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"it this explained in the comics?"

No. I'd say the show has tried to explain this better than the books have. LudaChris's explanation sums it up best.

10/19/2012 12:14:03 PM

^Yeah, and I assume the grave digging guy from Season 1 was Jim who was bitten on his arm when the zombies attacked the camp outside of Atlanta. I don't recall ever seeing any zombie show, movie, or book where a bite didn't cause you to turn. I can't recall anywhere else where they quickly thought to try to amputate the area where someone received a bite to try to save the person. I guess we'll have to see how it goes with Hershel.

10/19/2012 12:31:48 PM

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"I wonder HOW everyone initially got infected. Maybe making contact at one point, and getting zombie blood into their system. I suppose the infected zombie blood will still spread in your system, but doesn't actually turn you until you die. So what about someone who never had any type of contact with a zombie or any on infected, would they remain unturned when they die? I think so. I suppose this explains how brashly they go into combat in the show, not giving a shit about zombie blood splatter. Maybe this means Hershel is perfectly fine after getting his bitten leg cut off, unless the blood loss kills him. The wound would not have had time to become infested with any bacteria from the bite, and spread disease into Hershal, killing him that way. As long as they carterize the would, and prevent any infection from an open and untreated wound, Hershel is going to live. So basically, if you get a scratch or a bite, you are okay, as long as you treat it and prevent a bacterial infection or significant blood loss. Got it. With that said, it is still gross that Glenn kisses Maggie's blood covered back. Eww."

I think that based on the implication that EVERYONE is infected, there must've been some sort of airborne pathogen that everyone has been exposed to.

10/19/2012 12:49:20 PM

Now that that is solved, lets go back to the prospect of Lori's love child baby literally tearing her a new one. Is there a doctor in the house wolfweb? What kind of damage could an unborn zombie baby do inside of a body? There is no teeth to bite, minimal muscle structure to pull/tug/push/grab. Are finger nails developed enough to scratch, causing internal bleeding? Can an unborn zombie baby start to rot or accumulate bacteria? The most I can fathom is the baby starting to squirm a lot, causing a lot of discomfort for Lori.

On the other side, if Lori turns, would she tear into her own body to eat the baby? That would be a wild scene to see. I would rather see Lori turn, and everyone try to rescue the baby out of her, then the baby turn, and everyone try to rescue Lori. I really don't see the show just letting her have the baby in peace with no complications. Something is going to go down.

10/19/2012 12:54:14 PM

my wife noticed during the "this season on the walking dead" preview after the premiere that Lori wasnt in many (if any) of the previews. And you definitely dont see a baby anywhere

10/19/2012 12:56:28 PM

Death = zombie
Wound + death = zombie
Wound from zombie bite/scratch = accelerated infection + death
zombie blood/saliva in mouth = bad breath

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"I wonder HOW everyone initially got infected."

This hasn't been explained. I hope it never does. I like it better that way.





[Edited on October 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM. Reason : gg]

10/19/2012 12:57:27 PM

^^maybe they are trying to keep out any spoilers, because they read this thread, and saw how much everyone hates to know what's going to happen next.

[Edited on October 19, 2012 at 1:03 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2012 12:58:18 PM

Has El Nachó read any of the comics?

Or is he just being a douche for douche's sake?

10/19/2012 1:01:37 PM

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"This flaw is almost as bad as the zombie that picked up the rock to smash threw a store window in season 1. Get those fine motor skills out of my zombie show!"

Remember there was also that one zombie that climbed the chain link fence going after Glenn and Rick after they had covered themselves in zombie guts in the first season. I'm thinking maybe that the zombie infection can mutate and maybe 1 out of every 5000 is "smart".

10/19/2012 1:20:22 PM

Yea, there were three early instances where zombies used fine motor skills
Picking up and throwing a rock
Climbing a chain linked fence
Turning a door knob - I seriously almost quit this series when I saw this in s1e1

There haven't been an other cases since these three back in season one. I don't think there was any virus mutation, just dipshit writing in those scenes

10/19/2012 2:04:32 PM

I was interested in the blood thing too when this season was getting hyped.

I seem to remember one of the first episodes Rick or someone says something to the matter of "dont get it on you, you'll get infected"

anyone know that reference?

10/19/2012 2:08:12 PM

Yeah, it's when they figured out that the Dead could smell living humans. So they find a dead body and hack it to pieces and cover themselves in the guts. They cover their face and hands when they're hacking. Was the dead body a zombie who'd been shot in the head? Or was it early in the outbreak, and not all humans were infected yet?

10/19/2012 2:14:29 PM

^ yea exactly. they covered their faces and hands when hacking the body up. walking around among the zombies there faces weren't covered so i guess the zombies couldn't smell the "alive" part over the bulk of the "dead" part.



[Edited on October 19, 2012 at 2:46 PM. Reason : .]

10/19/2012 2:43:38 PM

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"I don't think there was any virus mutation, just dipshit writing in those scenes"

Bingo. Like a non-magical virus that somehow infected everyone on the planet simultaneously but doesn't kill you except when you get bit by a zombie.

10/19/2012 2:56:45 PM

^that's not how it works (and we get it, you think the show is stupid, why keep coming to this thread?)

10/19/2012 3:06:48 PM

Primarily to laugh at the spoiler/no spoilers schism, but as much as I don't like this show it is essentially the only zombie horror (a genre I really do like) show in town. Is this the circle-jerk-over-how-awesome-this-show-is thread?

10/19/2012 4:25:36 PM

I too, have been a fan of the zombie horror genre for a long time. So, which zombie movies do you find more believable and think contain less plot holes than this series? I'm curious, I think I've seen a lot, but I find this series more believable than most.

[Edited on October 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2012 4:37:20 PM

A world-wide outbreak of a bite induced zombie outbreak has always bothered me. I feel it would be isolated to a relatively small geographic region. obviously it would spread initially before people were aware what was happening, but eventually there would be a quarantine etc. The idea that there is an airborne (presumably) virus that reanimates corpses is more believable in terms of world-wide spread to me. Bites still 'spread' the virus, but only because they speed up the death process.

the fence climbing zombie still pisses me off, at least it was an athletic looking black man, so its more believable.

10/19/2012 8:02:07 PM

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"the fence climbing zombie still pisses me off, at least it was an athletic looking black man, so its more believable."

Oh so it's ok to be racist, but it's not ok to talk about the comic book?

[Edited on October 19, 2012 at 8:42 PM. Reason : .]

10/19/2012 8:41:55 PM

It's ok to be racist in the TV thread. What part of TV don't you fucking retards get?

10/20/2012 1:48:07 AM

How is this thread any different than the Game of Thrones thread? They specifically made a different thread for people to talk about the tv show in the context of the books.

10/20/2012 8:42:37 AM

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""I don't think there was any virus mutation, just dipshit writing in those scenes" Bingo. Like a non-magical virus that somehow infected everyone on the planet simultaneously but doesn't kill you except when you get bit by a zombie. "

Other than the CDC guy, none of the characters would be able to know how this "virus" works.

You can't really take anything any character says as gospel.

To my knowledge, the show has never shown anyone turn just by coming into contact with zombie guts/blood, this was made clear in the episode where the guy cut his hand on the knife after stabbing zombies.

We don't know how the zombies work, except people who die will turn, and people who have been bitten have turned. To my recollection, the show has been pretty consistent in this.

10/20/2012 12:50:47 PM

I thought this pretty much nailed it from what I've gathered, minus one small change

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"Death = zombie Wound + death = zombie Wound from zombie bite/scratch = accelerated infection + death zombie blood/saliva in mouth = bad breath --- Right, because you're already infected. Once you have the chicken pox virus, you have it. You won't "get it again" by being in contact with someone showing symptoms."

They are all infected already. The virus just doesn't "express" itself until you've died. Getting bit by a zombie may cause you to turn, but only because it causes you to die and you happen to be infected.

[Edited on October 20, 2012 at 1:55 PM. Reason : .]

10/20/2012 1:54:08 PM

^ Seems spot-on.

10/20/2012 4:48:39 PM

It could be that everyone carries a benign version of the virus that activates upon death into its zombie form. A bite introduces the final zombie virus in a very high concentration that takes over the body and causes death.

That or the body can fend off the virus naturally but the bite has a very high concentration...dunno.

Either way, not sure how it goes down when Glenn licks Maggie clean of zombie blood and gore.

[Edited on October 21, 2012 at 2:04 PM. Reason : Lol damn it i think i just repeated ^^... Whatevs]

10/21/2012 2:04:18 PM

Here's some good discussion on bites, but oh sweet jesus there's some comic discussion sprinkled around so tread with caution!!! There are spoiler tags

http://www.reddit.com/r/thewalkingdead/comments/11ufvd/clearing_up_some_things_about_walkers_and_the/

10/21/2012 3:21:47 PM

not having read either the comics or spoilers, I don't agree with what that guy has to say. I like my interpretation better.

10/21/2012 5:12:39 PM

not wanting to read anything that may have spoilers, I like your argument more too!

10/21/2012 5:38:11 PM

10/21/2012 6:02:42 PM

One thing I've never understood about zombie canon is muscle rot. I'm sure it has been explained at some point in this thread, but I just don't know. If it is something supernatural bringing the dead back to life, sure. But if its a virus, then tissue still deteriorates.

10/21/2012 9:06:17 PM

dish & amc reached an agreement!!!!!!!!!!! it's on channel 131 for free for everybody right now!!!!!

10/21/2012 9:13:59 PM

I wish we can all just be friends and work together in harmony when the world goes to shit in a zombie apocalypse.

10/21/2012 9:29:21 PM

Carl: "Get off my back you stupid bitch whore mom"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... what a bad ass


R.I.P. Big Tiny - we hardly knew thee

[Edited on October 21, 2012 at 9:38 PM. Reason : ]

10/21/2012 9:32:56 PM

Carl stay in the cell block

10/21/2012 9:39:06 PM

Carl =


[Edited on October 21, 2012 at 9:42 PM. Reason : ]

10/21/2012 9:41:16 PM

GG Rick.

10/21/2012 9:45:03 PM

fuck yea rick

10/21/2012 9:45:15 PM

lololol

[Edited on October 21, 2012 at 9:46 PM. Reason : im starting to believe there is malice in his heart]

10/21/2012 9:45:23 PM

Rick giving absolutely no fucks any more. I like it.

10/21/2012 9:46:09 PM

LOL DAMNIT... so close to Hershel mouth fucking Lori zombie style

10/21/2012 9:49:45 PM

1st ever double post... i am so embarassed

[Edited on October 21, 2012 at 9:50 PM. Reason : ]

10/21/2012 9:49:45 PM

I've got the weirdest boner right now

10/21/2012 9:58:36 PM

so yea, i liked that episode.

2 for 2 in my opinion

10/21/2012 10:03:33 PM

DAMNIT, CARL, LOCK YOURSELF IN A CELL! NOW!

10/21/2012 10:07:25 PM

So, what did we learn today folks:

1) Rick is willing to kill living people for the safty of his own group.
2) Carl continues to be a rogue, but at least he's useful. oh, and he hates his mom
3) Hershel is alive... for now
4) Lori performed her most useful act in 3 season by saving Hershel
5) Carol is educating herself as a second medic
6) Big Tiny died

10/21/2012 10:07:50 PM

something is stalking Carol thank God for that.

10/21/2012 10:14:54 PM

what happened after rick & lori were talking on the bridge type thing outside? my dvr cut off

10/21/2012 10:25:28 PM

^^probably Michonne

10/21/2012 10:30:10 PM

^^ nothing, end of episode. Lori just seemed butthurt that Rick doesn't want to talk about their relationship in the middle of a zombie apocalypse

^no, that's dumb, try again

10/21/2012 10:36:59 PM

Rick pretty much refused to look at Lori the entire episode

10/21/2012 10:40:28 PM