HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Gordon sat down seven feet above the court over the mascot and didn't win 2/14/2016 12:43:16 AM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
I caught only the dunk contest this morning. Best I've seen in a while with the two sparing each other.
I hope the one in Charlotte will be good next year
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shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Best dunk contest since Dwight Howard VS Gerald Green in 08 I think. Also it has potential to be compared with Jordan vs human highlights in 88.
I wish I have those talents. 2/14/2016 11:09:41 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I'm looking forward to seeing KD and Curry play together tonight. Most people I know don't want to trade for Durant, but I think you'd be insane no to. 2/14/2016 12:00:53 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. That's an insane idea to put they two together. 2/14/2016 12:59:40 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
If it were to happen, they'd trade Harrison Barnes, Andrew Bogut, and probably Andre Iguoadala. They have the cap space for it, so it's definitely possible. I think if they win the title again this year, they'd be stupid not to consider it. Can you imagine having FOUR all-stars as staters for GSW? Holy fuck. I know messing with chemistry is risky, but I just don't see any downside, except a thinner bench. KD is a top 3 player in the league...
http://www.norcalsportsinsider.com/2015/07/warriors-in-prime-position-to-make-run.html 2/14/2016 2:55:01 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Obvious potential downside is his chronic foot injuries. But bogut is getting old and so is iggy
Can't see okc doing a sign and trade for that package i think theyd want more... but if durant doesn't care about the money he could threaten to leave as a free agent and force their hand. After all he's got huge endorsement money.
But yeah draymond, steph, klay, durant, ezeli is the best starting five in nba history probably. Significantly weaker bench but virtually unbeatable if healthy 2/14/2016 3:32:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
I watched zero seconds of the All Star game, but here's next year's logo
dope...but not fuckin with the 91 joint
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
I've still got the '91 all star game tee shirt with Jordan dunking
And I had that logo as a magnet forever... think i lost it in a recent move though 2/15/2016 10:35:56 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
The main game is like garbage, no defense at all. 2/15/2016 10:44:58 AM |
spooner All American 1860 Posts user info edit post |
i watched about 10 minutes of it. i'll admit that i hadn't watched the all-star game since probably 2012, but damn - that was the least amount of defensive effort i've ever seen in a basketball game. even worse than on some of the CBA courts in Carmichael. what a joke. it's one thing to not aggressively contest shots or passing lanes, it's another to simply stand there motionless while the other team runs around you. 2/15/2016 1:54:39 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
it's almost like a dunk contest extended to a whole game, just showing off flashy moves that could otherwise not have been pulled off in a real game. gotta admit it was nice to see d-wade connect with lebron again for some alley oops. None of these guys are going to want to be overly physical and risk getting injured. 2/15/2016 2:01:34 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah it was a little ridiculous with the lack of D, but it allows most of these guys to show off their amazing athleticism and skill which I enjoy seeing. I just wish the game was close and they played for real for the last 5 minutes or so. 2/15/2016 2:53:03 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
This is the reason.
Quote : | "None of these guys are going to want to be overly physical and risk getting injured." |
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
no point in even having that game then 2/15/2016 5:37:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
it's McDonald's Hamburger game for professionals
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shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Bosh's season is DONE, Miami is in declining, which will prove my prediction in the Hornets thread. 2/16/2016 10:42:02 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Bosh with another blood clot scare
^ we'll see what riley does at the trade deadline though
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Frye to cleveland deal is interesting from the standpoint that it indicates they're trying to move love this offseason... 2/18/2016 2:56:02 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
It also makes sense for this season. Thompson and Mozgov can do everything Sideshow Bob does, but better. And Fry gives them the ability to go small but improve their three point shooting. I like the move.
I assume it means they might move Love just because it gives them another SF/PF? 2/18/2016 3:56:15 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
It's a decent move, but it doesn't really matter much. The Cavs are a lock for the ECF anyway. It's not a drastic enough move to beat GS, SAS, or OKC in the finals. 2/18/2016 4:01:55 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Clarify i meant to say "it may indicate" not that they definitely are.
Yeah Frye is a stretch big much like love so im thinking they may have Frye replicate that aspect much cheaper then move love and possibly shumpert for a guard who fits their system better.
The cavs are deep in luxury tax territory so i know they'd like to move on from love for more production if they're gonna pay out the ass for it... or just move on and save money.
The cavs would probably be favored vs okc... and they definitely could beat golden state.. they'd be like 2:1 dogs though... I think they'd beat sas... really just depends on how healthy everyone is though 2/18/2016 4:44:04 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
That's a really good get for Cleveland. Putting more shooting around Lebron is necessary. It still doesn't really address their glaring weakness at SG, but it does get Varejo's corpse off their bench and saves them some salary. 2/18/2016 5:33:18 PM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
SG weakness? I haven't been watching Cleveland basketball but is Mo Williams dead or hurt?
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Ehlo is serviceable at best 2/19/2016 12:09:41 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I think he means weakness when comparing them to two of the best 10 teams in nba history. One of which they will be facing in the finals. I don't think he's talking about the weakness relative to the rest of the teams that don't matter one bit.
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
You surround lebron with guys who can shoot. Shumpert killed the cavs in the finals by bricking every open look.
Love isn't shooting well enough to justify his poor defense and huge contract. And the cavs don't want him at the elbows where he typically thrives because it ruins their spacing. Also, his offensive rebounding strength is negated. They really should have kept wiggins, they'd be a monster defensive team with him instead.
Mo is really, really old. He was brought in so the cavs had a serviceable option to take some ball handling duties in case Kyrie misses games since dellevedova is ineffective with the ball in his hands 2/19/2016 5:43:08 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
they should get bosh 2/19/2016 3:32:07 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "SG weakness? I haven't been watching Cleveland basketball but is Mo Williams dead or hurt?" |
He might as well be. He's not played in about 15-20 games so far, he's been a DNP coaches decision numerous times, and he's lucky if he can give you 25 minutes a game when he does play.
It's not a terrible situation in Cleveland on the perimeter, but it's bad enough that JR Smith is still logging a fuckload of minutes when he really should be the second or third scoring option when they're resting Lebron, Kyrie, or Love.
I'm still not convinced that Cleveland really needs to move Love, but they have to figure out a way to utilize him other than having him stand in the corner and wait for a drive and kick corner three. He's a very versatile offensive player and a monster rebounder, but if they can't utilize him to something approaching the value that his salary would indicate then they should look to trade him. Honestly, if you can't find a way to get offensive production from Kevin Love you probably shouldn't be a coach in the NBA.2/19/2016 4:59:41 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Like i said, cavs would be favored vs okc. That was an asskicking.
The cavs are very underrated as a postseason contender. They're so strong on the glass and defensively.
Its not that they can't put love on the elbow and utilize him, it's just that theyve made the decision they're typically better off with spacing to utilize Irving and lebron. That's why Frye could help them because he offers the same spacing without all of loves defensive limitations guarding the rim or switching.
I agree with them in general but where Blatt made a mistake was never running plays for him or putting him in his most comfortable spots. It opens him up to criticism for low stats and he lost confidence and started shooting poorly. You can't just banish a guy like that to complete role player status without it affecting his overall game.
It just gives them some added flexibility which is key because they didnt have any vs golden state last year. Once gsw benched bogut it forced cleveland to bench mozgov and they were dead in the water.
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Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
They also didn't have Love or Kyrie vs. Golden State. It's very hard to judge what a Cavs vs. Dubs series would look like now based on anything that happened in last year's finals. Mozgov was unplayable when Bogut wasn't on the floor, Tristan Thomspson was amazing on D and on the glass, but was a defensive liability. Maybe you can afford to keep him out there when you do have Kyrie's offense available, but Steph will score 40 a game if they have Kyrie guarding him. I still think Cavs best lineup against GSW is probably Lebron, Kyrie, Love, Thompson, and JR. Frye you can probably sub in to spell Love and Thompson, but I don't think he's really a difference maker. Nice optional piece, but not a game changer.
I think there's almost no doubt that it's going to be Cavs vs. somebody. I think there's a decent chance that OKC can beat GSW in a 7 game series if they can get anything from their 4th and 5th starters. GSW is still the odds on favorite to win the title, and rightfully so, but they've got a potentially murderous path to get there even with home court.
Also, holy fuck Anthony Davis! That was the best performance of the year so far. What's more impressive is that he did it despite the other 4 guys New Orleans started aren't even legit NBA players. I hope to Christ that they figure out a way to put some quality around him, he's too special a talent to waste. 2/22/2016 11:21:21 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
maybe okc can upset somebody but theres no chance in hell they upset two of the greatest teams in nba history back to back. get real. they have 0 chance at the finals. 2/22/2016 11:28:59 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Okc has too many bad players in their rotation like waiters, kanter, and foye.
I wouldn't play love much against golden state it just doesn't work. And i doubt they'd have Kyrie on curry too much.
You gotta remember LeBron isn't playing defense this year during the regular season as part of his plan to stay fresh for the postseason. So when Thompson and LeBron engage defensively Cleveland is a totally different animal 2/23/2016 7:08:32 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 23, 2016 at 10:09 AM. Reason : ;]
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
That underestimates their chances if they stay healthy.
Gotta understand they dont play their guys whole game either.. and they go to the death lineup late in close games.
Ezeli injury hurts a little though 2/23/2016 1:42:30 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
The left games still have a lot of challenges. They have to play with SAS 3 times, OKC twice, MEM twice, DAL twice, POR twice, etc. So pretty tough. I pretty much agree with ESPN. 2/23/2016 2:01:13 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
They'll get there, but their last 25 or so games have some toughies and a few rough back to backs. 2/23/2016 2:22:29 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
They are already the fastest ever to get 50 wins in a season. 2/23/2016 2:25:39 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I think they can do it, but if it's close near the end, I'd much rather them save some strength for the playoffs and win another championship, even if it means sacrificing a game or two. They've already beaten several records and this is unquestionably a historic season. Rings are far more meaningful than regular season records. 2/23/2016 4:04:24 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't be surprised if they swept the spurs. But the spurs have been pretty unreal at home.
Popp will go conservatively though and with ginobili out with shattered testicles i think they're a bad match up with golden state.
I think the cavs are by far the toughest match up for golden state. I also think the Clippers COULD be interesting though these griffin injuries really complicate things.
I'm just not sure about this spurs reboot. I just don't trust parker not to wear down and I dont know if duncan/Aldridge works defensively or not 2/23/2016 5:56:31 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just not seeing it. The Cavs got destroyed at home the last time they played the Warriors. I'm not seeing Frye as the magical piece that fixes their glaring problems. They're 2-6 against them since the Finals last year, and I don't think firing Blatt did all that much to change anything. Will they make the Finals? It would blow my mind if they didn't, but I just don't think they can beat GS like OKC might able to do, or a healthier Spurs or Clipps team.
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Kyrie and love were out last year and they gave the warriors a good run.
Thompson is a tough match up for the warriors and cleveland will roast gsw on the glass.
They've also got the defenders to slow the pace and muck it up in the halfcourt. Plus Kyrie can be hidden on klay because klay isn't that good off the bounce still.
When curry goes to the bench gsw really struggles to get baskets.
Bogut and ezeli are both huge injury concerns. Green and curry are going to have mammoth workloads Inot two tough playoff series prior to the finals.
Whereas cleveland has a lot of depth and is significantly better than their competitors in the east. 2/23/2016 6:53:16 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
that's the second time the dude has brought up last years Finals as if they'd look anything like a possible Cavs-Warriors Finals this year 2/23/2016 7:43:18 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
wat? Did neither of you watch the two games they've played this year? The last one where the Cavs were at full strength and at home? Do they count for nothing? I mean you can doubt the Warriors all you want, but they're not scared of Cleveland. The Warriors bench is too good and Curry has barely played four quarters in any games this season. It's not just Curry and Klay and Draymond. It's Harrison Barnes, and Bogut, and Iggy, and Livingston, and Fetus (when healthy), and even Barbosa, and every now and then Speights has an alright game. People said the exact same thing about the Cavs last year: just wait till the playoffs! Then they said: just wait until they're healthy next season!
It's still early in the season, but this Warriors team could very well be in the midst of creating a dynasty that lasts for years.
haha Cleveland. I guess we'll see...
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fetus (when healthy)" |
gotta get the ultrasound2/23/2016 7:55:40 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
No one is denying the warriors are the favorites but i think vs cleveland it'll be like -210 / +190 and that's just because the general public is going to overrate gsw chances of beating cleveland .
I've watched both games in their entirety. The game on Christmas was close.
Speights is terrible btw. Barbosa is washed up... ezeli is injured. Bogut won't really play vs cleveland. Golden state offensive numbers are flat out awful when curry sits. Klay is probably the most overrated player in the league.
Barnes is ok, iggy is still very effective. But golden state is a 2 man wrecking crew. And James and Thompson are too. Cleveland hung in there running iso all series last year. This year they have other players too.
That doesn't mean golden state isn't the clear prohibitive favorite. 2/23/2016 9:03:25 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Obviously GSW is the strongest team over the last decade and they will beat whoever the eastern champ is with 4:0 or 4:1. They should of course save some energy for the playoff and don't get exhausted too early, but it's historical moment too to break this record, a once-in-a-lifetime chance probably. They can't miss it. 2/24/2016 11:07:01 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
They are gigantic underdogs to sweep cleveland. Probably like a 5% chance. 10% max
Took all they had to beat miami tonight .
I live this team. One of the best of all time clearly. They are the best regular season team ever for sure whether they go 72-10 is irrelevant.
But they are not the most likely championship team ever. There are several very strong teams this year
This isn't gonna be a walk in the park
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Of all the other 10 best teams in nba history, golden state is the only one that will have had to face an opponent as good as this year's spurs.
there have never been two teams this good in the league at the same time. it truly is historic. 2/24/2016 10:10:15 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^^ who said anything about a sweep? All I said is that they aren't afraid of Cleveland, and they really shouldn't be. 4-2 wouldn't surprise me, although I could also see them going 4-1 as well. Even in a 7 game series, I still see them pulling it out. They're just too good at home.
This GSW team is pretty remarkable though. The most mind blowing stat I've seen has them winning over 100 straight games when at any point in a game they've had a 15 point lead. That's just nuts.
Quote : | "Klay is probably the most overrated player in the league." | ha nope. Your boy Kawhi deserves that title this season.
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