Yeah, you must be thinking of annoying Boston a-hole Dan Shaughnessy.

10/28/2015 9:53:11 PM

When i see or think of Bernie, I see Bob Ryan.

I'm just giving an everyman perspective to the situation. And everyone hates Bahston.

10/28/2015 9:57:08 PM

Everyone hates
NYC
go Royals

10/28/2015 10:02:03 PM

https://medium.com/@1e3d0077c3ca4df4b260e1ee0bceb6/hillary-clinton-may-have-just-committed-election-fraud-and-the-internet-found-out-part-1-bb7647415a71

Apparently there's evidence that the Clinton campaign has been directly collaborating with a PAC... which is illegal.

11/12/2015 6:39:33 PM

lol a saturday debate. dnc made it too obvious...

11/12/2015 7:41:52 PM

^

11/14/2015 9:49:03 PM

O'Malley is only there so Clinton doesn't actually have to engage in a debate, she doesn't have to directly address Sanders or play to the base as much/make herself look like a lefty for the general elections.

3 debates, a couple on the weekends, one of them a holiday weekend. It's absurd.

11/15/2015 1:45:13 AM

Just seems like a really dangerous and bad strategy by the DNC to push Hillary so much. This doesn't make sense. Kudos to hillary I guess for making friends in the right places, but this shouldn't be how our elections work.

11/15/2015 2:50:28 AM

man I watched last night just to get an impression of Hillary but damn you Joe, a Biden/Clinton/Sanders debate would have been interesting and productive, I mean Sanders was more interesting than I thought but man we needed Joe's off the cuff emotionality to contrast with Hillary's cautious rehearsed stuff, that was just almost a waste of my time

11/15/2015 3:38:55 PM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/14/hillary_clinton_cites_9_11_women_in_defending_wall_street_donations.html

11/15/2015 10:47:48 PM

Quote :

"Apparently there's evidence that the Clinton campaign has been directly collaborating with a PAC... which is illegal."

Quote :

"and it looks like this might involve billionaire George Soros"

Christmas has come early. These slimeballs have been scheming with funding BLM and creating an echo chamber of liberal media racial division. Politics shouldn't work like this.

11/16/2015 9:34:44 AM

Lol

11/16/2015 9:59:54 AM

The only polls I've seen in reaction to the second debate have been of "Democrat and independent voters," but I haven't seen anything that focuses specifically on undecided likely voters.

11/17/2015 2:13:07 AM

12/4/2015 12:25:59 PM

Lumping lawyers into it's own industry isn't very helpful

12/4/2015 12:27:55 PM

Yea, what if you're a law firm representing oil/gas/energy companies?

12/4/2015 2:07:07 PM

it really makes the graphic useless

12/4/2015 2:42:42 PM

I would like to point out that I love how Donald Trump is an industry

12/4/2015 10:12:24 PM

I guess you're being sarcastic, but I'm pretty sure they listed him as an industry because (at least according to him) he's provided the majority of his own funding.

12/5/2015 12:20:40 AM

fucking cnn is not even polling sanders vs republicans

12/6/2015 1:29:16 AM

^The Hillary Machine, not surprised.

I found a few sources saying that while Hillary is killing it against just democrats, Bernie is faring better vs Republicans.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261756-poll-sanders-more-electable-than-hillary-against-top

The Hill has been pretty skewed towards Bernie so I don't know how much to trust them, but Quinnipiac is usually a reliable poll: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2307

[Edited on December 6, 2015 at 3:12 AM. Reason : -]

12/6/2015 3:11:17 AM

^^ Fox News (and the others) did the same thing to Ron Paul in 2012.

12/6/2015 10:10:22 AM

Decent debate, Hillary says some things that are too blatantly partisan, no one pointed out that the rate of growth in premiums was at worst unchanged by ACA, it didn't rise because of ACA.

It seems the 2 major differences between sanders and Hillary are on single payer and boots on the ground. Omalley didn't come off so pathetic this debate, but still pretty boring. hillarys answer on racial justice was pretty weak, so was omalleys.

There was some good anti-trump sound bites all around.

12/19/2015 11:00:14 PM

Everyday I'm seeing more and more polls and articles negating the "Sanders is unelectable" mantra.

12/23/2015 7:41:32 PM

Quote :

"^ Fox News (and the others) did the same thing to Ron Paul in 2012."

12/24/2015 2:26:05 PM

Paul didn't have the support Sanders does

12/24/2015 11:24:01 PM

You must have not been paying attention in 2012, or else you've forgotten.

12/25/2015 10:17:14 AM

maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I thought Ron Paul's big wave was in 08?

12/26/2015 3:27:53 PM

Media donating to Clinton says Clinton won debate? Wow!

12/26/2015 5:43:24 PM

Sanders is very electable, the DNC clearly doesn't want a sanders candidacy.

12/27/2015 1:17:03 PM

Of course they don't. Shit, O'Malley is only on these faux debates so that Clinton doesn't actually have to debate Bernie or directly compare and contrast her views and ideas with his.

She's been the nominee for about 3 years now, it's just been a matter of waiting until 2016 for it to be official.

12/27/2015 8:46:54 PM

Ron Paul is not a good comparison for Sanders, a better comparison would be 2000 John McCain

12/28/2015 10:41:42 AM

Why not 2008 Mccain?

12/28/2015 3:15:06 PM

Sanders doesn't seem like the type to sell out that hard

12/28/2015 3:53:23 PM

is this the new tactic of repub candidates now??

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/12/can-trump-clinton-scandal-revival-hurt-hillary.html

12/31/2015 1:34:07 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/31/martin-omalley-fails-to-qualify-for-ohio-presidential-primary-ballot/?tid=sm_tw

This is pretty sad I think, and it's not a good sign. I don't know any democrats excessively enthusiastic about Hillary, but it doesn't seem like "establishment democrats" are getting excited by anyone. Makes me wonder if we'll have record low turnout the next election.

12/31/2015 4:09:06 PM

most democrats don't even know what a primary is and will start paying attention next october.

1/2/2016 10:38:33 PM

Is anyone going to call the pollsters/media out for their blatantly biased polling?

Trump vs Clinton
Rubio vs Clinton
Cruz vs Clinton

These options are included in every major poll. But what about

Trump vs Sanders
Rubio vs Sanders
Cruz vs Sanders

Sanders has polled stronger than Rubio and Cruz so why doesn't he get included in any general electron polling?

How can they get away with polling like this?

1/10/2016 7:17:17 PM

^http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261756-poll-sanders-more-electable-than-hillary-against-top

Quote :

"Sanders leads Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) by 10 points, businessman Donald Trump by 8 points, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson by 6 points and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) by 1 point in the poll. Clinton also leads the top four Republican candidates, but by slightly smaller margins. She leads Cruz by 5 points, Trump by 6 points, Carson by 3 points and Rubio by 1 point in the survey."

1/11/2016 1:45:20 AM

Sanders is making huge gains this week. Dominating in New Hampshire, winning some polls in Iowa. Its on.

1/12/2016 2:00:09 PM

It's going to be awesome seeing the DNC torpedo Sanders even if he brings the most delegates to the convention. It will be a nice eye opener when people realize that they don't actually get to pick the candidates.

Hopefully something like that, especially if it happens at BOTH conventions will be crippling for the 2 major parties in terms of membership. Unfortunately they're so entrenched I doubt it will lead to the rise or growth of other parties. Probably just more independents and even less popular influence on the Dems and Repubs.

1/12/2016 4:25:41 PM

The only thing that will give way for 3rd party candidates is alternative/ranked/automated runoff balloting.

1/13/2016 5:01:09 AM

Yes, with the way things are currently structured a 3 way race is not viable. The death or fading of one of the major parties is possible. It's highly unlikely, but possible. Many people are disillusioned with the parties we have now.

1/13/2016 3:22:02 PM

I wonder what a Trump and Sanders third party run would do to things (obviously separate campaigns, not those two on the same ticket). That would have to be the best chance we would have to see a third party candidate win it just because of how watered down the votes would be.

1/14/2016 2:34:36 PM

Clinton will not run third party and Sanders will have the nomination

1/14/2016 3:50:05 PM

From a chit chat thread but it belongs here. The realistic reason I support Bernie Sanders because either way nothing will change. Bernie Sanders as president would propose lots of stuff tons of people would like to see done and nothing would happen. Or Hillary will propose lots of half measures that some will like and the house of Representatives will burn her in effigy and nothing will happen. Compared to A Hillary presidency, the Obama years look like Obama and the republicans were sitting down singing kum by ya. Republicans have been preparing for a Hillary run for decades almost, which means a vote for Hillary in the primaries is what republicans want really... Huge turn out of tons of people that hate Hillary with every fiber of their being and Democratic voters going meh..I don't need to vote for her she'll win anyway.. As long as ol trump doesnt strike the fear of doom in the democrats to go vote.Wow long post for chit chat..

1/14/2016 8:28:06 PM

Quote :

"Why not 2008 Mccain?"

Because fuck '08 McCain.

2000 McCain=great...then he went full-retard right-wing idiotic GOP in 2008. Well, maybe not full by 2015 standards, but...pretty fucking full. I voted for him in the primary in '08, then mailed in an absentee ballot from Iraq just to write in "none of the above" in the general.

Also, why would 2k McCain be a better analogy for Sanders than Ron Paul? I think Ron Paul is a pretty good analogy--quirky weirdo personality, silly pipe dream ideas, ideologue rather than pragmatist, cult following.

The difference is less between them as candidates and more than Ron Paul never competed in a primary that featured 2 (or maybe arguably 2.5, or 2.1) candidates running. If the Dems had fielded a group of serious contenders and not just basically deferred to Hillary Clinton, Sanders would be Ron Paul--hanging in there with his core supporters, but not really a factor.

Quote :

"Everyday I'm seeing more and more polls and articles negating the "Sanders is unelectable" mantra."

Right, they're polls of likely voters in the Democratic primary.

1/15/2016 12:39:55 AM

Sanders is the only candidate with policy ideas even remotely close to where we need to be to sail through the automation revolution, which we're already in the midst of, but will ramp up over the next 8+ years.

His trade policies still worry me, but his domestic vision is a necessity... otherwise I think we'll rapidly lose ground to Europe/Asia.

1/15/2016 12:46:28 AM

In the last two days, Hilary has insinuated that Bernie's adopted and step-grandchildren don't count as legitimate family members, and that he is too unhealthy to be president. I'm a diehard democrat, but I will now abstain if she wins the nomination. Fuck that bitch.

1/16/2016 7:01:09 PM

How come this thread is 25% the length of the Republican Primary Thread?

didn't realize TSB was 3/4 on the right

1/17/2016 12:01:08 PM