xmikemasonx Veteran 339 Posts user info edit post |
its days like today that make me glad i bought SKF and shorted UYG, up 18.65% and down 19.84% respectively. 9/30/2008 12:46:26 AM |
kwsmith2 All American 2696 Posts user info edit post |
Just a note for active traders.
There is a real chance that we will see a collapse near the bell. Not a guarantee but look, the quarter is ending. Whatever is on managed funds books is whats going to go out in the quarterly report. Lets say, that Congress looses it tomorrow and decides to kill any chance of a bill.
Financials in particular are going to tank along with Tech. Who wants to have that on their book? Just a thought. 9/30/2008 2:51:07 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Not to mention all the day traders who were chomping at the bit to buy after the huge drop yesterday who will be selling before the bell figuring it will tank again soon. 9/30/2008 3:32:14 PM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
no sell off - no worry 9/30/2008 4:12:02 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
hanging on to yesterday's RIMM and CHK for a few more days atleast 9/30/2008 4:45:59 PM |
joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
If you are concerned about a $700 Billion bailout, you should realize that today alone, the stock market lost $1 Trillion. 10/1/2008 12:45:13 AM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
Dead cat bounce? 10/1/2008 5:49:39 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
^^ been taking your talking points from President Bush? Nice, that will get you far....
btw, if you actually think that temporarily-lost shareholder value among investors and the gov't pulling money out of our pockets to pay banks is the same thing, you're a fucking douchebag 10/1/2008 7:04:10 AM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
just dumped a bunch of my stocks... kept INTC CSCO and GLW
even with CSCO, down just about 7% with INTC and down 25% with GLW (may dump eventually dunno yet) 10/1/2008 11:04:03 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
buy low sell high 10/1/2008 11:13:16 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, I thought it was the other way around. 10/1/2008 11:16:27 AM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
looking for buys now 10/1/2008 12:26:00 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
we jumped 6 percent this morning, then tanked during lunch hour, now up 4.5%
it's so unstable that it's actually pretty stable!
ooh 4.79% now
stock market is crazy, which is why i dont have the balls to play with anything more than the one company i have to trust
4.62% 4.45%
OMFG MY KIDS COLLEGE 10/1/2008 1:14:08 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
which company 10/1/2008 2:22:46 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45179 Posts user info edit post |
/me is gonna buy your stock cheap here in a few months, thanks for driving down the prices for me though! (i take a very very long view of the market 20+ years) 10/1/2008 2:34:52 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
wtf
http://tinyurl.com/52kuhf 10/1/2008 2:52:46 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
anyone investing in a particular financial before the senate vote tonight? 10/1/2008 2:57:30 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
meh I'm holding off till another paycheck, it'll probably be up again tomorrow and down again Friday. 10/1/2008 3:03:32 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's so unstable that it's actually pretty stable!" |
that is a valuable piece of insight you've gleaned.
volatility is nature's movement towards price efficiency.10/1/2008 3:17:10 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
6.5%
see its just pointless to watch it change all day. i could never do that with a whole gang of stocks. but you guys know how it is... you gotta pull for the home team 10/1/2008 4:57:09 PM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "anyone investing in a particular financial before the senate vote tonight?" |
GNW10/1/2008 5:41:08 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
USB at all time highs despite this shit storm - that's hard to ignore. maybe valuations are a bit rich, and maybe it'll roll over/pull back as the final sign of a bottom. i wouldn't go long many a financial, but if forced to, this would be the one . 10/1/2008 6:47:01 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
bill passed, lets see what happens tomorrow 10/1/2008 9:38:45 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
yeah - everyone knew it would this time though - so will be interesting 10/1/2008 9:45:01 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
fuck this shit, fuck this bill, fuck helping companies that fucked up 10/1/2008 9:48:36 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
fuck this shit, fuck this bill, fuck helping companies that fucked up 10/1/2008 9:49:13 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
in other news
i paid too much for a place that i couldn't afford, i lost money when i sold it and now i'm paying the fucking difference out of every fucking pay check i make..and now these banks get a free pass?
FUCK. THAT. SHIT. 10/1/2008 10:04:05 PM |
pmcassel All American 1553 Posts user info edit post |
^its not as simple as the banks get a free pass 10/1/2008 10:12:41 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
k, turning it into the gov't basically buys their stock at a random value that is impossible to calculate with tax payer dollars with the intention of eventually selling it at a profit is basically the bigger picture unless I'm missing something--and if I am, please inform me 10/1/2008 10:17:50 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Well, hopefully selling it at a profit. That's not really the point though. The point is to get the credit markets flowing again. They just want banks to keep on lending. 10/1/2008 10:23:02 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
wamuq is a great pick right now 10/1/2008 10:59:16 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
GE is killing me. 10/2/2008 11:43:02 AM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
i sold all my GE 2 days ago got out at 5% up 10/2/2008 1:18:31 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i sold all my GE 2 days ago got out at 5% up, minus taxes, so I actually lost money relative to today's inflation" |
10/2/2008 1:35:47 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
or i could be down 15% more? i'll re-buy in the teens.
and i'll have capital loss, so no taxes
[Edited on October 2, 2008 at 1:44 PM. Reason : ] 10/2/2008 1:43:29 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
NYSE: POT is looking tasty long-term.
INTC getting beat up
[Edited on October 2, 2008 at 3:33 PM. Reason : ] 10/2/2008 3:28:18 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i'm, uhh.... glad that makes you happy? 10/2/2008 3:34:12 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
What's the max you can write off, 3K? 10/2/2008 3:43:38 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
3k per year.
losing money in the stock market doesn't take away from my level of happiness, thankfully. i'll get it back eventually with the right plays.
[Edited on October 2, 2008 at 3:47 PM. Reason : ] 10/2/2008 3:44:18 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
When can I buy back the same stuff, 30 days afterwards? 10/2/2008 3:46:20 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
same day? 10/2/2008 3:48:20 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
No way. 10/2/2008 3:51:14 PM |
FIVE O All American 1525 Posts user info edit post |
30 days after to avoid the wash sale rule, right? 10/2/2008 4:42:00 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, that's what I thought. Come on bous. Get on the ball. 10/2/2008 4:44:55 PM |
P Nis All American 2614 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NYSE: POT is looking tasty long-term." |
Potash is one of my top buys. WTF happened to it today though? At this price..... im all in 10/2/2008 5:06:27 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
David0603: if you sell even or above, you can re-buy soon no? or can you still not re-buy for another 30 days if you will potentially claim the NEW sale at a loss? that wouldn't make much sense though. 10/2/2008 5:24:47 PM |
FIVE O All American 1525 Posts user info edit post |
The wash sale rule only applies to losses. If you sale today for a gain, you buy the stock back anytime you want. PS, anyone buy any Wachovia this week? I managed to get in at $2.26 on Tuesday. 10/3/2008 9:32:03 AM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
it's really just there so you don't sell while down - rebuy and hold - and expect to write that previous sale off, right (i.e. do that at the end of each tax year)? as long as you sell for good (i.e. 30 days), you can still write the losses off? 10/3/2008 9:57:41 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
We were just talking about 3K loss write offs. That's exactly what I was planning on doing.
[Edited on October 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM. Reason : sp] 10/3/2008 10:00:53 AM |
FIVE O All American 1525 Posts user info edit post |
^^ya, that's my understanding of it too. 10/3/2008 10:08:11 AM |