he's too old and slow to hang in the playoffs

and he gets like 2 assists per game over his career. elite passer? Vlade Divac and Arvydus Sabonis were elite passers

[Edited on May 10, 2016 at 1:33 AM. Reason : holy shit Curry is back]

5/10/2016 1:30:12 AM

what does that even mean?

he isn't asked to do much more than protect the rim, rebound, set screens, and make passes, which he's still doing in these playoffs

him fouling out tonight doesn't mean he's worthless

and yes, he's an elite passer. assists are only awarded to the player who passes to the dude who makes the shot. secondary assists don't show up in the box score as assists.

[Edited on May 10, 2016 at 1:36 AM. Reason : .]

5/10/2016 1:34:10 AM

Holy shit curry

5/10/2016 1:35:02 AM

he's a huge asset against teams that aren't so dynamic on the perimeter.

5/10/2016 1:35:23 AM

LOL draymond had his arms up as soon as the shot went up

5/10/2016 1:38:02 AM

he's the worst athlete that gets playing time in this series, including Plumlee

[Edited on May 10, 2016 at 1:39 AM. Reason : .]

5/10/2016 1:39:08 AM

who said anything about him being athletic?

5/10/2016 1:41:38 AM

I said he couldn't hang in the playoffs, which he can't

5/10/2016 1:43:39 AM

whelp, guess that answers whether Steph could come back to form.

5/10/2016 1:48:11 AM

not that hard to look up his playoff stats

he can obviously still hang in the playoffs

5/10/2016 1:48:44 AM

Not that hard to watch him compared to the other 9 players on the floor and see he can't. Any average or better center would thrive in that offense with the spacing and attention that the guards demand.

5/10/2016 1:53:31 AM

Bogut is fine. He's probably the only rotation player aside from Barnes that hasn't gotten significantly better since last year, but that's not saying a whole lot. Comparing him to Plumlee is a goddamn joke though.

[Edited on May 10, 2016 at 1:55 AM. Reason : .]

5/10/2016 1:54:27 AM

^^ haha

just own your Hot Take and take the L

[Edited on May 10, 2016 at 1:55 AM. Reason : .]

5/10/2016 1:54:54 AM

"not that hard to look at his playoff stats" in a vacuum, as if he isn't a beneficiary of any success by playing on the most talented team in the league who has literally revolutionized spacing and how opposing teams have to play perimeter defense in the game of basketball. But that box score is all that matters, right?

[Edited on May 10, 2016 at 2:05 AM. Reason : whenever you drop a "haha" you know you're in over your head, it seems]

5/10/2016 2:05:06 AM

Damn. Curry with the unanimous MVP. Never thought it would happen, given all the Kawhi and Lebron lovers out there there.

5/10/2016 12:44:23 PM

Na his resume this year was entirely too impressive to not be unanimous.

5/10/2016 2:14:54 PM

I actually am surprised. It was well deserved bit you had to figure somebody was going to vote for Lebron or Kawhi, or accidentally vote for Seth Curry.

50, 45, 90 shooting and 30ppg plus 73-9 made it pretty hard to not vote for Steph.

5/10/2016 2:43:40 PM

Lol...NBA refs.

Leonard CLEARLY fouled Westbrook before his drive to the bucket...in a situation where you know a foul is coming. Smells funny.

5/10/2016 10:35:39 PM

Hard to feel bad for SAS there, they were getting all the calls in that game. Kanter was getting whistled every time Aldridge touched the ball, KD got hacked a few times with no whistle, etc.

It's hard to watch Ginobli and Parker out there sometimes, they just look a step too slow on a lot of possessions. Kawhi and Aldridge are carrying them right now.

They've still got a shot at getting it back home for a game 7, but they need one of Green, Parker, or Ginobli to step up and contribute big on the offensive end.

5/10/2016 10:41:45 PM

seemed like a lot of shitty calls went okc's way but I don't see any one call that cost them the game, SA has def looked beatable all series, might just be kind of a transition year for them, they look a little lost on offense at times, the old big 3 need to step up more, not just be content to be shitty role players

( man DG is such an awesome defender, SA in general still playing great defense, so fucking stupid he can't get on an all defense team)

[Edited on May 10, 2016 at 10:45 PM. Reason : k]

5/10/2016 10:44:48 PM

Duncan literally cannot play in this series. There's no one he can guard on OKC, and he's very limited on offense. They're much better off with Aldridge, Diaw, West getting those minutes. As great as Duncan has been he's a huge liability for them in this series.

5/10/2016 11:06:19 PM

Quote :

"Kawhi and Aldridge are carrying them right now."

and Durant and Westbrook are carrying the Thunder

as the best players tend to do

5/10/2016 11:07:27 PM

Yes, but OKC is getting significant contributions from Adams and Kanter. Spurs are getting dick from their complementary guys.

5/10/2016 11:14:43 PM

^^^what about adams? duncan was still pretty killer in the playoffs last yr scoring wise, hard to believe he's had such a huge drop off in one yr

(and don't forget DG had a big night from 3, I mean how bad the Spurs offense would have been without him)

5/10/2016 11:46:03 PM

I'm shocked. I said durant and westbrook couldn't go for 60ppg and thats what they had to do but here we are with them one game away from the huge upset.

5/11/2016 12:14:04 AM

Spurs old guys look even older in this series. Looks like they've completely run out of gas and I wouldn't be surprised to see OKC wrap this up the next game. Duncan needs to sit, but even Parker and Ginobli look slow and are playing poorly.

Looks like the changing of the guard for SAS.

5/11/2016 9:00:00 AM

Westbrook was amazing in the 2nd half last night. Love that guy.

5/11/2016 9:02:49 AM

Ninja turtle series 2

5/11/2016 10:14:16 AM

It's really time to move on from parker and duncan they stink.

Still kinda shocked at the reversal of this series but okc has a good team. They just didn't play like this all season. If they'd looked halfway decent in the regular season i may have given them a chance to win the series. Very surprised they snapped out of it, they lost way too many games this year down the stretch.

Now I'm having to question if they could beat gsw... I just don't think so. Too much firepower.


I mean parker or mills is not a huge difference but they simply can't keep putting duncan out there. Go with boban to neutralize the glass.


Oh and tmac saying the league is diluted because steph won unanimously is the most DELUDED thinking ever.

5/11/2016 8:19:38 PM

Thug Curry

5/12/2016 1:34:56 AM

That shot to put them up 5 was unfuckingbelievable. His clutch free shooting locked it up. He's a killer.

5/12/2016 1:42:47 AM

Can't decide which is the more favorable matchup for the Warriors. OKC is obv less disciplined and thinner on the bench, but they've been playing at an elite level throughout the playoffs and it would definitely be the more entertaining series. SAS looks old, tired, and out of sync, but they've got a HOF coach, a deep bench, and LMA/Kawhi as superstars. Either way, I hope for a game 7 to allow Draymond and Bogut to heal up.

5/12/2016 11:52:14 AM

we'll see if parker bounces back but man he's aging worse than I thought he would, last year I thought he was just hurt although maybe that still is the issue or it's combination, I figured he'd have a good two more years left at least, I always thought he was absolutely key to their title runs so I'm just wondering if SA just might not be an elite team anymore

5/12/2016 3:32:58 PM

Quote :

"he's aging worse than I thought he would"

15 years in the league averaging 72 regular season games and 14 post season games a year will wear you down

[Edited on May 12, 2016 at 5:22 PM. Reason : it would be pretty crazy to go to a team like San Antonio and make the playoffs your entire career]

5/12/2016 5:13:23 PM

Some guys slowly decline, some guys drop off a cliff.

5/12/2016 5:44:52 PM

^^yeah but he's never been a super athletic player so I figured he'd be better, a player like d.wade who's just total athleticism I kind of expect to just fall off a cliff as ^ said (like vince carter just went to nothing at a certain age) so it kind of surprises me he's playing better than parker right now

didn't realize he'd been in the league that long though, didn't think of him as super young when he joined

[Edited on May 12, 2016 at 7:44 PM. Reason : k]

5/12/2016 7:44:18 PM

I think he was 17 years old

He was young, I think he was 17 on the French national team, then went to the Spurs the next year

[Edited on May 12, 2016 at 7:46 PM. Reason : .]

5/12/2016 7:45:55 PM

Parkers entire game was predicated on speed and quickness. Getting layups and springing open for midrange jumpers. He can't hit the jumpers anymore and he doesn't get many layups. He was the catalyst for their offense all those years, now he can't be. But yet he's still shooting for some reason

5/12/2016 8:06:52 PM

It is easy to forget the thunder had Westbrook get injured one year, ibaka the next, and durant the next year. Most likely cost them 2 finals appearances and 1 wcf appearance.

And the harden trade which is probably the worst trade of my lifetime.


I feel like they're gonna close out the spurs tonight, that rebounding advantage is just huge. I'm trying but I can't think of a team whose done this big of a 180 from regular season to postseason. Okc looked very unimpressive all season, I probably watched 20 of their games. They did not look capable of this

5/12/2016 8:32:05 PM

I don't think anything is wrong with the spurs. They aren't an offensive juggernaut and okc has stepped up their d. The games are being won because durant and westbrook are playing at a high level simultaneously and then making clutch plays down the stretch instead of turnovers.

I said before the series they would need to get like 60 combined every game to win and thats about what they've been doing. Westbrook's assists and clutch play at the finish has put them over the edge. I don't think they can keep this up for a long period of time but now they just have one more game to have the series.

5/12/2016 8:39:36 PM

I think Waiters and Kanter are both playing much better in the post season than in the regular season which may be the biggest difference.

OKC has been a horrible match up for the Spurs for the last few years because of their athleticism. Parker and Duncan's total collapse has just exacerbated it. Aldridge is a great replacement for Duncan, but as I believe face and I both said in the NBA thread, the Spurs might be better off starting Mills to save Parker's legs for the pkayoffs.

They just never found an adequate replacement for Parker or Ginobli, and against an athlete like Westbrook that's death.

5/12/2016 8:50:40 PM

man the spurs need to stop this we can't score for 3-4 minutes at a time shit

lol poppovich is hilarious, hope he sticks around after this year

[Edited on May 12, 2016 at 8:58 PM. Reason : k]

5/12/2016 8:56:54 PM

Pop is going to be around a little while longer, he told Aldridge he would when they recruited him. That said, this game/series has been painful as hell being a Spurs fan. They need some guys to step up and fast.

5/12/2016 9:20:41 PM

this is shocking

the rise of adams also must be acknowledged. They have filled out their lineup. Was game 1 just a hustle?

[Edited on May 12, 2016 at 9:25 PM. Reason : billy d has never lost a playoff series]

5/12/2016 9:25:18 PM

Wow, 24 pts lead at the half. It's almost done.

5/12/2016 9:29:30 PM

^^ Adams was a really good pick. He's tough as hell and his offense had evolved steadily. OKC will not win a title without a decent wing though. Their best lineup now will not work against GSW or Cleveland. They desperately need a competent SG. Waiters is serviceable, but they're in a similar situation as the Clippers. Their best lineups have a glaring hole.

You just can't play two big without one of them being a stretch player who can also play some D.

5/12/2016 9:38:59 PM

Okc size is just alarming. The old zig when everyone is zagging approach always yields results.

They present a really interesting matchup now with golden state.

Can golden state go small against these guys??? I'm not so sure. I really don't know if you can go small when they throw 2 of the adams/kanter/ibaka at you with durant at sf. Their SG are all tall and Westbrook is a pretty big guard who plays incredibly big.

5/12/2016 9:40:25 PM

Its different because SAS are not great on offense. OKC won't score enough with a big lineup to keep up in a GSW series. Westbrook and durant have to keep scoring 60ppg against GSW to even have a chance.

5/12/2016 9:49:14 PM

Golden state is at their absolute alex with a lineup of

Curry, Thompson, Iguodala, Barnes, Green. The whole key is that Green can guard anyone. But barnes and iggy vs adams/kanter/ibaka & durant??

I don't know if they'll hold up. Which if that's the case they have to play bogut a lot. And bogut only averaged 20 minutes a game this year. So let's assume they bump that to 26 because he gets in foul trouble if he plays much more.

That still leaves 22 highly questionable minutes at center if they can't go small. I like Ezeli, but he hasn't been healthy and he's played more than 10 minutes only 6 times since January 25th.

Golden state is horrible anytime varejao is on the floor. I don't think you can rule it out that cleveland is still paying him and he was sent to destroy the warriors title chances

5/12/2016 9:58:17 PM

OKC hasn't played well against GSW for the past few seasons and I think Kerr is worlds better than Donovan. It'll be an exciting series, but it will be a monumental upset if OKC takes it. Dubs in 6 is my guess.

5/12/2016 10:06:17 PM