good for) over a "good coach." And if you throw the cash in, it's a good deal

But honestly I don't care how much Wendell Murphy is paying. If you can drop 2.5mil to get the best coach out there, you do it

[Edited on May 9, 2011 at 11:34 PM. Reason : fgfs]

5/9/2011 11:33:02 PM

Gottfried is going to get paid $1.2 million.

Turgeon is going to get paid $2.8 million.

Is it really worth paying over double for a guy with a similar track record?

5/10/2011 12:17:14 AM

no, but who cares? it's not like any of us are paying either dude's salary...

i think we got a better deal, but the only thing that will matter is which coach wins more

UMD fans need to stfu though. we didn't want Turgeon, so quit acting like you "won" the coaching search. you got snubbed by the exact same list of coaches we did

5/10/2011 12:32:30 AM

I find it funny that Texas Tech is the premature ejaculate of college sports.

If Tommy Tuberville had waited a few days, he'd be coaching at Tennessee.

If Billy Gillispie had waited a few weeks, he'd be coaching at Texas A&M.

5/10/2011 12:37:26 AM

what are you talking about? Gillispie already coached at Texas A&M

5/10/2011 1:25:37 AM

You don't think he'd go back to A&M before going to Lubbock?

5/10/2011 1:34:24 AM

Currently at A&M for grad school. This is bullshit..........just another reason to hate Maryland.

Apparently we would never take Gillispie back.

5/10/2011 1:46:20 AM

Sup Big Firm

5/10/2011 10:24:35 AM

Quote :

"Apparently we would never take Gillispie back. "

hahaha. you wouldn't take back the only coach who made your basketball program relevant ever?

5/10/2011 10:56:00 AM

Quote :

" UMD fans need to stfu though. we didn't want Turgeon, so quit acting like you "won" the coaching search. you got snubbed by the exact same list of coaches we did "

Are they really talking shit about this hire? This was a guy we interviewed and passed on. Sturgeon isn't a bad hire by any means, but they're paying A-list money for a B-list hire. That will put their athletic dept. in a financial bind for the next several years, especially if he doesn't meet expectations that I imagine are pretty lofty.

5/10/2011 11:29:49 AM

Quote :

"they're paying A-list money for a B-list hire."

this is overly true. that's a huge contract for a guy that's made one sweet sixteen.

5/10/2011 11:51:06 AM

aTm could always hire Bobby Knight!!!!11

5/10/2011 11:51:43 AM

I had no interest in seeing Turgeon here, and I laugh at UMD for hiring him

5/10/2011 11:53:16 AM

I would imagine he demanded extra money given the late hire

5/10/2011 12:35:22 PM

Quote :

"Are they really talking shit about this hire? This was a guy we interviewed and passed on."

A quick read on any of their God awful forums will provide a lot of LOLs. They are basically saying DY fucked up the search and had to settle for a has-been like Gottfried, and that Turgeon turned us down when we approached him, so they 'won' the search. I've read that DY said "thanks, but no thanks" because he gave too much reverence to K/Roy, but they insist that he rejected us like everyone else. They are also trying to down play the fact that Miller played them for a raise by saying that he at least considered them, whereas he didn't even take the time meet with DY. I guess it doesn't matter either way, we have our coach and they have theirs. Neither search went well for very similar reasons. But for them to think they got the last laugh for paying close to $3M/yr for a semi-decent coach is absurd.

[Edited on May 10, 2011 at 12:38 PM. Reason : asdf]

5/10/2011 12:35:28 PM

when Gottfried starts beating the shit out of Turgeon's teams, we'll see who "won"

5/10/2011 1:50:17 PM

Quote :

"After Maryland AD Kevin Anderson allegedly botched his meeting with Arizona's Sean Miller by asking "hell, if it's gonna be that kind of interview, where are the mashed potatoes?" -- the Terrapins finally landed on Texas A&M coach Mark Turgeon as a replacement for Gary Williams."

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/voices/blogpost/9574714/


[Edited on May 10, 2011 at 3:11 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2011 3:10:06 PM

lol wat

5/10/2011 3:11:15 PM

Huh? Is that supposed to be some sort of Beastie Boys, Sabotage reference? What the hell?

5/10/2011 3:18:31 PM