This was pleasing to watch. Others have said it, but I want to reiterate: we finally looked like we had a goddamn plan and knew how to execute. Nobody looked totally lost, nobody was out of control.

I realize that most teams are this way, but the lack of discipline last year started to seem normal, and this is a breath of fresh air. I still think after two games we look like we'll be playing spoiler this year rather than dancing, but I finally feel like I'm allowed to be hopeful for the future of the BB team.

If we can stay healthy, we might even squeak our way into the dance, as this year's ACC is crazy weak.

11/14/2011 9:24:01 AM

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"but [Johnson is] not a good shooter."

He lead his entire conference last year in three pointers made. 36% from behind the arc isn't bad at all. Wood is only at 41%.

11/14/2011 10:39:50 AM

^he made more 3s than wood last year, and wood was tied for third in the ACC.

11/14/2011 10:52:04 AM

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"lobes"

facepalm

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11/14/2011 10:57:48 AM

not gonna lie. i haven't seen 2 games back-back where we've played like a real 'team' since the 80's

welcome back pack. maybe the curse of jimmy V is being lifted

11/14/2011 11:08:03 AM

don't know if you guys have seen the wral post-game interviews but Painter lets slip what we've been hearing all too often now about Lowe which was how much harder practices are, and how hard they go in practice, and how much the coaches and players are on each other's asses, especially his, to step up.

no wonder we saw all this clown-shoes shit and guys trying to win on talent alone.

^ im with you

hell of a stat line: DeShawn Painter finished 6-of-6 from the floor and 7-of-7 from the free-throw line for 19 points.

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 11:12 AM. Reason : ]

11/14/2011 11:09:37 AM

^

wow lowe. really? i guess we were all dumb enough to think he had jimmy v's practices and strategies 100% memorized and would implement them here. sounds like the opposite.


[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 11:13 AM. Reason : ,]

11/14/2011 11:11:35 AM

sorry, yea, fail on me... how much harder practices are now, not under lowe.

11/14/2011 11:13:39 AM

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"how much harder practices are, and how hard they go in practice, and how much the coaches and players are on each other's asses,"

I'm not saying this isn't true, but players on teams that didn't do well the season before always say this at the beginning of the season. Our guys were saying it at the beginning of last year. And the year before. Hopefully this time it's true.

11/14/2011 11:22:35 AM

^ i would agree with that, except, a lot of players are saying it. The way Painter talks about it is that they ask him about conditioning and that he doesn't look winded at all, so he's just explaining it.

11/14/2011 11:24:29 AM

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"Our guys were saying it at the beginning of last year"

guys were saying they went from basically no game structure to something planned, from no drills in practice, and no weight room workouts to doing it multiple times a day?

just interested in a link or source on that. i'll believe you, but just want to see a source of something that crazy like they are saying this year

11/14/2011 11:25:16 AM

I'm not saying they said exactly that. But many of them were talking about how much harder they were being worked, how hard they were practicing, how much more time they were spending in the gym, etc. etc. It's player talk. But I am inclined to think that there may be more truth to it this year.

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM. Reason : ]

11/14/2011 11:27:35 AM

i never said they said 'exactly that' i just asked for just 1 single link to show that they made some huge effort to increase practice efficiency, team chemistry, hanging out together more, going to gym 100x more etc....

thats all. no hate. i like lowe. always will. great player, awesome recruiter, even a decent coach. just had some flaws that look like are being corrected this year.

11/14/2011 11:29:07 AM

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"i haven't seen 2 games back-back where we've played like a real 'team' since the 80's"

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"Age : 20"

Does not compute.

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 11:48 AM. Reason : ]

11/14/2011 11:48:22 AM

hey its pack_bryan bullshitting again!

11/14/2011 11:54:11 AM

Hahaha yeah, I know Herb put together a lot of streaks of at least two games where we looked like a real team. Granted our strategy involved playing shitty, boring basketball, but we were going about it as a team.

11/14/2011 12:24:25 PM

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"JPV14WolfpackJordan Vandenberg Feel kinda bad for that lil dude I blew up with my screen, but as clay matthews says, gotta get in there and blow it up #blindsidescreens"

11/14/2011 12:43:49 PM

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"Granted our strategy involved playing shitty, boring basketball, but we were going about it as a team."

took the words right out of my mouth

GenghisJohn stop being such a GenghisJohn

11/14/2011 1:10:52 PM

anywhere other than espn3 that i can see a replay or at least just one tiny clip of this game?

11/14/2011 1:24:31 PM

---> somebody who dvr'd it from chanel 518

11/14/2011 1:57:04 PM

You guys dont have to like Lobo and that's fine. But I'm probably going to continue calling him that.

Beyond that, I know more about basketball than anyone on this messageboard so the whole "you dont get it" thing isn't going to work.

We've got people in here calling Johnson someone "we will be talking about for years". He's basically Degand. No we will not.

Hodge is someone we will be talking about for years. This guy is not even an impact player. But I hope he does well, we really need a steady ballhandler if he can make shots.

11/14/2011 2:00:34 PM

his ball handling was much better yesterday, shooting will come around

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]

11/14/2011 2:59:09 PM

^^ one person, izzykareem, said that he will be remembered for years. So don't act like the entire TWW is saying that... The rest of the posts were talking about how well he was doing and that his shooting will improve, while backing it up with stats from last year.

You, on the other hand, back your arguments up with "I'm the smartest poster on TWW when it comes to basketball, herp derp".

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 3:15 PM. Reason : .]

11/14/2011 3:10:01 PM

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"Beyond that, I know more about basketball than anyone on this messageboard so the whole "you dont get it" thing isn't going to work."

the sole reason i can't wait for the nba lockout to end

11/14/2011 3:14:53 PM

I dont think he'll be a Degand....I think Bethel would be a better comparison.

11/14/2011 3:19:17 PM

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"Beyond that, I know more about basketball than anyone on this messageboard so the whole "you dont get it" thing isn't going to work."

ahhhhhhhhhh hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
oh shit, seriously, good post man, ha ha ha hah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
for a TWW post, this is just amazingly good lololololol

11/14/2011 3:25:02 PM

What does that even mean?


[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 3:27 PM. Reason : .]

11/14/2011 3:26:45 PM

Johnson is a better passer than Degand, a better outside shooter, and much more quick and athletic

I could tell all that from watching the last 8 minutes of the game yesterday

11/14/2011 3:27:41 PM

^^ it means that maybe we shouldn't make fun of face because he might actually be mentally handicapped

11/14/2011 3:29:47 PM

I wish I could be mod for a day

11/14/2011 3:34:00 PM

Alex Johnson's dad's name is Falex Johnson

11/14/2011 3:41:48 PM

face thinks johnson is just another run of the mill pg, kind of like derrick rose

11/14/2011 3:47:17 PM

well thank god face is wrong.

alex johnson is our Engin Atsur this year. Enjoy him while he lasts.

11/14/2011 3:52:20 PM

^^^haha.

Son of a Farnold.

11/14/2011 4:37:20 PM

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"I dont think he'll be a Degand....I think Bethel would be a better comparison."

Bethel was a far more talented player than Johnson would ever hope to be. Sucks that he was sick/injured so much... Bethel was a starting PG in the Big East as a freshman. Johnson played for Cal-State Bakersfield.

** for what it's worth I'd probably say face does know more about basketball than most if not all of the people on here, but he tends to also ignore human aspects of the game and rely too much on efficiency and rate statistics.

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"not gonna lie. i haven't seen 2 games back-back where we've played like a real 'team' since the 80's"

Did you miss the years Julius was here?

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 4:48 PM. Reason : x]

11/14/2011 4:46:07 PM

I'll say Justin Gainey

11/14/2011 4:49:11 PM

johnson will be a solid role player this year. anyone asking for more than that and criticizing him at all is foolish.

11/14/2011 4:49:12 PM

Face knows his shit...but he's wrong a lot too. And Johnson will be a lot better than Degand, but he's definitely not on Bethel's level.

And that Lobo/Lobe's shit is fucking garbage. Please stop it...please.

11/14/2011 5:04:38 PM

GUYS IS CRAZY

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM. Reason : ,]

11/14/2011 5:35:34 PM

I just got done reading this page and wish I would have beat my head against the wall instead.

you people

11/14/2011 5:45:32 PM

Gainey is a pretty good comparison...

11/14/2011 5:47:39 PM

Not really to be perfectly honest. AJ's style before coming here was a point guard who looked to score more often than a traditional point guard. You can see that in him through two games this season.

11/14/2011 5:51:19 PM

Johnson looks a more in control than Farnold did most of the time. And Johnson doesn't seem to be as prone to make bone-headed decisions. Of course, it's still early.

11/14/2011 5:54:13 PM

11/14/2011 5:54:59 PM

lobo? gottfried must have brought that nickname with him from "allie"

11/14/2011 6:43:37 PM

yea i said i think we'll talk about him for years, I don't mean 20 years, nor did i say anything about his ass winning the Naismith Award or even being honorable mention All-ACC.

I just think we'll do well this year, we're gonna look back on it, and this guy is gonna be a big reason, i think he's going to be a major contributor and he's gonna get our ass out of some sticky spots in games. Not sure what Farnold Degand you guys are talking about but if you're talking about the 100mph turnover machine, then ok, yea, him.

11/14/2011 10:50:42 PM

^ lol spot on. my new fav sports talk poster

seriously no sarcasm. love it.

11/14/2011 10:51:48 PM

It feels very strange to be agreeing with pack_bryan on something

11/14/2011 11:12:07 PM

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" And Johnson will be a lot better than Degand, but he's definitely not on Bethel's level. And that Lobo/Lobe's shit is fucking garbage. Please stop it...please."

This.

11/14/2011 11:22:53 PM

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"It feels very strange to be agreeing with pack_bryan on something"

good job ActionPants. when you get past the skin color difference and the minor political differences you start to see the ice melting??? aint that good shit??

11/14/2011 11:48:08 PM