GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
6/28/2011 11:06:13 AM |
ClassicMixup All American 3877 Posts user info edit post |
agreed 6/28/2011 11:08:13 AM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
http://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/85737681123946497
Quote : | "Carolina would like to re-sign Erik Cole, but it doesn't sound like the two sides are close at the moment. However,these things turn quickly" |
6/28/2011 12:20:38 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds like JR doesn't wanna resign anyone. This is getting frustrating. 6/28/2011 12:31:22 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
Frustrating but expected. Small market team general manager vs. agents trying to get the most money for their clients. It's like this every year. 6/28/2011 12:39:10 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Carolina would like to re-sign Erik Cole, but it doesn't sound like the two sides are close at the moment. However,these things turn quickly" |
the same exact thing is said every offseason about a number of players
no reason to think that this offseason is any different
and I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks that shirt is fucking hideous6/28/2011 12:47:31 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
even more absurd is that this years cap floor is $9 million more than the 05-06 cap. Teams like us, Florida, and others are going to have to push in order to hit that $48mm floor.
Why was there a lockout again? 6/28/2011 12:50:52 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah that shirt is straight out of 1988.
I don't know who thought that was a good idea. 6/28/2011 12:56:49 PM |
brownie27 All American 3030 Posts user info edit post |
Well Hell's Bells, I can't see the shirt.
I have an opinion on the salary cap... but I also have conspiracy theory issues I need to get through first.
For some reason, now I can see the shirt. I agree.... gross.
[Edited on June 28, 2011 at 1:43 PM. Reason : Skinnar!!] 6/28/2011 1:42:58 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " RALEIGH, NC – Jim Rutherford, President and General Manager of the National Hockey League’s Carolina Hurricanes, today announced that the team has agreed to terms with forward Patrick Dwyer on a two-year contract. The deal will pay Dwyer $600,000 in 2011-12, and $650,000 in 2012-13." |
[Edited on June 28, 2011 at 4:11 PM. Reason : -]6/28/2011 4:10:36 PM |
ClassicMixup All American 3877 Posts user info edit post |
http://nhlscoops.blogspot.com/2011/06/joni-pitkanen-and-hurricanes-agree-to.html?m=1 6/28/2011 4:10:54 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
food for thought when considering re-alignment:
The horrendously bad travel schedule that the red wings have meant that they racked up more miles than 11 teams last season. Horrifying.
http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2011/6/23/2240779/nhl-travel-miles-by-team-super-schedule
dear detroit, quit your bitching. 6/28/2011 4:11:03 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Dwyer is meh so I don't really know how I feel about this.
I will believe the Pitkanen signing when it's officially announced.
I wonder how much Cole wanted. 6/28/2011 4:14:54 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
of course we re-sign Dwyer first
[Edited on June 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM. Reason : .] 6/28/2011 4:19:37 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
And it looks like Pitkanen is a done deal. Chip saying 3 years at $4.5mm per 6/28/2011 4:30:11 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
6/28/2011 4:35:15 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
that's what he got last year. pipe down 6/28/2011 4:40:13 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
also, Chip said they're already talking about a top line of Staal, Ruutu, and Skinner. That would be fucking RETARDED. Hooray 1-line teams! 6/28/2011 4:43:41 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
the Facebook page is about to get hilarious 6/28/2011 4:44:17 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
I thought he made less last year. Oh well. Either way, I think it's too much, even though I do like him. Since it's the same amount...what was the hold up?
His exit interview from last season just rubbed me the wrong way, though. He sounded like he was ready to get the hell out of here. 6/28/2011 4:44:23 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
joni loves it here. def could have gotten more money after 7/1 6/28/2011 4:46:12 PM |
Jabbo All American 1285 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "also, Chip said they're already talking about a top line of Staal, Ruutu, and Skinner. That would be fucking RETARDED. Hooray 1-line teams!" |
Wat, no LaRose on the top line? 6/28/2011 4:51:56 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
For 3 years it isn't bad at all money wise. After all the hate he got from people like on the Canes FB page he was still close to even on the +/-. Hopefully we can find a partner for him on the top pairing that's more of a shut down type guy. I just hope our offense doesn't take a hit with not resigning Jussi/Cole or someone comparable or better.
I like the Dwyer signing too, solid 4th line player and not too much $. 6/28/2011 5:11:41 PM |
ClassicMixup All American 3877 Posts user info edit post |
If we can get Jussi on board I'll be happy. Joni's exit interview attitude is based on a cultural difference. I'm not gonna go into detail on my crackleberry finn but I can assure you he likes Raleigh and the Canes organization 6/28/2011 5:16:14 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
how much is it going to take to re-sign Jussi?
When Joni actually plays focused he is a great fit for our system, he just takes too many shifts/games off to be our 3rd highest paid player. I wish we could use that money to sign Jussi and then pick up another Bryan Allen/Derek Joslin type player 6/28/2011 5:19:01 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
I think we have an outside shot at getting Jussi back, but I think Cole is as good as gone. 6/28/2011 5:27:31 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
god.
dammit. 6/28/2011 5:36:09 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
? 6/28/2011 5:45:01 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
I'm ambivalent about the Cole situation.
I think that's the most positive thing I've said about him in years. 6/28/2011 5:52:26 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
the re-signing of Pitkanen doesn't necessarily bar the re-signing of Jokinen, but it certainly doesn't help... and he should have been a priority.
I have mixed emotions about Cole.
But Pitkanen doesn't deserve 3 years. Especially at 4.5 million.
The whole Jussi deal reminds me of when Mussina walked from the Orioles - it wasn't so much that he wanted to go, but that the club didn't make him a priority. 6/28/2011 5:56:12 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Nice fucking deal. I thought he was looking at $5 or $5.5.
To put it in perspective BROOKS LAICH just signed a 6 year deal today worth $4.5 million per season with a no trade clause. 6/28/2011 6:05:48 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
^^if you think Joni doesnt deserve 4.5, you're not paying attention to the FA market 6/28/2011 6:08:17 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ glad you're not a GM
first with the Bobcats, now this
[Edited on June 28, 2011 at 6:11 PM. Reason : ^exactly] 6/28/2011 6:10:38 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
If you think Pitkanen, warts and all, isn't worth $4.5, especially with only three years, I have two words for you:
JEFF.
FINGER. 6/28/2011 6:22:55 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
i was expecting those words to be
Quote : | "MATT
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HARDY" |
6/28/2011 6:26:06 PM |
StateCole All American 3597 Posts user info edit post |
Cole has to resign, he's got to dammit.
He's got a hurricanes tattoo
HES GOT TO DAMMIT 6/28/2011 7:49:07 PM |
Cubbie03 All American 513 Posts user info edit post |
He should sign here, it's his home. But as already mentioned, look what Brooks Laich got. Cole has to think he can get at least that if not more. And I'm pretty sure JR hasn't come close to those kinds of numbers.
And I don't mind Joni at 4.5, he would have gotten 5+ on the open market. Plus, he will be entering his prime playing years the next 3 years. Any more than 4.5 would have been too much for his propensity to lose focus so it's a tolerable contract. Don't forget, this guy does play 23+ minutes a night.
[Edited on June 28, 2011 at 8:00 PM. Reason : .] 6/28/2011 7:52:30 PM |
StateCole All American 3597 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ArmstrongWTVD Mark Armstrong Off phone w/ Steve Bartlett - Erik Cole's agent. Says Erik wants to see his market value July 1st - realizes no guarantee of spot w/ Canes.." |
6/28/2011 8:16:35 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
first,
goodlife, nice trollin' bro. We'll see how well those Bobcats of yours do.
second,
Y'all wanna improve defense, yet prioritize bringing back the guy who's on-ice awareness is about as much as the chick behind the Nutty Bavarian stand.
So what-the-fuck ever.
When he's off in Joni-land next year and we're on the outside-looking-in come playoffs, don't bitch. We got him at a fair price, right? 6/28/2011 8:40:37 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not trolling, dick
our D, as lackluster as it is, couldn't have afforded to lose Pitkanen
there is a reason that a majority of the usual Hurricanes posters are 100% behind re-signing him 6/28/2011 9:33:11 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
http://hurricanesbeat.com/profiles/blogs/latest-news
Quote : | ""Cole and Jokinen are not in our budget now," said a disappointed general manager Jim Rutherford. "They are two very good players and two very good people, and I am very disappointed because I like them both. Once things roll out I’m sure it’s going to be a bitter departure, but that’s the way these things go. We’re preparing for Friday and we’re going to do the best with rebuilding our forwards and we’ll see what happens."
Both Cole and Jokinen have turned down substantial multi-year deals. Ron Francis reportedly checked in one last time with Cole on Tuesday to gauge his interest in returning, and then said goodbye and wished his former teammate well." |
Quote : | ""We have a different dynamic this year than we’ve ever had because there are going to be so many teams spending on July 1. It’s going to be difficult to sit and wait to see what happens," Rutherford said. "We’re going to have to be active and see what’s out there."
"With Cole and Jokinen leaving, our team will have to get re-structured," Rutherford said. "We have to totally rebuild our third line, and if we can do that we’re going to be competitive and if we can’t then we won’t."" |
Quote : | "Rutherford was given the green light by owner Peter Karmanos to spend about $5 million more than last year’s budget, or up to around $50 million. That amount of money would have been able to secure all of the team’s unrestricted free agents – including Cole and Jokinen – but both players are seeking more cash on the open market.
"Not that we have a business that supports it, but our budget looks like it’s going to be a hair over $50 million," Rutherford said." |
6/29/2011 12:30:50 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
if cole can get more, good for him.
but a lazy, broken forward ain't worth a ton.
jussi deserves to get paid, though, sad as it may be. 6/29/2011 1:49:33 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Larose, 2 years, 1.7M avg cap hit (1.5/1.9)
motherfucker. 6/29/2011 10:39:26 AM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
I know LaRose kinda sucks but he is my favorite
Thus, I support this move 6/29/2011 10:45:26 AM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT! He's not worth anything over $1mm.
JR's quote:
Quote : | "Chad has been one of my favorite players right through his entire Compuware career, and it is my hope that he is a lifelong player with the organization,” said Rutherford. “His work ethic and locker room presence drive our team, whether it’s a game or a practice, and he excels in his role on the ice for the Hurricanes." |
FUCK ME
[Edited on June 29, 2011 at 10:50 AM. Reason : quote]6/29/2011 10:47:23 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
sigh
here's to another 60 games with Chad in the top 6. fuck my ass. 6/29/2011 10:54:14 AM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he excels in his role on the ice for the Hurricanes" |
6/29/2011 10:56:01 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Gerbe got a 3 year deal worth only 1.433 M avg from Buffalo, for a slightly appropriate comparison.
[Edited on June 29, 2011 at 10:59 AM. Reason : and hes gonna be a lot better than chad] 6/29/2011 10:57:24 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "here's to another 60 games with Chad in the top 6. fuck my ass." |
[Edited on June 29, 2011 at 11:08 AM. Reason : JR HAS LOST HIS DAMN MIND...]6/29/2011 11:05:53 AM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
I get that he's a fan favorite, but those come and go. Move the fuck on from your NAMBLA crush, JR 6/29/2011 11:08:23 AM |