Bigs need to score better. But i never seen so many ball spin out for us and in for them.


Also every year it get easier to take a loss like them. 5 years ago there would have been some destroyed shit at my house.

[Edited on December 15, 2014 at 10:51 AM. Reason : Fucking Wofford????????]

12/15/2014 10:50:30 AM

where's the photoshop of Karl Hess driving the Hess truck and running over MG?

12/15/2014 11:03:23 AM

I yelled an obscenity, threw a roll of toilet paper into my couch, and then cooked some dinner.

12/15/2014 11:05:15 AM

ITT I learned having a different point of view from the masses means you're a tard or a douchebag.

12/15/2014 11:05:53 AM

k

12/15/2014 11:06:09 AM

being a douche means you're a douche

12/15/2014 11:09:39 AM

My reaction was like..

FUCK! We are gonna lose to fucking Wofford!

OMG whew we barely survive!!

Oh wait of course that doesnt count.. then I went downstairs and ate dinner.

12/15/2014 11:49:27 AM

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"ITT I learned having a different point of view from the masses means you're a tard or a douchebag."

Being objectively wrong, particularly when hating on a player means you are a tard or douchebag. It has nothing to do with the point of view of the masses.

To read these game threads, you would think Cat is the worst point guard in the ACC, the sole reason for both of our losses and a step down from Tyler Lewis. Might be a vocal minority of tards, but sure seems like the prevailing opinion.

12/15/2014 1:47:09 PM

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"I'm most looking forward to which player on our roster will be dubbed a cancer this year."

12/15/2014 1:53:54 PM

FOH haterz

12/15/2014 2:05:29 PM

12/15/2014 2:28:09 PM

from last year's NCCU game thread:

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"CAT!"

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"I think Barber has looked really mature. Not greedy on offense, and not giving up in D."

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"Great recognition by Cat for the pass."

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"in good news, our walk ons are probably better offensively than lewis/washingotn"

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"wallace has been better this game than lewis"

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"Was the cat video because our only bright spot was Barber?"

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"On the positive side they kept fighting to the end and Cat Barber looked pretty impressive."

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"Was Lewis that shitty? Was Barber that good?"

plus lots of bitching about how terrible Central was gonna be before they racked up almost 30 wins

12/15/2014 2:50:37 PM

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"last year's"

12/15/2014 2:59:29 PM

guess you missed all the people acting like Tyler would have been our savior this year

not saying I wouldn't like having him on this team, but I'm not sure if he would have made a difference last night

12/15/2014 3:16:07 PM

I'm not arguing I wanted Lewis over Barber, I'm saying we could use him as a backup PG. We whiffed on Graham, so we are playing Lacey out of position and gasp, Dez Lee, at point as backups. You cannot deny against a team like Wofford, Lewis would help a lot. His size would not have hurt and we could run some halfcourt offense. Barber has got to start hitting outside shots. Teams dare him to shoot 3s and he cannot pull the trigger. It is hard to watch him look, hesitate, and then not take the open shot.

12/15/2014 9:41:21 PM

The Cat/Lewis debate is like the Brandon Mitchell/Pete Thomas debate. Who gives a shit which one is better

12/15/2014 9:42:33 PM

"Come on Tyler, stay with our program. You'll get some legitimate minutes against opponents like Wofford. You're just not good enough for conference play."

12/15/2014 10:32:00 PM

Yeah how dare a player stick around and fight for playing time.

Thus is college athletics in 2014. I'm a superstar! I deserve playing time immediately!

12/15/2014 10:57:16 PM

Face it. Gottfired botched Tyler lewis just like he botched purvis and our team is extremely lacking because of it. Cat is basically like Junior year Javi. He has decent skillset but just hasn't put it together as far as court awareness and frankly we expected him to be much better than even senior Javi and must have him perform at the level of senior javi to consider it an acceptable level of underperformance. Right now we have two guys that create points and they pretty much do that on their own by jacking over defenders. Every now and then we run them off some screens but thats about the only offense we have.

Cat certainly hasn't hurt us but he hasn't helped us either. He's been a decent role player. We need a point guard to penetrate and either score or create for others or at least sit out and knock down shots. Cat is pretty much just a fast break guy. He's like a failed roy williams point guard (britt, drewII).

12/15/2014 11:03:22 PM

Wait a min, so you troll in favor of DD in the football threads, but against Gott in the BB threads?

lol

12/16/2014 12:05:55 AM

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"Cat is basically like Junior year Javi"

I chuckled

12/16/2014 12:22:33 AM

^ I too just posted here because that is the funniest and dumbest thing I have read in a while. JAVI LOL. LMAO righhht.

12/16/2014 1:41:37 AM

E Man with the hot takes

12/16/2014 8:26:48 AM

acceptable level of underperformance.


man oh man can I relate.

12/16/2014 8:33:16 AM

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"Cat is basically like Junior year Javi"

That is some quality trolling right there

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" we are playing Lacey out of position and gasp, Dez Lee, at point as backups. "

Corchiani Jr. has played more minutes at point guard than Dez Lee this season. Lewis wouldn't see the floor this season because of Lacey... He'd be buried as deep on the bench as Dez. I hate that he left as depth is never a bad thing in case of injuries, but right now his being gone is a non-factor.

12/16/2014 9:50:53 AM

Earl & Cat

12/16/2014 9:55:07 AM

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"Corchiani Jr. has played more minutes at point guard than Dez Lee this season."

Didn't Lee play nearly half the Charleston Southern game at point?

12/16/2014 10:28:53 AM

lewis would have been trash this year. it made sense to have a floor general like him while we had warren and turner to score the majority of the points. but shit id rather have a PG who can score or at least throw up a healthy number of shots to bolster the numbers.

12/16/2014 10:31:15 AM

yeah lee did play a lot that game. think cat picked up two early fouls...and we were winning by 20+ the whole game.

12/16/2014 10:34:30 AM

You people realize aaronburro and Earl are the only ones trolling about Lewis right?

12/16/2014 10:59:36 AM

I don't think it's trolling to say we shouldn't have gotten rid of Tyler Lewis.

Cat is a better defender and can drive in to get shots. He's scoring more than last year but not really that much more when you account for the extra minutes he's getting. Granted, he scores more PPG than Lewis ever did but they have different styles.

He's averaging 3.5 assists a game with 1.7 turnovers. He's makes 67.2% of his free throws. His assists and turnovers are the exact same as last year and his FT% is actually down about 2%.

Lewis had 3.8 assists per game, 1.1 turnovers, and shot 74.4% from the line last year with 19.9 minutes per game vs. Cat's stats at 24.2

Personally, I'd rather have kept Lewis.

I thought it was unfair of us to put him in the back seat so quickly when he was the more experienced guard. Even when we put him in and he played really well, we'd just take him right back out and start Cat the next game. It's hard to get in a rhythm when you feel like the first turnover you commit is going to land you on the bench. We gave Cat the benefit of the doubt and chalked it up to him being young and needing the experience but I don't feel like Lewis ever really got a fair shake at that.

[Edited on December 16, 2014 at 2:28 PM. Reason : .]

12/16/2014 2:27:28 PM

I'm pretty sure we didn't "get rid of Tyler", he chose to leave.

and I'm pretty sure Cat will be the better college player, but time will tell.

and yeah, they're trolling.

12/16/2014 2:36:01 PM

^ right.

the coaches likely explained to lewis what his role would be on this years team. he wasn't on board. so he transferred. i don't blame him for transferring. i don't blame the coaching staff for being HONEST with lewis about how they saw his role going forward.

12/16/2014 2:46:15 PM

Ok maybe it was a bit over oard for me to claim he has already done what javi did. I just feel like that should be the floor for him considering how his talent level is much higher.

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"javi Dished out 129 assists for the year, almost double the next highest Wolfpack player ... In 13 games he had at least five assists ... In four games (including the win over No. 7 Duke) he had eight ... His career total of 266 assists ranks 19th in school history ... Averaged 12.5 points over the last four regular-season games ... Had a team-high 16 points in the loss at Virginia Tech ... Matched his career-high with 19 points in the win at Miami ... Was 9-of-12 from the free-throw line, and hit all six attempts in the final 42.7 seconds ... Returned to the starting lineup at Georgia Tech, finishing with 13 points and seven assists in 35 minutes ... Scored 19 points against North Carolina, tying his career high ... At one point in the game, he scored 15 of the Pack's 18 points over a five-minute stretch ... Scored 15 points on 4-9 shooting (5-6 from the stripe) against No. 7 Duke, and also dished out eight assists to just two turnovers ... Scored on a put-back with 31.6 seconds left to tie the game and force overtime against Florida ... Scored the Pack's first five points in overtime, and eight points overall in extra time ... Pulled down a career-best 10 rebounds against Winthrop ... Had 18 points at Arizona ... Scored 16 of the 18 points in the second half, including 10 points in the final 30.4 seconds ... Also chipped in 18 points at Wake Forest ... Scored 11 straight for the Pack in the second half, and 13 of the Pack's final 15 points in that game ... Finished with 15 points at Marquette, dishing out seven assists ... Hit 3-of-5 three-pointers, and was 5-of-8 from the field overall ... Limited to 13 minutes in the first half when he suffered a hamstring injury, but returned in the second half to score 12 second-half points in the Pack's comeback win."

12/16/2014 4:45:49 PM

The first rule of Sport Talk is don't respond to Earl.

12/16/2014 4:57:26 PM

Well its a good thing im not earl. You guys need to stop acting like im trolling just because I stir the pot.

12/16/2014 5:00:27 PM

^^^ haha that's fucking awesome

[Edited on December 16, 2014 at 5:03 PM. Reason : the first sociopost]

12/16/2014 5:02:27 PM

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"I don't feel like Lewis ever really got a fair shake at that."

That's how I feel. I don't know the entire situation, but from what I saw last year Tyler was the better PG and IMHO deserved the spot. If Lewis had a 3 point shot I think things might of been different but he never had a consistent shot which I felt hurt him.

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" Gottfired botched Tyler lewis just like he botched purvis and our team is extremely lacking because of it "

Purvis is not a good PG. I still don't understand someone wanting to play PG with < 60% FT%. I can't think of another PG off the top of my head with such a harsh FT%. Just imagine what end of game situations would be like with him as our starting PG.

Barber is the best we have right now and he will have some good games, but against good defenses I feel he gets exposed as being one dimensional. He gets kudos from me for knocking down 2 straight FTs late last game which he historically struggles with.

12/16/2014 7:50:46 PM

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"I can't think of another PG off the top of my head with such a harsh FT%"

What if I told you there is a starting NBA PG (with a ring) who has managed to shoot FTs that badly for whole seasons?

12/16/2014 8:28:10 PM

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"If Lewis had a 3 point shot I think things might of been different but he never had a consistent shot which I felt hurt him."

This is why he left. Had nothing to do with coaches telling him his playing time was going to be limited. Apparently he was a great shooter in practice, but we all saw what happened when it mattered the most. So he had to transfer and get a change of scenery. Hopefully this will help his shooting touch.

I really enjoyed watching Lewis, and wish he would have stuck around. But anyone who thinks Lewis was better than Barber want watching NC State basketball.

12/16/2014 10:27:19 PM