Doaks (spelling?) could also be one of those hallucination things Dexter has from time to time... either way I'm excited.

12/10/2012 12:07:19 PM

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"That was dumb, she knows his secret. Should have killed her."

Completely agree. Also, Estrada can screw him. He's boned. Series over.

This season is just a litany of Dexter making really stupid mistakes. It feels forced.

12/10/2012 12:57:25 PM

There is going to be an 8th season, so I doubt Dexter gets too fucked over in the season finale

12/10/2012 1:39:36 PM

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"This season is just a litany of Dexter making really stupid mistakes. It feels forced. "

It doesn't feel forced to me. Dexter has become more "human" as the series progresses and he is paying for it.

12/10/2012 3:42:35 PM

^ yeah, he's more reactionary than he has been in the past. And he's killing without as much lead work and what not.


I hadn't thought about the idea that Deb may have poisoned herself. And yes, he definitely should have killed her rather than turn her in. That's beyond stupid. She knows about him and LaGuerta is really onto him now. You have a pissed off ex in jail who knows you're a serial killer and a police captain after to you who is very passionate about it, and she has the power to negotiate with the previously mentioned gf who knows your secrets and is looking at murder charges.

That part of all of this really does seem a little forced to me. Forced in that he had no reason to not kill her. He was going to do it once, and now he had reason to do it. With that plus the fact that she can hurt him, it makes no sense for him to turn her into the police.

12/10/2012 6:32:10 PM

Dexter had never been in love before. Who's to say he had it in him to kill the one person that made him feel human?

Surely the Doakes thing has to be a flashback. Boy there are a shitload of people that could come down on Dexter right now. How he gets out of this one I don't know cause that was a damn good play by Laguerta. Been a great season, so many red herrings to throw us off the scent of Dexter getting arrested, it was all well thought out and far from predictable.

12/10/2012 7:32:51 PM

Deb is going to take the fall for Dexter.

12/10/2012 8:20:34 PM

^ true about the being in love thing, that may have played a part in his decision.

I've also decided that the only person I'll accept bringing down Dexter is Batista.


And I don't know if the writers read t-dub or what, but I said this back in november about doaks:

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"And the final scene of the series is Dexter walking into his apartment (just after getting away with killing Laguerta probably), and he tosses his keys down with that Dexter smirk on his face as the theme music starts to fade in. Leaving the audience to think that this is how the series will end... Dexter just continuing to be Dexter. And then... "Surprise motha fuckas!"

I think hallucinations should count... even if they're a season earlier than i predicted.

12/10/2012 8:39:05 PM

Don't think he had it in him to kill Hannah, but I think Deb poisoning herself could be legit. This season has done its best to make you think one thing and then veer in the complete opposite direction. Was thinking the thing with Estrada was a set up, seemed to time up together too well with LaGuerta's suspicions. Should be a pretty fun season finale, first time I've really looked forward to one since Season 4.

12/10/2012 10:25:42 PM

it's funny that nobody in the show cares that Louis disappeared, other than a few seconds of "you guys seen him? no? welp alright then"

12/12/2012 6:52:33 AM

^ he was fired. So I wouldn't expect anyone at the station to really wonder where he is or anything. If anyone in the cast would care, it would be the nanny. But Dexter got them to break up on pretty bad terms. So it's not unfathomable that she hasn't tried to contact him.

But I assume that someone would report him missing sooner or later.

12/12/2012 9:56:21 AM

It's not like he was a full-time employee anyways, who cares about temps? I think Battista will save Dexter's bacon somehow as his last stand in miami metro and not turn him in. I have read somewhere that a media person thought that Quinn might kill Battista in the final but I just don't see it.

12/12/2012 11:45:30 AM

I definitely think Deb poisoned herself... it was obvious... what with showing her drinking her drink that at no time left her possession.

12/12/2012 4:30:19 PM

Dexter is about to be on Conan in a few min.

12/12/2012 11:18:25 PM

for once I'm actually using Time Warner's Start Over feature

12/12/2012 11:38:16 PM

What if the "surprise mothafucker" is that Hannah is preggers?

12/13/2012 10:06:56 AM

i think whatever evidence laguerta finds that leads to his arrest will be something dexter arranged, will be fake or something and laguerta will be discredited, get fired, etc.

or maybe the scene where he's being arrested is part of a dream sequence and he'll just kill laguerta when he wakes up.

12/13/2012 5:16:14 PM

robo doakes is back for revenge

12/13/2012 8:04:56 PM

Tonight's the night. And it's going to happen again and again and again.

12/16/2012 3:25:41 PM

well now.

She royally screwed up a screwed up situation since they can't plant Deb's gun on Estrada. If she was going to do that, she should have just walked out and closed the container.

Batista knows for a fact that neither Dexter nor LaGuerta were at his party. Deb left. Deb and Dexter came back. Batista will bet he guy to bring him down for real I suspect.

12/16/2012 10:08:58 PM

took them 7 seasons to get to the end of the first book

12/16/2012 11:48:54 PM

Was not a fan of that ending at all. This season had so much promise with great characters, but the plot fell into a black hole.

I guess the Mob running the strip club doesn't care that their main people got murdered?

Is Dex now going to have the urge to kill Deb and be with Hannah?

12/17/2012 8:47:53 AM

Yeah, I'm curious how they're going to clean this up since Deb's car (presumably with the LoJack like LaGuerta's) is at the scene, and now her gun did the shooting, she was hugging the body, etc.

I'll be disappointed if the next season starts and everyone has just moved on or something.

12/17/2012 9:34:03 AM

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"I'll be disappointed if the next season starts and everyone has just moved on or something."

That's what I've predicted to happen

12/17/2012 9:39:51 AM

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"She royally screwed up a screwed up situation since they can't plant Deb's gun on Estrada. If she was going to do that, she should have just walked out and closed the container."

That doesn't seem like a huge deal; since LaGuerta and Deb are both cops in the same department, it's pretty likely they would be carrying the same gun and using the same ammo. Assuming no other witnesses in earshot, they could just discharge a round from LaGuerta's gun and leave it. The real problem is explaining why she got shot while already sitting/cowering down, from a standing position that's not even close to where dude's body and blood were lying. The gun can be faked, but all the other forensics evidence is totally messed up.

12/17/2012 3:07:10 PM

maybe Dexter and Deb can just live in the container, and whenever some cop comes snooping around they can just kill them and stash them in the back of the container

12/17/2012 3:15:02 PM

when I saw how much time was left, I fully expected them to end the season with her still pointing the gun lol

12/17/2012 3:21:34 PM

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"maybe Dexter and Deb can just live in the container, and whenever some cop comes snooping around they can just kill them and stash them in the back of the container"

Seriously, lol. Out loud, in the office, lol.

12/17/2012 3:28:57 PM

Unfortunately Dexter has turned into a show I watch on the side when I'm doing other things.

12/18/2012 8:29:03 AM

So how is Deb not fucked? Her gun was used to kill LaGuerta 15 minutes after she called dispatch asking for the tracking on her car? Would they not just check the lojack on Debs car to see that she clearly was there? Why the hell did they go back to the party, not set up a crime scene and call the police to there?

12/18/2012 8:04:34 PM

We weren't really shown what the crime scene looked like by the time they showed back up at the party. I can't imagine how they are going to get around it, but Dexter has gotten away with some pretty crazy things before. The thing is, usually he has time to plan something... did he have that this time?

12/18/2012 8:52:38 PM

Plan what?

The plan was to make it look like a shootout

and there are two dead bodies with bullets in them in a storage container

I'm pretty sure there was no chopping and dumping involved here

12/18/2012 9:01:00 PM

He figured out LaGuerta was trying to frame him with the guy who ordered the hit on his mother and managed to put in motion a set of events that looked like she in fact framed him, with his bloody shirt from the 70's, remember? He's quick on his feet but I'm not saying he came up with anything, that's why I ended it with a question.

12/18/2012 9:06:04 PM

Dump the bodies, stage a shootout.... It doesn't matter, both deb and laguertas police cars were within feet of each other....

OOPS.

oh, and pretty sure more than one copy of a warrant exists.... Re: the phones

Maybe it was intentional that this shit storm exists. Maybe the next season starts with pure chaos. But I doubt it. The ending was pretty disappointing. Hopefully all the fuck ups turn into an interesting shit storm next season, instead of this ending with a pretty bow.

12/18/2012 9:11:54 PM

^ I think there will be shit storm. It just may not start immediately.

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"The plan was to make it look like a shootout and there are two dead bodies with bullets in them in a storage container"

To be fair, the plan was to shoot her with the gun Estrada had so that it looked like they got into it somehow. That did not happen.

She was shot with Deb's gun, probably police issued or legitimately registered in her name. They can't leave that at the crime scene. So the actual gun that killed her will not be there. He hadn't shot Estrada with LaGuerta's gun yet. So assuming Deb and LaGuerta have the same caliber weapon, he could switch it. He can make it look like there was a struggle, Estrada shot LaGuerta with her own gun, she shot him with Estrada's gun or her own before or after he shot her. The issue there is that if they were to test the bullets to match them to the gun, the bullet in LaGuerta would not match any weapon at the scene. So that plan only works if that's not tested (and it's a tv show so who knows whether that will happen or not).

On top of what will be a faked crime scene, there was a phone call from Deb to someone to get a location on LaGuerta at what I'm assuming was less than an hour before she was murdered. Deb's car (assuming it has GPS since LaGuerta's did) showed up where here body/car was. Deb, it seems, did not call in the murder... AND THEN went back to the party. Assuming it's found out, her car being there is extremely problematic. Her going back to the party and not saying anything will just make it even worse. Even if it's not found out that Deb's car was there right away, anyone knowing that Deb knew she was at the shipping yards on New Year's eve would think "wtf, you didn't think that was odd?... oh, and where did you go?"

Oh, and LaGuerta just tried to "plant evidence" on Dexter... so there's a reason to think Deb may be upset with LaGuerta. Also, Batista knows that Dexter's whereabouts were unknown when LaGuerta was killed.

12/18/2012 10:55:41 PM

I will say this. The moment LaGuerta turned the computer around on Deb to show her the footage of her at the gas station I was like "OOOOOOHHHHHH SHIIIIIIIITTTT!"

12/19/2012 1:20:05 AM

I wonder if Dex will stick to this whole "Estrada is the last" angle they were working with. They've been slowly showing his burgeoning humanity the entire series, it's only kind of logical they work that angle for the last season. I'll be Batista as the retired cop can't let LaGuerta's disappearance go and is the one to finally oust Dexter (and thereby maybe Deb) for what he is.

12/19/2012 7:27:28 AM

I'm not sure I caught the whole "Estrada is the last one" thing at any point. He's the last of the men responsible for killing his mother, but I don't recall anything about him being the last person Dexter will kill.

That being said, I've been thinking they could do something along those lines. Part of this season has been Hannah "questioning" his "dark passenger." And he sort of came around to seeing that it is a choice to some extent. And if it's choice, that means he's not a slave to it and could choose not to kill. And they've played the whole, "would things have been the same if his dad didn't label him so early" angle for a while now. I could see them going that route. But I think I would prefer that he gets killed or arrested and not simply get away with it.

12/19/2012 7:52:03 PM

I still can't figure out how Hannah poisoned Deb.

12/20/2012 3:21:16 AM

Thank fucking Christ LaGuerta is out of the picture. She's been more annoying than Rita.

12/20/2012 7:04:05 AM

Racist

12/20/2012 8:47:06 AM

^ I am but that's not why I can't stand LaGuerta. There are many reasons, her race is pretty low on the list though. /sarcasm

12/20/2012 11:03:18 AM

I'm honestly surprised it was Chuck's wife who poisoned Emily Rose... I really thought she did it to herself.

12/20/2012 11:57:46 AM

I rewatched it last night. I thought this was a great season and really enjoyed the lack of mid-season lulls that previous seasons had a habit of falling into. Things that I noticed/thought about this time around:

-The warrant already has the judge's signature on it, so there's definitely copies of the papers filed with the court and the data is likely on its way (somewhere).
-Deb definitively identifies herself when calling dispatch to find Laguerta's location,
-People are assuming that the cops are tracked from a lowjack on their car but maybe they are tracked based on their radio. This might mean the locations of everybody could still be covered up.
-Between the goodbye in jail and the black phalaenopsis I would not expect Hannah to surface next season.
-People are assuming that this is going to really fuck with Deb's head. That was my initial reaction but now I'm not so sure. Laguerta directly threatened her (and Dexter) with the gas station footage and really backed her into a corner. I'm thinking now that there's a possibility that she may have enjoyed the kill in spite of being so immediately emotional, especially given the contentious nature of the season.
-Is Harrison autistic or developmentally delayed? I think he is though the show hasn't touched on it.
-I can see Quinn using Jamie to dig for dirt on Dexter and be the one to bring him down if their relationship advances.
-The theme of the season, do whatchya gotta do (i.e. survival), was much more subdued than the obvious theme of religion last season. It was just different enough from season 2 to give the season its own distinct flavor.

12/20/2012 12:41:08 PM

^ I thought when Deb called in they specifically mentioned the word car? Or maybe it was in the warrant that Dexter read, so I just assumed they tracked LaGuerta the same way. Either way, someone knows that she called for her location. She then left the party. LaGuerta's time of death will be in that time frame. It's more than enough to look further into it. And I just realized this... if it is a GPS in the car.... Deb's car was just wrecked. Maybe there hasn't been time for a gps to be installed in her new car.

I don't think Deb will end up "enjoying" it in any sense. She chose Dexter over LaGuerta, nothing more. And it was clearly extremely conflicting for her. She's not going to get over that in a short time period. And I'd be surprised if the time-span of the next season is very long.

12/20/2012 2:27:10 PM

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"Is Harrison autistic or developmentally delayed? I think he is though the show hasn't touched on it."

I think the kid isn't the best 4 year old actor or whatever age he is. So his age keeps getting masked because the kid can't read lines all that well. Not like they picked the four year old that had any acting ability to play the role, the kid was shoehorned into it by virtue of getting older.

This could also be why the kid isn't in a more prominent role, too.

12/28/2012 10:05:52 PM

My wife and I started like Season 5 and have really been enjoying the replays on Showtime every Friday. The first 2 seasons have been better than any we've seen so far.

3/11/2013 7:24:28 PM