Greg Doyle is on the case!

8/21/2012 1:42:32 PM

I sure am glad that the NCAA has determined that our admissions process was correct and he is OK to attend class. meanwhile, Julius Peppers can barely spell his name and only maintains eligiblility by taking courses we know were fake, and the NCAA doesn't give a rat's ass about it.

8/21/2012 2:02:27 PM

HERE WE GO

8/21/2012 2:06:07 PM

^^ That's right. Because the NCAA didn't give the entire UNC athletics department the death penalty the day JP's transcript surfaced they don't care one single bit.

8/21/2012 2:13:07 PM

Article I don't remember seeing before (Old: December 2011)

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/12/18/1717076/nc-state-basketball-recruit-works.html

8/21/2012 2:37:22 PM

Is it very competitive?
If not, I want to try.

[Edited on August 21, 2012 at 2:56 PM. Reason : add another note]

8/21/2012 2:55:28 PM

^^^No, they didn't give them the death penalty.

They also didn't lift a finger to look into the additional possibilities of longer and more systemic academic fraud. In fact, they made an official statement that the classes were UNCs problem and not an NCAA issue.

8/21/2012 3:02:12 PM

^^^Nice article.

Quote :

"McNair, 38, and Purvis were wary of the stories about top-level athletes who either never qualified for college or failed to maintain eligibility once admitted. Or even worse, those who just got by. "That's something I never wanted to happen to me," Purvis said."

Poor guy. Seems like a great kid who made a conscious, deliberate effort to do everything well, not just "good enough." I hate to see such behavior met with doubt and criticism by the NCAA. Whether it's justified or not, it creates a "no good deed goes unpunished" attitude.

8/21/2012 3:12:16 PM

I just don't know why they couldn't have started investigating the high school, if it's just procedure on every new high school class, when he was still a highly lauded recruit. Why wait until now?

8/21/2012 3:14:41 PM

They've been busy counting all that Sandusky money. Penn State paid in kid's lunch money apparently.

8/21/2012 3:31:28 PM

^^ yeah i don't understand that either... i mean why someone in the upper tier of recruits didn't get vetted you know... before the school year starts

8/22/2012 8:14:10 AM

so I dont know how true this is (or if its been mentioned before) but Adam Gold commented yesterday that on grades K-9 at Upper Room are accredited, the remaining classes wont be accredited until 2015. So that explains that part of the story

8/22/2012 8:28:31 AM

I believe it's because they are brand new and accreditation takes a couple of years to achieve. Not because they failed the accreditation.

8/22/2012 8:32:05 AM

^^that's the what I read last week. It takes years/graduating classes to earn accreditation, so it's no sign of wrong/bad-doing by the high school, it's just new.

Some genius UNC fan pointed out that there were no URCA classes listed as approved on the NCAA's website as some proof that Purvis/URCA are trying to cheat/game the system, etc... well, you can't have classes approved by the NCAA until the NCAA reviews them, which they don't do until there's an athlete needing to be cleared, which doesn't start until after they've graduated high school, which then must wait its turn in the thousands of eligibility reviews each year, and the 50 or so "extended reviews" each year for new schools.

[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 8:47 AM. Reason : .]

8/22/2012 8:44:03 AM

since he is going to class now, is there any kind of loophole where we rescind his scholarship, he's allowed to play as a walk-on, then we offer him a full scholarship for next year and beyond?

8/22/2012 8:46:05 AM

Can he and his family afford that. are you asking him to take out student loans?

You very rarely hear of kids in rich and famous family paying for college if they get a scholarship. i think worst case now is he redshirts this year, or misses a few games, and finally best case he's cleared to play.

8/22/2012 8:50:46 AM

what would be the benefit of making him walk-on this year?

8/22/2012 8:54:09 AM

i dunno his financial situation, i was just asking if there is some loophole where he would be eligible to play basketball for us this year if he wasn't on scholarship, since it seems this whole accreditation thing only applies to students who have received scholarships

8/22/2012 8:59:18 AM

i just dont understand how if they were reviewing his curriculum...and now he is cleared to go to class. which is basically them saying that his curriculum was acceptable. how did this somehow become a basketball issue?

i never thought that there would be clearance for one without the other. the ncaa has said nothing to insinuate that this was about anything other that the hs being accredited

8/22/2012 10:36:37 AM

State's admissions department has more credibility than the NCAA IMO w/ the track record of the NCAA lately.

8/22/2012 10:49:56 AM

We could make a movie about how a hometown freshman walked on to the team, rose to the starting lineup and lead us to the championship.

8/22/2012 11:11:33 AM

Quote :

" i never thought that there would be clearance for one without the other. the ncaa has said nothing to insinuate that this was about anything other that the hs being accredited"

this is standard procedure for the NCAA. look at past cases.

8/22/2012 12:11:53 PM

It's always a bad sign when other potential recruits are transferring from Upper Room.

8/22/2012 1:29:51 PM

Dezmine Wells kicked out of Xavier for a "sexual incident".

Really hope we go after this guy; it probably wasn't much of anything since Xavier is a Catholic school.

8/22/2012 2:23:07 PM

So, has anyone posted that ESPN Gameday is in Raleigh for the UNC@State game on January 26?

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/acc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/schedule/schedule.pdf

[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 3:09 PM. Reason : x]

8/22/2012 3:08:44 PM

I forgot that I wasn't in the football thread for a second and when I read that I got REALLY excited, but then I saw the date and now I'm a little sad.

[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

8/22/2012 3:12:26 PM

Um, no one will ever give a fuck about UNC-State football. Ever.

This is bigger/better news.

8/22/2012 3:13:06 PM

But basketball ESPN GameDay is a lot more boring.

8/22/2012 3:14:14 PM

Has anyone told NyM410 about this cool feature we have called "Search"?
message_search.aspx?section=2


[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 3:18 PM. Reason : ]

8/22/2012 3:18:11 PM

ACC Schedule Released.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/acc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/schedule/schedule.pdf

8/22/2012 3:26:29 PM

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/082212aab.html

Day Date Opponent Site Time
TV

Fri. Oct. 12 Primetime With The Pack PNC Arena TBA
Sat. Nov. 3 Belmont Abbey (Exh.) PNC Arena TBA
Fri. Nov. 9 Miami (OH) PNC Arena 7 p.m.
Thu. Nov. 15 Penn State% San Juan, Puerto Rico 5 p.m. ESPN2
Fri. Nov. 16 Providence/UMass San Juan, Puerto Rico 5 or 7 p.m. ESPN2/ESPNU/ESPN3
Sun. Nov. 18 TBA San Juan, Puerto Rico TBA ESPN2/ESPNU/ESPN3
Fri. Nov. 23 UNC Asheville PNC Arena TBA
Tue. Nov. 27 Michigan+ Ann Arbor, Mich. 7:30 p.m. ESPN
Tue. Dec. 4 Connecticut# New York, N.Y. 9 p.m. ESPN
Sat. Dec. 8 Cleveland State Reynolds Coliseum TBA
Sat. Dec. 15 Norfolk State PNC Arena TBA
Tue. Dec. 18 Stanford PNC Arena TBA
Sat. Dec. 22 St. Bonaventure PNC Arena TBA
Sat. Dec. 29 Western Michigan PNC Arena TBA
Mon. Dec. 31 UNC Greensboro PNC Arena TBA
Sat. Jan. 5 Boston College Chestnut Hill, Mass. 4 p.m. ESPN2/WatchESPN
Wed. Jan. 9 Georgia Tech PNC Arena 8 p.m. ACCN/ESPN3
Sat. Jan. 12 Duke PNC Arena Noon ESPN/WatchESPN
Wed. Jan. 16 Maryland College Park, Md. 7 p.m. ESPN2/WatchESPN
Sun. Jan. 20 Clemson PNC Arena 6 p.m. ESPNU/WatchESPN
Tue. Jan. 22 Wake Forest Winston-Salem, N.C. 7 p.m. RSN**/ESPN3
Sat. Jan. 26 North Carolina PNC Arena 7 p.m. ESPN/WatchESPN
Tue. Jan. 29 Virginia Charlottesville, Va. 7 p.m. ESPN2/WatchESPN
Sat. Feb. 2 Miami PNC Arena 4 p.m. CBS
Thu. Feb. 7 Duke Durham, N.C. 9 p.m. ACCN/ESPN3
Sun. Feb. 10 Clemson Clemson, S.C. 1 p.m. ACCN/ESPN3
Sat. Feb. 16 Virginia Tech PNC Arena 2 p.m. ESPN/ESPN2/WatchESPN
Tue. Feb. 19 Florida State PNC Arena 7 p.m. ESPN2/WatchESPN
Sat. Feb. 23 North Carolina Chapel Hill, N.C. 4 p.m. ESPN/ESPN2/WatchESPN
Wed. Feb. 27 Boston College PNC Arena 8 p.m. ACCN/ESPN3
Sun. March 3 Georgia Tech Atlanta, Ga. 6 p.m. ESPNU/WatchESPN
Wed. March 6 Wake Forest PNC Arena 9 p.m. ACCN/ESPN3
Sat. March9 Florida State Tallahassee, Fla. 2 p.m. ESPN/ESPN2/WatchESPN
Thu-Sun March 14-17 ACC Tournament Greensboro, N.C. TBA TBA

[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 4:03 PM. Reason : s]

8/22/2012 4:03:11 PM

Quote :

"Mark Armstrong ?@ArmstrongWTVD Told that Upper Room's Tyrek Coger (Missouri commit for 2013) is transferring to Quality Education Academy. Many thers headed to Word of God"

Not a good sign here.

8/22/2012 4:03:16 PM

Sounds like upper room is about to lawyer up

8/22/2012 4:05:39 PM

Quote :

"ACC Sports ?@ACCSports RT @JayJayESPN: I'm hearing that there's a mass exodus of ball players at Upper Room Christian Academy (Raleigh, NC)."

More

8/22/2012 4:11:47 PM

fuuuuuuuuuu

8/22/2012 4:13:02 PM

it's definitely not a good sign. but it doesn't necessarily spell disaster for the purvis situation, either. i'm sure the players at upper room would like to avoid the headache that purvis is going through right now.

8/22/2012 4:26:05 PM

YA BETTER LAWYER UP.

There's no lawyers at ncaa hearings.


Oh, then LAWYER DOWN

8/22/2012 4:38:04 PM

Quote :

"it's definitely not a good sign. but it doesn't necessarily spell disaster for the purvis situation, either. i'm sure the players at upper room would like to avoid the headache that purvis is going through right now."

that's the most optimistic reaction one could have after reading those tweets

8/22/2012 4:42:35 PM

wral has an article up about one basketball player but speculated that more were coming

[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 4:48 PM. Reason : http://www.highschoolot.com/content/story/11456772/]

8/22/2012 4:46:50 PM

Quote :

"Dezmine Wells kicked out of Xavier for a "sexual incident". Really hope we go after this guy; it probably wasn't much of anything since Xavier is a Catholic school."

Quote :

"Mark Armstrong ?@ArmstrongWTVD Also been told by folks who know that Dezmine Wells has been contacted by State, Kentucky and Ohio State"

8/22/2012 4:56:08 PM

Quote :

"i'm sure the players at upper room would like to avoid the headache that purvis is going through right now."

Then why transfer to Quality Education Academy, which has it's own set of issues?

8/22/2012 5:05:57 PM

I will just say that Purvis being cleared to attend class means a lot more than any of these kids transferring.

8/22/2012 5:25:52 PM

Yeah this doesn't necessarily mean anything for purvis and it is a good sign he's allowed in class. Even if the school has issues its possible for purvis to get a waiver on his own merits but all in all its not a good look or a good sign in the long run.

8/22/2012 5:29:19 PM

^^ agreed. purvis being allowed to attend class means he'll definitely play for state. it's just a matter of when.

8/22/2012 5:32:20 PM

man we are just full out making shit up over here.

8/22/2012 6:49:17 PM

^^Unless he sits out this year then goes pro

There's a good chance he never suits up

8/22/2012 6:50:39 PM

^that's right...i wasn't thinking of that (although that would likely be a mistake for him).

and simonn, if you're talking about my post, how is what i said (aside from him going pro as ^ suggested) "full out making shit up"? him being allowed to attend classes means that he is not a non-qualifier and won't have to go to juco. so he may have to sit out a semester or an entire year...he's just waiting to be fully cleared.

someone please correct me if i'm wrong. that's my understanding of the situation.

sure, i suppose purvis could drop out and go overseas for a year before going pro. or he could go pro after sitting out all of this season. maybe i should have said "if purvis plays college ball, it will be for state.

[Edited on August 22, 2012 at 7:13 PM. Reason : d]

8/22/2012 7:10:13 PM

its a little ass backword if purvis cant play after he has already graduated from upper room and they dont get approved. what is he supposed to do then? he should be grandfathered into play and anyone else after his graduating class cant. kinda like you cant get prosecuted for something that become illegal after you do it.

8/22/2012 7:15:07 PM

Quote :

" kinda like you cant get prosecuted for something that become illegal after you do it"

Thanks for clarifying. I wasn't sure what you meant by "grandfathered in".

8/22/2012 9:23:32 PM

Quote :

"Unless he sits out this year then goes pro"

yeah, with no game film past high school, i'm sure he'll be a surefire lottery pick...

8/22/2012 10:12:55 PM