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Hey dmspack and justinh524, too bad we didn't play Anya over Kapita, right?

1/23/2017 10:55:50 PM

dmspack
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kapita played really good.

do you expect me to argue that?

1/23/2017 10:57:13 PM

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You sure did argue that Anya was better and Gott was justified in playing him so much and letting Kapita ride the bench....so yea...

1/23/2017 10:58:02 PM

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do you think Gott is just a total moron at basketball or that maybe Kapita recently showed something that told Gott he was ready for another chance and he made the most of it?

1/23/2017 11:00:02 PM

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Ha! a total moron.

Kapita showed he was capable of this earlier in the season.

Dude, in the post game he said, he decided to play him first off the bench because of "a hunch".

so yeah, total moron.

(and everyone saw it too..Gott was asked in the presser by Giglio or someone a couple games ago why Kapita didn't play any minutes, and he had no adequate answer)

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 11:07 PM. Reason : i mean...watch a game, guys]

1/23/2017 11:04:00 PM

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I, too, attend every practice

1/23/2017 11:09:18 PM

ohmy
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Right, because Gott cited practice as a reason, is known to be great rotation manager, and play in practice is a lot more important than play in games

1/23/2017 11:10:23 PM

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Yurt's still soft as fuck, he brought nothing to the table tonight (not the Anya would have...would've been a terrible matchup especially given the pace). Kapita played fantastic, and brought more energy and toughness than any big man has had all season for us. Again...you'll get no argument from me. I like when State wins and when State's players do well. So I'm very happy he had by far the best game of his career tonight. We wouldn't have won without him. Abu played a strong 2nd half, but he was pretty non-existent in the 1st half. This was also a terrible matchup for Anya...there are times when he's effective and absolutely deserves to be on the court. I take it you skipped right over the BC game where Anya was clearly our best post player on the court. yet again...i'm hardly arguing that Anya is some monster that needs 38 minutes/game. But Christ if you can't see how ineffective Yurtseven is, and even Abu at times (hell Kapita has had about 2 good games in his career)...and that Anya is actually an effective player in certain matchups then I really can't help you.

but i'm glad you took an entire 2 hours to enjoy the win before digging up this argument.

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"(and everyone saw it too..Gott was asked in the presser by Giglio or someone a couple games ago why Kapita didn't play any minutes, and he had no adequate answer)"


practicing poorly is the answer Gott gave, and that's pretty adequate. I have problems with Gott as a coach, but that's a totally legit reason to bench a player. if it sent a message, it clearly worked tonight.

and let's quit acting like Kapita's been doing this shit all year. he did this vs fucking St. Francis earlier and that's about it. otherwise he's been kinda meh all year.

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 11:13 PM. Reason : f]

1/23/2017 11:11:15 PM

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Hahah...not gonna read all that...still arguing Kapita should ride the bench after a game like tonight...insane...but yeah I was out watching the game, not sitting behind my keyboard for two hours

[I did read it... I think you just wrote all of that to say you finally agree with me?]

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 11:14 PM. Reason : ]

1/23/2017 11:12:17 PM

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^not remotely what i said

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 11:14 PM. Reason : (that he should ride the bench) goddamn you're dumb]

1/23/2017 11:13:49 PM

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^^he thinks Yurt rebounds efficiently.

1/23/2017 11:16:45 PM

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"I did read it... I think you just wrote all of that to say you finally agree with me?"


christ. i'm not exactly backing down from my previous argument that Beejay has proven to, at times, be a better defensive option than any other big on our roster. Yurt's soft, Abu can't guard a 5, and Kapita hasn't ever played like he played tonight. if kapita can play on a level even close to what he did tonight, then yes...kapita deserves to play every minute of every game (till he fouls out).

i didn't realize the argument that beejay was sometimes a good defensive player and better than the other shit options was such a hot take.

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 11:19 PM. Reason : d]

1/23/2017 11:17:42 PM

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Here's exactly what you said

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"he's not as bad defensively as you say. And the other options are no better"


so, to paraphrase, Kapita is not better than Anya. All of this in the context of arguing Kapita should get way more minutes, and Anya less. You argued against that, as well. Who's dumb?

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 11:21 PM. Reason : I don't think you're dumb...just really reluctant to admit you're wrong]

1/23/2017 11:19:53 PM

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I'm so jelly of you youths.

I'm bout to fall asleep happy-drunk with the TV on, and y'all in here arguing with vigor.

1/23/2017 11:20:25 PM

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"but yeah I was out watching the game, not sitting behind my keyboard for two hours"


what in the fuck does that even mean


Also to add on to dms point, w/out Anya we'd have a loss to Tenn St on our resume. Kapita was a no-shown in that game.

I'm curious which of Kapita's performances made you so sure he was so good? Illinois is like the only team inside the top 150 RPI that he played well against

1/23/2017 11:22:44 PM

ohmy
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it was in response to
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"but i'm glad you took an entire 2 hours to enjoy the win before digging up this argument"


and yes, Gott is definitely still learning about his team. He might want to hurry...

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 11:25 PM. Reason : ]

1/23/2017 11:24:49 PM

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I'll revise

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""but yeah I was out watching the game, not sitting behind my keyboard for two hours""


I'm glad you rushed home from your watch party to argue on the web

1/23/2017 11:26:54 PM

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^^wait but that hurts your argument. He was ragging on you for not enjoying the win and shitting on gott only 2 hours after the game. But its worse, you werent at home and as soon as you hit your couch you came here to talk trash.


I just thought of something. Ohmy = face EXPOSED

JEVONI ROBINSON IS A STAR

[Edited on January 23, 2017 at 11:29 PM. Reason : ^LOL EXACTLY]

1/23/2017 11:29:03 PM

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"so, to paraphrase, Kapita is not better than Anya. All of this in the context of arguing Kapita should get way more minutes, and Anya less. You argued against that, as well. Who's dumb?"


I can't really say it any other way...I've already said it multiple times. Kapita was great tonight.

That has not at all been the case all season by any stretch

1/23/2017 11:30:32 PM

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I know this game isn't really a rivalry, but I always get way more excited about playing Duke than UNC. For whatever reason Duke games are often close and exciting, they are usually really fun to watch.

1/23/2017 11:45:26 PM

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We have 4 serviceable bigs. Each have some upside and big negatives but all can contribute. I don't get arguing over who is better than who. They should all rotate and play so they have energy and make teams prepare for all since all 4 are very different on both ends of the court.

This team is lacking for sure but we have depth. Use it. I hate how it seems like Gott either loves you and you get all the minutes or he hates you and you are benched. There is no middle ground. We have 9 guys that should all get minutes. DSJ should play as many as possible and honestly the rest should all rotate and then ride the hot hands. So now Kap plays a ton and we never see Anya? That's dumb.

1/23/2017 11:56:59 PM

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Pass and dunk from Smith to Abu was #4 play on SC

1/23/2017 11:57:44 PM

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beat duke at cameron... and people are in here trolling each other. come on

1/24/2017 12:00:51 AM

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huge lapse in d by Luke to give mav a wide open go ahead 3.

1/24/2017 12:18:36 AM

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^ it's really just ohmy trying wayyyy too hard and falling flat on his face tbh.

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 12:24 AM. Reason : Perhaps he had too many pops while he was "out"]

1/24/2017 12:22:03 AM

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Dennis Fucks

1/24/2017 12:25:24 AM

skokiaan
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Kapita hanging on the rim was one of the funniest things I've ever seen

1/24/2017 12:31:22 AM

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Duke missed a lot of open 3s this game and smith hit an unusual amount of 3s. Regression to the mean upcoming



And Gott is a total moron not playing Kapita the whole season. The offense is smith in transition. He didn't play Kapita because he can't run UCLA high post, but UCLA high post sucks anyway

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 1:14 AM. Reason : .]

1/24/2017 1:13:14 AM

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"Yurt's still soft as fuck, he brought nothing to the table tonight"


Careful now. packboozie swears he's a lottery pick.

1/24/2017 6:49:17 AM

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So one good win against a pretty bad Duke team and all of a sudden all is forgiven for this embarrassing group of players? These same players that had the second worse NC state loss ever, to UNC at that and then went on to lose to BC, GT, and Wake is now getting a huge welcome next to the bell tower for beating a coach K less Duke? I would understand if Duke was top 5 but they were number 17, wolfpack nation should not have given these guys that sort of a welcome.

I am sorry but you can't act like a big program and talk a big game and then embarrass yourselves for half a season. Good win sure but let's not be too quick to forgive a group of players that have consistently shown to be lazy and average.

1/24/2017 7:25:28 AM

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"Careful now. packboozie swears he's a lottery pick.

"


ehh...i mean, yurt still has a lot of potential. he's just not a 1 and done....or if he does go pro, it's 100% on potential because he's shown very little. best thing we can hope for him would be him to do the alex len thing and come back for next year and play himself into the top 10. but yeah, he's got a ways to go.

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"I know this game isn't really a rivalry, but I always get way more excited about playing Duke than UNC. For whatever reason Duke games are often close and exciting, they are usually really fun to watch."


we usually play Duke better. not that our record vs Duke is good...but it's better than our record vs UNC in recent years. under gott, it's seemed like the Duke games have always been exciting and fairly competitive.

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"So one good win against a pretty bad Duke team and all of a sudden all is forgiven for this embarrassing group of players?"


nobody's forgiving all the bad shit we'e done earlier this season. at all.

1/24/2017 7:37:57 AM

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^^ill take, and celebrate, any win over a ranked team. gtfo.

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 7:41 AM. Reason : []

1/24/2017 7:39:52 AM

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There is a reason that UNC typically is up for and destroys us and it all starts with Roy. He HATES NC State. It is the best thing about him. I hate how gushy K gets when we play the. It's fake and sycophantic.

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 7:41 AM. Reason : Best thing meaning that is what a rivalry should be like. Fuck nice.]

1/24/2017 7:41:09 AM

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so many chances for our team to quit last night, down by 10+ points, how many times have we seen that story.

Instead they went on some amazing runs and the defense in the 2nd half, while not perfect, showed a hell of a lot more effort.

Hopefully it leads to a tipping point for the team











lol yea right.

1/24/2017 7:52:23 AM

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1/24/2017 8:07:56 AM

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Just saying. Its hard for me to give this team any credit because I was at the Dean dome until the clock hit 0. Would have forgiven that had we not gone on to embarrass ourselves even more at home to GT and Wake. I am not falling for it again this year.

I'll remind you guys that CJ Leslie and that team beat a number 1 (maybe 2?) Duke at PNC. That team went on to go to the sweet 16 and we were talking about wasted potential. Now compare that to what many thought was the best NC state team in a while coming into this year. This win just goes to show we had potential to be a good team but we won't even make the tournament.

1/24/2017 8:08:01 AM

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Fucking college kids were celebrating on hillsborough like we won the national championship.

We won, but we also lost

1/24/2017 8:39:32 AM

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You tell em

1/24/2017 8:41:40 AM

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Duke was wide open from 3 all night long, especially down the stretch. Just got lucky they were bricking them which is so unusual for dook. Not to say I'm not super stoked to beat Duke in Cameron for first time in decades. I'll take that win however I can get it of course.

But String together some wins (not Gonna happen). Get some momentum from this game(yea right, lol), and don't get blown out in next 4 games (WilL happen)

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 9:09 AM. Reason : X]

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 9:10 AM. Reason : G]

1/24/2017 9:05:40 AM

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"Duke was wide open from 3 all night long, especially down the stretch. Just got lucky they were bricking them which is so unusual for dook. Not to say I'm not super stoked to beat Duke in Cameron for first time in decades. I'll take that win however I can get it of course."


yeah our defense wasn't really that good. grayson allen was like 1/9 on 3PT shots...and most were very open

1/24/2017 9:12:41 AM

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I am just glad amile didnt kill us. Dude always seems to rub it in that we didnt land him.

1/24/2017 9:16:08 AM

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^^Yeah, our defense was bad about giving up open 3's, but the zone did keep them from driving into the paint as much in the 2nd half. Their whole offense is built around driving and dishing. Allen is an absolute beast at the rim too. The zone gave up open threes, but a lot of them were taken out of rhythm and taken deeper than Duke typically shoots because they weren't created off penetration.

I still think our players have no idea what they're doing in the zone most of the time, but I'll take it.

1/24/2017 9:44:04 AM

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"Fucking college kids were celebrating on hillsborough like we won the national championship. "


ohboyeee, you really are the worst. what's your damage?

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 9:47 AM. Reason : i bet you had a lot of fun in college]

1/24/2017 9:46:35 AM

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Nothing is more ass-clenching than State trying to inbound the ball in a close game. And it has somehow been that way my entire life.

[Edited on January 24, 2017 at 9:52 AM. Reason : .]

1/24/2017 9:52:44 AM

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I'll admit, I did cringe a little when I saw that we had a crowd at the bell tower for beating a down duke team. That said, our revenue sports haven't given us much else to celebrate the last couple of years so I guess you take whatever chances you get.

1/24/2017 9:53:13 AM

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beating them for the first time in Cameron since '95? and they are ranked #17.

I think it's a fine time for college kids to celebrate and have some fun.

1/24/2017 10:04:33 AM

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"Nothing is more ass-clenching than State trying to inbound the ball in a close game. And it has somehow been that way my entire life."


Ahaha, This a million times.

1/24/2017 10:12:50 AM

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Wallpaper

1/24/2017 10:14:19 AM

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He had 12 and 16 the last game. And he still will be dumbass. He's a 7 footer that can run and shoot.

1/24/2017 10:26:37 AM

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"I'll admit, I did cringe a little when I saw that we had a crowd at the bell tower for beating a down duke team. That said, our revenue sports haven't given us much else to celebrate the last couple of years so I guess you take whatever chances you get."


we hadn't won @Duke in some of these kids lifetimes. i'm cool with partying for near about anything in college.

1/24/2017 10:27:58 AM

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